on a spherical earth the horizon would appear as a straight line no matter how high up you go, because it curves away from you at the same angle in all directions. This means it would curve out of view at the same distance no matter which direction you look, which from your perspective would look straight and uniform.
Ironically if the earth was flat then a non-uniform horizon would be necessary and documented, because when you go near the edge, the shape of the horizon would take on the shape of the edge instead of having a uniform and consistent horizon everywhere on the planet.
Yes, I expect, and I know, as one goes up, above a sphere, optically, the horizon will descent in your field of view, and you will see it curve. Given the circumference of earth the curve would should be noticeable at sea level, and very obvious from a typical airliner
Why do you think it's logical to say that even though it's looks flat, aka straight line, that it's actually round and curving. You are telling people not to believe their own eyes.
The don't see a curve and you are saying it's there. But it's clearly not.
As elevation increases, based on your Google search of the curvature of earth, at what altitude might you expect to notice the curve with your naked eye?
Because, as far a civilians have taken a camera is looks flat. Flat and straight for Infinity.
The only other images, the only visible proof the earth is a globe, always comes from government.
Institutions funded by government.
Is there any other proof, other than that, the earth is a sphere?
While only 6 ft above the open ocean, your sphere would appear flat. Then, as you go up, the horizon would at first go down a little and curve slightly, then, since we are dealing with exponential curve, would become noticeably a planet by the time you are X number of miles above the surface.
At what elevation would you say, is when you would surely be able to see that it's a sphere and not an egg...where it's clearly a planet?
And, what elevation would you estimate would be where you begin to notice curve? As you increase in elevation you can see farther, so, How far would you need to see to notice a curve?
On the sphere model. You don't need to look these numbers up, they are estimates you can guess on based on the known path of the equator, you can look up curvature rate or calculate the drop, and how much drop would need to happen before you notice....we notice a 6 Story building in the distance, that's pretty tall, so I bet, if the distant horizon was curves down by about 60 feet, a human would notice. Right?
BTW bud... The horizon is absolutely curved and you can see it with your naked eye.
You can observe it's curve by noting that it (the horizon) wraps around you 360 degrees in a perfect circle, and comes back to where it started.
That's one curve you can observe.
Then you will also be able to observe that the circumference of the circle drawn by the horizon increases the higher up you go, and decreases the closer to the ground you are, but is still always perfectly circular...
This shows that the ground is curving downwards away from you in all directions.
Both curves are that of a perfect circle... Each one curving on a different axis both uniform and identical everywhere on the planet.
On flat earth there would HAVE TO be parts of the planet with a non-uniform horizon in order to account for the edges...
And yet there is no evidence of any part of the world where the horizon isn't uniform and identical to everywhere else, and no-one has observed an edge anywhere.
hey, i'm gonna scholl you real quick, but try not to be super offended. you cant teach me, i already know all the shit you would regurgitate. you have to go further.
anway, you do it again with the half logic...
if all shapes have an edge, where is the edge of space? what "shape"is space?
(1)
If you believe space can go for infinity, and you believe space is constantly expanding, then you also would believe that land steches for infinity, if pop science and culture told you to.
So, the land could go forever; thats not a shape. (2)
Also, if it is not known what shape something is, it does NOT mean it does have a shape. that is an unproveable theory, not a rule. (3)
so 3 points, all them cast doubt on your theory you think it a fact, no, not all things have a shape. but i get why you think that, its easy to overlook the aceptions i brough up, even though they are possible acceptions, they are not intuiive and no one would teach you to remember this for a test.
All shapes have edges bud... Every single one... 2D and 3D
those are your bullshit words, proven not true with just a few simple sentences. does that make you want to listen to me? no.
even though you cant explain the anything about flat earth, the points people actually make against the mainstream space and globe belief system we were raised with...anyway, serious question here, how do people explain the sunset on a flat earth? why do we have seasons? do you even know the total basics of the argument?
yet, you believe everthing you think without proof because hwhy would they lie? and how could the lie? valid points, but still a pretty shakey place to hang your hat, imo.
How does one take the venture to discover flat earth proofs and how does one question what they thing is obvious? you just fucking do it, for the throughness of knowing the truth once and for all, because fuck beleiving wehat someone else tell you.
if all shapes have an edge, where is the edge of space? what "shape"is space? (1)
A shape is only a shape because it contrasts with empty space... That's why shapes have edges and empty space does not.
All shapes have edges bud... Every single one... 2D and 3D
those are your bullshit words, proven not true with just a few simple sentences.
Name the shape that has no edge.
anyway, serious question here, how do people explain the sunset on a flat earth?
Like total idiots you imagine the sun hovering above the ground, held up by nothing, and circling around nothing, with nothing to power it's movement, in a system where gravity doesn't exist.
Speaking of that... The scientific theory of gravity NECESSITATES spherical planets and stars, and also correctly predicts their motion relative to each other.
And the flat earth explanation of "density" is so laughably dumb it can be dismantled in 2 points. And unlike you, when I say I can dismantle an argument, I actually do it.
1.) The flat earth idea of "density" only posits an assumption that things of differing densities will move apart relative to each other, but it doesn't even attempt to explain how or why they always move in a single cardinal direction relative to the ground, or how such a cardinal direction became established in the first place. Gravity can and does explain that.
2.) The "experiments" flat earthers do to try and demonstrate their idea of density like the oil and water mixture actually demonstrate gravity, because those same experiments don't work in space. The liquids wont even stay in the tub. They will float around in the air..
The idea of "density" posits that it's the relative properties of oil and water that keeps everything in the bucket and causes them to separate.
But their relative properties are not changed by being 300 miles up in the sky... And yet going that high will cause all the liquids to float around in the air with no sense of up or down.
3.) (BONUS POINT).... The flat earth idea of density would mean the sun would fall out of the sky since the sun (which is full of energy producing material) is denser than the air, and denser than the empty space above that. So your model of how the sun rises and sets is in direct contradiction with your model that explains how objects fall to the ground.
gravity is little a, in every equation. you can just replace acceration and done., no need for a gravity.
its not a force, its not provable, not viewable, and everything about objects moving up and down in the media, we call air, which is like very thin water, is explained by boyancy and electrostatics, the magnetic preference of objects to fall down to the ground. way above your pay grade still. you beleieve in grabity. got a long way to go to get out of this, but your first mistake is thinking you are teaching...you cant learn that way.
oh yeah, and i already names space as not having a shape. there is one. open space, doesnt have an end, so, it cannot be shape. like infinity land. that would also have no shape. but you beleive in space, because you have been told to beleive in space. not any other reason. and that means you cant imagine that space is not real. you cant image those little dots of light at night, are just little dots. because you have been told what they are.
last thing, you must watch too many flat earth psy op channels, I am not a flat earther, i dont know any. i just call out bad theory. and the heliocentric model, cant hold up to math or scientific method.
but do you realize how much rides on this decpetion? if the earth isnt a globe, what is the place? and ifs not a globe, then its not in space...then is the earth really billions of years old? that begs a new question, how did we get placed here, and who is outside of these walls.
all crazy talk to the brainwashed mind. good luck. try listening
I stopped reading when you claimed you can see it with the naked eye.
Also, video shows it's flat horizon. It's not just "not high enough" because of you do the math, then you would also know the curve should be easily visible from 120k feet
What is funny disconnect in your reasoning is, how could we see the curve from the surface or low elevation, and not see it from 25 miles up?
Do you know the rate of curvature even? How do you reconcile all the laser tests that confirm with math and science that the surface does not curve?
You don't understand. If the laser is off by an inch, it's ok.
Because of the earth was curves, it would be off by almost 8 inches in the first mile.
Being accurate to 1/1000 degree is not necessary to prove the earth doesn't curve
I'm flown in a real, actual, physical plane and I observed very clearly a curved, real, actual, physical globe, and the windows were really, actually, and physically not fish-eye. Cruising altitude was 37,000 feet and even there it was obvious.
no, you didnt. the windows are concave, and you just told yourself you see the curve. or they are not concave, and its just you reaching and lying to yourself.
have you ever thought to find ouy what the curve should be? did you know, that if you are 37,000 feet up, that your range of sight increases to 427 miles?
further more, if you do the trig, or go to any earth curve caluculator, you would find that over a distance of 427 miles, the earth curves 22 miles, or 121,000 feet....so, not just a little bit like you told yourself. Thus, proving that if the world was a ball, then the curve would be REALLY FUCKING noticable from a jetliner. AND the video i posted, would show even more curve, but its flat. dont deny because you dont want to admit
Look, the experiment is so simple. If the earth doesn't curve, the the laser stays at same level, and it does. There is no amount of gymnastics that can justify that.
The video is called, are you believing a lie. It's not a flat earth video. It's just thinking about your perspective, introspectively
Thanks for admitting that paid shills not only exist, but that they’re on this specific website and post well poisoning all the time. You’re dismissed. The discussion is over.
Thanks for admitting that this submission is the definition of spam, too.
they exist, but you made no effort and showed no reasoning to assume me, or any of them, are here. its just your ego thinking you are more important than you are.
on a spherical earth the horizon would appear as a straight line no matter how high up you go, because it curves away from you at the same angle in all directions. This means it would curve out of view at the same distance no matter which direction you look, which from your perspective would look straight and uniform.
Ironically if the earth was flat then a non-uniform horizon would be necessary and documented, because when you go near the edge, the shape of the horizon would take on the shape of the edge instead of having a uniform and consistent horizon everywhere on the planet.
Lol, you made a silly assumption and you are totally wrong about a sphere appearing flat as you increase elevation.
Literally nothing could be further from the truth as you totally got this backwards.
As you increase view above a sphere the curve becomes more apparent.
On an infinite plane, where land never ends, as you increase, the horizon will always rise, no matter how high you go.
This is exactly as we observe
I didn't say it appears flat... I said the horizon appears as a straight line...
It still would not appear flat because you could see it curving away from you in all directions...
What you're expecting to see, the horizon bending in an arc right to left, needs an egg shaped earth.
Flat horizon is same thing.
Yes, I expect, and I know, as one goes up, above a sphere, optically, the horizon will descent in your field of view, and you will see it curve. Given the circumference of earth the curve would should be noticeable at sea level, and very obvious from a typical airliner
Why do you think it's logical to say that even though it's looks flat, aka straight line, that it's actually round and curving. You are telling people not to believe their own eyes.
The don't see a curve and you are saying it's there. But it's clearly not.
As elevation increases, based on your Google search of the curvature of earth, at what altitude might you expect to notice the curve with your naked eye?
Because, as far a civilians have taken a camera is looks flat. Flat and straight for Infinity.
The only other images, the only visible proof the earth is a globe, always comes from government. Institutions funded by government.
Is there any other proof, other than that, the earth is a sphere?
Tell me one other shape besides a sphere that appears identical no matter which location or angle its viewed from?
A sphere does not fit that definition.
While only 6 ft above the open ocean, your sphere would appear flat. Then, as you go up, the horizon would at first go down a little and curve slightly, then, since we are dealing with exponential curve, would become noticeably a planet by the time you are X number of miles above the surface.
At what elevation would you say, is when you would surely be able to see that it's a sphere and not an egg...where it's clearly a planet?
And, what elevation would you estimate would be where you begin to notice curve? As you increase in elevation you can see farther, so, How far would you need to see to notice a curve?
On the sphere model. You don't need to look these numbers up, they are estimates you can guess on based on the known path of the equator, you can look up curvature rate or calculate the drop, and how much drop would need to happen before you notice....we notice a 6 Story building in the distance, that's pretty tall, so I bet, if the distant horizon was curves down by about 60 feet, a human would notice. Right?
What do you think?
What shape is the earth?
Its not a globe because it would need to curve. if it doesnt curve, it cant be in space becaise a flat planet would be impossible, so space is fake.
NASA was started by a bunch of kzarian cabal pedos, so thats why everyone in brazil says space is fake and gay.
BTW bud... The horizon is absolutely curved and you can see it with your naked eye.
You can observe it's curve by noting that it (the horizon) wraps around you 360 degrees in a perfect circle, and comes back to where it started.
That's one curve you can observe.
Then you will also be able to observe that the circumference of the circle drawn by the horizon increases the higher up you go, and decreases the closer to the ground you are, but is still always perfectly circular...
This shows that the ground is curving downwards away from you in all directions.
Both curves are that of a perfect circle... Each one curving on a different axis both uniform and identical everywhere on the planet.
On flat earth there would HAVE TO be parts of the planet with a non-uniform horizon in order to account for the edges...
And yet there is no evidence of any part of the world where the horizon isn't uniform and identical to everywhere else, and no-one has observed an edge anywhere.
Btw, why do you believe flat earth would have an edge? You believe that flat earthers think there is a disc floating in space?
Wow, I forget how easy it is to trick people. Flat earth is a psy op, no doubt. Ask yourself why.
You don't prove flat earth, you disprove the globe theory. But it doesn't mean you know what shape the earth is, or if there is an edge.
You have to apply math, logic, reasoning and most of all, deprogram.
It's a fools belief that flat earthers are stupid, it's the other way around. Are you surprised?
All shapes have edges bud... Every single one... 2D and 3D.
You're just proving more and more how ridiculous your ideas are if you're going to tell me you believe in an edgeless shape.
hey, i'm gonna scholl you real quick, but try not to be super offended. you cant teach me, i already know all the shit you would regurgitate. you have to go further.
anway, you do it again with the half logic...
if all shapes have an edge, where is the edge of space? what "shape"is space? (1)
If you believe space can go for infinity, and you believe space is constantly expanding, then you also would believe that land steches for infinity, if pop science and culture told you to.
So, the land could go forever; thats not a shape. (2)
Also, if it is not known what shape something is, it does NOT mean it does have a shape. that is an unproveable theory, not a rule. (3)
so 3 points, all them cast doubt on your theory you think it a fact, no, not all things have a shape. but i get why you think that, its easy to overlook the aceptions i brough up, even though they are possible acceptions, they are not intuiive and no one would teach you to remember this for a test.
those are your bullshit words, proven not true with just a few simple sentences. does that make you want to listen to me? no.
even though you cant explain the anything about flat earth, the points people actually make against the mainstream space and globe belief system we were raised with...anyway, serious question here, how do people explain the sunset on a flat earth? why do we have seasons? do you even know the total basics of the argument?
yet, you believe everthing you think without proof because hwhy would they lie? and how could the lie? valid points, but still a pretty shakey place to hang your hat, imo.
How does one take the venture to discover flat earth proofs and how does one question what they thing is obvious? you just fucking do it, for the throughness of knowing the truth once and for all, because fuck beleiving wehat someone else tell you.
A shape is only a shape because it contrasts with empty space... That's why shapes have edges and empty space does not.
Name the shape that has no edge.
Like total idiots you imagine the sun hovering above the ground, held up by nothing, and circling around nothing, with nothing to power it's movement, in a system where gravity doesn't exist.
Speaking of that... The scientific theory of gravity NECESSITATES spherical planets and stars, and also correctly predicts their motion relative to each other.
And the flat earth explanation of "density" is so laughably dumb it can be dismantled in 2 points. And unlike you, when I say I can dismantle an argument, I actually do it.
1.) The flat earth idea of "density" only posits an assumption that things of differing densities will move apart relative to each other, but it doesn't even attempt to explain how or why they always move in a single cardinal direction relative to the ground, or how such a cardinal direction became established in the first place. Gravity can and does explain that.
2.) The "experiments" flat earthers do to try and demonstrate their idea of density like the oil and water mixture actually demonstrate gravity, because those same experiments don't work in space. The liquids wont even stay in the tub. They will float around in the air..
The idea of "density" posits that it's the relative properties of oil and water that keeps everything in the bucket and causes them to separate.
But their relative properties are not changed by being 300 miles up in the sky... And yet going that high will cause all the liquids to float around in the air with no sense of up or down.
3.) (BONUS POINT).... The flat earth idea of density would mean the sun would fall out of the sky since the sun (which is full of energy producing material) is denser than the air, and denser than the empty space above that. So your model of how the sun rises and sets is in direct contradiction with your model that explains how objects fall to the ground.
oh jeez, this is mess.
gravity is little a, in every equation. you can just replace acceration and done., no need for a gravity.
its not a force, its not provable, not viewable, and everything about objects moving up and down in the media, we call air, which is like very thin water, is explained by boyancy and electrostatics, the magnetic preference of objects to fall down to the ground. way above your pay grade still. you beleieve in grabity. got a long way to go to get out of this, but your first mistake is thinking you are teaching...you cant learn that way.
oh yeah, and i already names space as not having a shape. there is one. open space, doesnt have an end, so, it cannot be shape. like infinity land. that would also have no shape. but you beleive in space, because you have been told to beleive in space. not any other reason. and that means you cant imagine that space is not real. you cant image those little dots of light at night, are just little dots. because you have been told what they are.
last thing, you must watch too many flat earth psy op channels, I am not a flat earther, i dont know any. i just call out bad theory. and the heliocentric model, cant hold up to math or scientific method.
but do you realize how much rides on this decpetion? if the earth isnt a globe, what is the place? and ifs not a globe, then its not in space...then is the earth really billions of years old? that begs a new question, how did we get placed here, and who is outside of these walls.
all crazy talk to the brainwashed mind. good luck. try listening
I stopped reading when you claimed you can see it with the naked eye.
Also, video shows it's flat horizon. It's not just "not high enough" because of you do the math, then you would also know the curve should be easily visible from 120k feet
What is funny disconnect in your reasoning is, how could we see the curve from the surface or low elevation, and not see it from 25 miles up?
Do you know the rate of curvature even? How do you reconcile all the laser tests that confirm with math and science that the surface does not curve?
You don't understand. If the laser is off by an inch, it's ok.
Because of the earth was curves, it would be off by almost 8 inches in the first mile.
Being accurate to 1/1000 degree is not necessary to prove the earth doesn't curve
I'm flown in a real, actual, physical plane and I observed very clearly a curved, real, actual, physical globe, and the windows were really, actually, and physically not fish-eye. Cruising altitude was 37,000 feet and even there it was obvious.
no, you didnt. the windows are concave, and you just told yourself you see the curve. or they are not concave, and its just you reaching and lying to yourself.
have you ever thought to find ouy what the curve should be? did you know, that if you are 37,000 feet up, that your range of sight increases to 427 miles?
further more, if you do the trig, or go to any earth curve caluculator, you would find that over a distance of 427 miles, the earth curves 22 miles, or 121,000 feet....so, not just a little bit like you told yourself. Thus, proving that if the world was a ball, then the curve would be REALLY FUCKING noticable from a jetliner. AND the video i posted, would show even more curve, but its flat. dont deny because you dont want to admit
If only your physics knowledge was from a more reputable source than Bugs Bunny.
If you tried.
Look, the experiment is so simple. If the earth doesn't curve, the the laser stays at same level, and it does. There is no amount of gymnastics that can justify that.
The video is called, are you believing a lie. It's not a flat earth video. It's just thinking about your perspective, introspectively
If anyone wants to provide video evidence of the globe, like video from space, showing the curve, then I show you this. Showing no curve
So, which is it? And how do you know your not part of another mass psycosis?
Congratulations on being a paid jewish shill.
Your bat shit theory about paid shills lacks evidence. Your speculation is based on personal bias, not actual logic.
You're just a stubborn fag who got stuck on the flat earth psy op
Go to hell, retard.
Said the literal flat earther.
That's a link, not evidence of anything at all. Just a link.
And, you're too retarded to know what I am. Flat earth is not what I support. You have no fucking clue what a default argument is
Thanks for admitting that paid shills not only exist, but that they’re on this specific website and post well poisoning all the time. You’re dismissed. The discussion is over.
Thanks for admitting that this submission is the definition of spam, too.
they exist, but you made no effort and showed no reasoning to assume me, or any of them, are here. its just your ego thinking you are more important than you are.
thanks for being so easy to best
Thanks for admitting you lied. Fuck off, flattie.