Can we be certain that Jesus Christ was born on December 25th? The Bible gives no exact date for His birth, so why celebrate on a date tied to pagan traditions? 🎄
The first recorded instance of December 25th being celebrated as Christ's birth comes from a Roman calendar in AD 336, long after it was used to celebrate Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (the “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun”). This date is speculated to have origins in ancient Babylon (approx. 2000 BC), marking the birth of Tammuz, and is celebrated after a woman’s typical gestation period following the pagan fertility festival of Easter. By aligning Christ’s birth with this pagan festival, we risk blending the worship of God with sun worship, which the Bible condemns (Romans 1:25).
Let’s also remember the abominable practices described in Ezekiel 8:16-18, where the people were worshipping the sun in God’s temple—an act of rebellion against God. As Ecclesiastes 1:9 reminds us, “There is nothing new under the sun”, and such practices persist even today.
Additionally, Jeremiah 10:2-5 warns against the customs of the nations, such as cutting, fastening in place and decorating trees with silver and gold—practices still reflected in today’s December 25th tradition. This mirrors an ancient pagan ritual that elevates the tree to the status of an idol.
In Deuteronomy 12:29-32, God specifically commands His people not to adopt the worship practices of other nations, emphasizing that worship must align with His word in Bible scripture, not with man-made traditions.
If you love the LORD God, flee from this pagan festival and don’t justify it for the sake of family. Jesus said, “Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me” (Matthew 10:37 ESV).
We are commanded to worship God in spirit and truth. If the world or your family opposes you, rejoice, for your reward in heaven will be great. As they persecuted the prophets, so they will persecute you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you, to Him be the glory, now and forever.
That doesn't tell me much except that there were religions and cults that worshipped the sun and the moon as well as other natural objects. I don't disagree with that. You make a logical leap when you equivocate Christianity to those cults because of some superficial resemblance and your conclusion is arbitrary - it could very well be the case that Christianity is the true religion and all the pagan cults tried to explain God using the world around them and mythologizing the celestial objects. You start with a naturalistic presupposition about what religion is and how it came to be, that it evolved and was not revealed since the beginning of time and that no single religion is entirely true (all presuppositions common in perennialism and comparative religion studies). There's no such thing as neutral ground and all evidence is theory laden and viewed through a paradigm. So why is your paradigm the correct one?
How is Christ's name related to the sun or the moon?
If you Really want the full answer to that, it can be found here.
https://www.scribd.com/document/398575567/230403079-Jesus-Christ-Sun-of-God-Ancient-Cosmology-and-Early-Christian-Symbolism-by-David-R-Fideler-pdf
Read my edit and engage with it at least - don't just link me a 500 pager on esotericism and gnosticism. It may be a good read but this is not a book club.
The subject can't be covered with 'casual observance/conversation'.
Like 'Do you believe in physics?' Yes or no?
Not that simple. You want discussions or answers?
The answers are in that book you ignore.
You can summarize an answer if you have understanding of the matter. I don't tell you "go read the Bible" when I'm arguing about Christianity, right?
I asked you a point blank question that can be answered with one paragraph - how is Christ's name related to the sun or the moon? You can at least quote a passage from the book. Also the book itself won't give me an answer about your epistemology and a justification of your worldview.
It is not 'my' take. I own none of it.