Can we be certain that Jesus Christ was born on December 25th? The Bible gives no exact date for His birth, so why celebrate on a date tied to pagan traditions? 🎄
The first recorded instance of December 25th being celebrated as Christ's birth comes from a Roman calendar in AD 336, long after it was used to celebrate Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (the “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun”). This date is speculated to have origins in ancient Babylon (approx. 2000 BC), marking the birth of Tammuz, and is celebrated after a woman’s typical gestation period following the pagan fertility festival of Easter. By aligning Christ’s birth with this pagan festival, we risk blending the worship of God with sun worship, which the Bible condemns (Romans 1:25).
Let’s also remember the abominable practices described in Ezekiel 8:16-18, where the people were worshipping the sun in God’s temple—an act of rebellion against God. As Ecclesiastes 1:9 reminds us, “There is nothing new under the sun”, and such practices persist even today.
Additionally, Jeremiah 10:2-5 warns against the customs of the nations, such as cutting, fastening in place and decorating trees with silver and gold—practices still reflected in today’s December 25th tradition. This mirrors an ancient pagan ritual that elevates the tree to the status of an idol.
In Deuteronomy 12:29-32, God specifically commands His people not to adopt the worship practices of other nations, emphasizing that worship must align with His word in Bible scripture, not with man-made traditions.
If you love the LORD God, flee from this pagan festival and don’t justify it for the sake of family. Jesus said, “Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me” (Matthew 10:37 ESV).
We are commanded to worship God in spirit and truth. If the world or your family opposes you, rejoice, for your reward in heaven will be great. As they persecuted the prophets, so they will persecute you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you, to Him be the glory, now and forever.
Read my edit and engage with it at least - don't just link me a 500 pager on esotericism and gnosticism. It may be a good read but this is not a book club.
The subject can't be covered with 'casual observance/conversation'.
Like 'Do you believe in physics?' Yes or no?
Not that simple. You want discussions or answers?
The answers are in that book you ignore.
You can summarize an answer if you have understanding of the matter. I don't tell you "go read the Bible" when I'm arguing about Christianity, right?
I asked you a point blank question that can be answered with one paragraph - how is Christ's name related to the sun or the moon? You can at least quote a passage from the book. Also the book itself won't give me an answer about your epistemology and a justification of your worldview.
There is no unified field equation statement except 'God is One/Unity' or 'I Am'.
To understanding how the names were formed. Learn to spell. Gematria Meaning behind symbols, including letters and numbers. Deep subjects called esotericism vs the exoteric 'understanding'.
It's all in there. Feel free to discover it.
I know about gematria and I don't care much for kabbalah or Pythagorean mysteries. My argument is that meaning is not found in names but in the concepts they point to. Names aren't arbitrary too but there isn't some secret numerical code to crack behind language to get to the ultimate meaning. This is reductionism. Meaning and truth is in the Word, who is Christ, the Logos and it is holistic. This is not to say there aren't deliberate codes in some texts like in Revelation and the number of the beast for example. But its a whole other thing to argue language is constructed that way.
It is not 'my' take. I own none of it.