One Nation under Talmud?
(media.conspiracies.win)
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (27)
sorted by:
Funny, the catholic Church emphasized the bindingness of Noahide laws in Acts 15 at the Jerusalem Council.
Maybe the problem is not the laws but who's enforcing them? Maybe Noahides (specifically Gentiles) should get the jump on establishing Noahide courts?
Maybe not killing and not raping are pretty good laws? Seems like not eating the limb of a living animal is a pretty unambiguous law too.
It sounds good on paper and that's how they will sell them at first BUT what's hidden is that it's ultimately JEWISH laws and will be enforced and interpreted by Jews.
According to Jews, non-Jews (Christians) are animals shaped like humans to better serve the Jew... I'd say that can be used as a loophole!
See my other comment. It's no different from Christians saying that in the Millennium we will make, enforce, and interpret the laws, which will ultimately be Christian laws, and non-Christians will be second-rate. That's the eschatology I grew up with, and then I realized it's very similar to Islam or many other religions.
The "animals shaped like humans" view is medieval from the Zohar, and is not "according to Jews" in any official way but is only a tangential theory in mysticism. The actual metaphoric language in rabbinical Judaism is no different from the metaphorical language in the Bible, in Christianity, or in Islam comparing people to animals. Except in Islam it's stronger than the others. Jesus compared the Syrophoenician to a dog, and his disciples to foolish sheep, and the Pharisees to snakes, remember?
There would be a small subgroup of Jews who regard this as a "loophole": and they are no different from every other dehumanization movement out there that makes some Homo sapiens second-class with fewer rights. This dehumanization is not a core teaching of any sincere sect or faith.
I've spent a considerable amount of time reading books by Jews and on Jews and talking to Jews and I beg to differ that Judaism is indeed different from both Islam and Christianity. Now, don't get me wrong. Both have their rats nests but there is a marked difference in the psyche of the Jew than the non-Jew! And it's not just religious but rather a combination of factors.
For a start non-Jews are considered as animals due to the Talmud and not Zohar.
The upbringing of the Jew makes sure the end result is different! All Jews have this "special" attitude to them. And no, it's on a whole different level than Muslims or Christians. It has to do not only with religion but a combination of factors such as genetics, victimhood and having no nation connected to the ground so to speak (Functional group).
I would probably either need to write a small book or record videos to get my point across. A single comment is not going to cut it. Suffice to say that the recent genocide in Gaza have shown that Jews are indeed different. Who else would mock the death of babies and be open about genocide. Not just one or two but almost the entire Jewish Israeli community supported it publicly.
I am well aware that that there are Jews here and there who were raised in America or Europe who are not like this but then according to other religious Jews, they are not considered to be real Jews!
All their holidays seem to be linked to some kind of slaughter.
Then non-Christians are considered as vipers and wolves due to Jesus's words.
You may not have read my comments in your own link, about the later development of this metaphor into literality: "The idea that non-Jews are literally animals shaped as humans is a kabbalistic notion of an arcane branch of Zohar study that is not mainstream at all. Some examples of both ideas appear in my quotes page."
There are differences between movements, yes; but we don't get to invoke the Scotsman fallacy and decide who the "real Jews" are when they argue the question hotly among themselves. The fact is that if one wants to combat the evils in Judaism one must be accurate about what Talmud actually says (link above) and one must criticize the errors that Talmud actually makes, such as superstition and insularity, not pedophilia or mass murder. Therefore I am wide open for accurate data either about Talmud or about Israeli operations today (mocking babies?).
Never heard of that. Do you have a source?
Be warned: SwampRangers is a (AHEM) "Christian" who moderates the porno community and TheQueerClub (Gay Pride) community where his stated agenda is to promote and normalize sex-fetish sin and he bans criticism of child groomers.
He also pretends not to recognize or understand what child pornography or child grooming is.
He is either literally or effectively, jwish.
This. Nobody defends the Talmud unless he is Jewish or is effectively Jewish. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he is a pedo as well.
Pedophilia and child predatory grooming are at the core of the Gay Pride movement and SwampRangers is a raging woke Gay Pride activist.
Pride is a Christian sin, not to mention all of sodomy, trooning, lesbianing and Minor Attracted Personing - "Christian" SwampRangers is all over it like Oprah on a glazed ham.
Filthy.
Umm, Acts 15 (:29) is the source .... "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well." James, Paul, Peter, etc. For doubters it's repeated in identical words in Acts 21:25.
The Noahide laws mean laws that can be inferred from Gen. 1-11 as belonging to Noah and thus to all humanity. All humanity gets to decide what they are. However, the Tosefta, Avodah Zarah 9:4, a second-century work (following the rabbis Jesus interacted with and predating the Talmud), gives the first formal listing: "The sons of Noach were given seven commandments: courts, idolatry, blasphemy, forbidden sexual relations, bloodshed, theft, and consuming the limb of a living animal." The last is the same as strangulation, namely preventing animal abuse. Almost all cultures almost always agree on these basics (C.S. Lewis, Abolition of Man appendix).
Add: I forgot there was an earlier (100s BC) listing in Jubilees 7:24, during the pre-Christ covenantal period prior to rabbinical Judaism, that is analytically comparable but contains further nuances: "To observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity."
The fact that Jews take it seriously to join with humanity in deciding, as a community of equal children of Noah, on the simplest moral law for all, something very similar to the Ten Commandments, is their prerogative as much as that of any other children of Noah. There is no difference between that and any other culture recognizing the difference between the natural law and the local national law.
There is of course a separate current in Judaism about the idea that people who don't accept the Messiah will not get to participate in the Kingdom and will be cast out as a lower, noncitizen class, and as stated it's essentially identical in Christianity and in Islam too.
Remember, rabbis are cagey, and they never put themselves on the hook for the things that people claim they say. When you look into what they believe you find things that are not much different from the triumphalism in other religions.
Acts was written before the Catholic Church even existed.
I asked for a source for the claim that the Catholic Church emphasized the bindingness of Noahide laws in Acts 15 at the Jerusalem Council.
Why do you mention the Catholic Church specifically?
I didn't mention the (Roman) "Catholic" Church. I mentioned the "catholic" (universal) Church. It is called the Greek equivalent, "kath holes", six times in Acts, and once "katholou", both meaning the "all-throughout" church. We the real believers had the "catholic" Church long before the Roman Catholics came along, and we should reclaim that.