No. They made raids stealing and enslaving people in that regions, but never had any control over that territories. They never reached Kiev that was capital of Russia at the time, and there was no any Kazakhstan at all at the time.
No. Russia didn't exist at that time. The earliest mention of a Russian khaganate was in 9th c. and at that time Kiev was within Khazar territory (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Early_Rus.png). I know Kazakhstan didn't exist at the time, I was obviously referencing the territories of today. The Khazarian raids went much further than Kiev and at their height they controlled most of modern day Ukraine (and much more).
It is still unknown if locals who was under control of Jewish elite allowed to practicise Jewdaism. Taking in account that Jews does not allow goyims to study Talmud, I think that star of David symbols on khazarian shields was just a signs of their masters, not symbols of faith of shields owners.
Khazarian elite turned into pure Jews within several generations. But their subjects was not Jews. Really, number of Jews in Khazarian Kaganate hardly was significant.
What jewish elite? The ruling dynasty converted to judaism - they were the elite. They studied judaism and adopted jewish culture, names and rituals. Synagogues were built for the purpose so yes, khazarian subjects also practiced judaism to some extent.
Their origin is Babylon-Egypt-Judea Jewish tribes. They track their Jewish bloodlines carefully, by maternity line. So there is zero chance that some locals from Khazaria somehow sneaked into Jewish population. You need Jewish mother who gave you birth to be accepted as Jew. All that thing about ghiyur (many think it is a rithual to become a Jew) is that it only make you Judaic, but for Jews you will never be accounted as a Jew. Just a goyim who was allowed to study Thalmud and practicise Judaism and not be punished for that.
Tell that to the khazarians who had no jewish lineage but converted to judaism. That's why the Bible calls them false jews. They are not jewish in blood obviously.
All that modern European Jews are ancestors of those Old Testament Jews, just Jews track their ancestry by maternity line. That is why they could differ a lot, like Sephards and Ashkenazi, but all of them still keep that Jewish genetic material from Jewish women X chromosome.
Apparently not, because they're khazarians, meaning they are converted jews intermingled with a some real jews. That's why they don't the DNA tests in Israel. Their names are jewish, their traditions are jewish but they are not jews.
Using pedowikia as source of historic knowledge is worse than eating fake WEF meat.
Russia as state is traced at least from year 3099 from Creation ( 2409 B.C.) when brother Dukes Sloven and Rus established town of Slovensk (now Novgorod) as capital of Rus. And it is just first documented occurence in ancient written sources, and who knows how far that really goes into the past, especially taking in account fact that people live here since paleolite.
Around 1100 years ago Russia just become empire, and that does not mean that there was no Russian statehood earlier.
Just some little educational lecture for arrogant and ignorant European.
I know Kazakhstan didn't exist at the time
Nothern Kazakhstan become part of modern Kazakhstan only in Soviet times. Before that it was Russia. It was mostly uninhabited steppes really, East to Volga river with rare Russian outposts, built to prevent raids of nomadic tribes. But they was established long after Khazarian Kaganate destruction.
What jewish elite? The ruling dynasty converted to judaism - they were the elite.
Jews who flee from Judea from Romans or whatever, settled in Khazarian state and began to put their daughters and wives under the men from Khazar elite. (Jews did it since the beginning of time and massively do it today as well) Their children born by Jewish mothers was already 100% Jews and inherit Khazarian power from their fathers.
They studied judaism and adopted jewish culture, names and rituals.
If you are not aware, it is not allowed for goyim to study judaism. It is one of the first talmudic rule that become core of modern Talmud. There is no way that Khazar etnicities was allowed to do that. Only after replacement with Jews, Khazarian elite began to practicise judaism, because they was already Jews. Then they began to build their sinagogues and Khazaria become Kaganate, because state become leaded by top Jewish priest - kagan (cohen, kogan, cogen... - many Jews have that surnames). Only since then Khazaria become Khazarian Kaganate.
they're khazarians
There is no such etnicity as "khazarian". Like there is no etnicity as "american". It is not etnicity, it is citizenship. Khazarian Kaganate was multiethnic state, with Jews as elite and many other local tribes as slaves and serves. In the best case you could speak about "Khazarian Jews", just like you speak about "Americal Jews" or any other Jews. And this means they are Jews ethnically, not some "khazarians" or "americans".
This trick with replacement of etnicity with citizenship works only for Western population. That absolutely does not work even with Eastern Europeans who speak slavic languages. There is clear distinction between ethnicity and citizenship, and different words with different meanings used to describe one or another. F.e. English adjective "Russian" have no any real sense in Russian language, since it does not differentiate etnicity from citizenship. We have two distinct words - "Russkiy" and "Rossiyanin" to describe etnicity and citizenship. Same with most East European languages. It is just laughable to read some titles in Western MSM like "Russian oligarch Abramovich". He is not Russian, he is Jewish, he just have Russian citizenship (along with few others), and that does not make him Russian.
With that disgusting trick Western people start to forget their true roots, their ethnic pride and history, turning from people with ancestry into faceless citizens. And aslo this trick allow different aliens, including Jews sneak and dissolve ethnicity of European people. Pity.
You could continue to play that disgusting game, but this will not make Jews someone else. Jews was Jews, is Jews and will be Jews, whatever names you will try to push. They will always be the same Jews as in Old Testament.
Russia as state is traced at least from year 3099 from Creation ( 2409 B.C.) when brother Dukes Sloven and Rus established town of Slovensk (now Novgorod) as capital of Rus. And it is just first documented occurence in ancient written sources, and who knows how far that really goes into the past, especially taking in account fact that people live here since paleolite.
Around 1100 years ago Russia just become empire, and that does not mean that there was no Russian statehood earlier.
If you are not aware, it is not allowed for goyim to study judaism. It is one of the first talmudic rule that become core of modern Talmud. There is no way that Khazar etnicities was allowed to do that. Only after replacement with Jews, Khazarian elite began to practicise judaism, because they was already Jews.
Have you heard of messianic jews? Was Bulan and his heirs jewish or did he convert? I know the rule but since we have a historic jewish kingdom that's not made up of jews apparently it was disregarded.
Then they began to build their sinagogues and Khazaria become Kaganate, because state become leaded by top Jewish priest - kagan (cohen, kogan, cogen... - many Jews have that surnames). Only since then Khazaria become Khazarian Kaganate.
Khazaria was established as khaganate initially. All turkic tribes were ruled by khans and they had zero connection to judaism - they were pagans, practicing mostly tangrism. My country was a khaganate before it was Christianized, so no, the word khan has nothing to do with the jewish cohen which means "priest". Here's the meaning:
khan (n.) title of sovereign princes in Tatar counties, c. 1400, from Turkic, literally "lord, prince," contraction of khaqan "ruler, sovereign."
What is this, free dance interpretation class? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously with such bs?
There is no such etnicity as "khazarian". Like there is no etnicity as "american". It is not etnicity, it is citizenship. Khazarian Kaganate was multiethnic state, with Jews as elite and many other local tribes as slaves and serves. In the best case you could speak about "Khazarian Jews", just like you speak about "Americal Jews" or any other Jews. And this means they are Jews ethnically, not some "khazarians" or "americans".
Again, khazarian doesn't refer to ethnicity but to origin and as a way to delineate khazarian false jews from the Biblical jews and their bloodlines.
You could continue to play that disgusting game, but this will not make Jews someone else. Jews was Jews, is Jews and will be Jews, whatever names you will try to push. They will always be the same Jews as in Old Testament.
I'm sorry the truth doesn't sit well with your delusions. I'm not pushing anything and the reason of the post is strictly historic and I'm trying not to let any bias in. I have problems with both Biblical Christ-killing jews as well as false ashkenazi jews but that's not the point of the post.
Ancient Russian text named "Сказание о Словене и Русе и граде Словенске".
Many Russian historians, including Lomonosov and Tatischev started Russian history from Slovensk foundation. Of course, Western/Jewish historians could not allow such version of history, that is why you hardly find any mention of Slovensk in Western literature. But Persian and Turkish historians confirm that town of Slovensk existed as noticeable point of interest long before Christ. And other Russian towns too. There is also mentions of Gardarika state with center at Slovensk/Novgorod position in ancient Scandinavian legends. Gardarika means "country of towns".
Have you heard of messianic jews?
Where they are? Show me Jews who openly and willingly share their Thalmudic knowledge with goyim.
There is still no any exact and unredacted translation of Thalmud to some european language - what messianism you are talking about?
In USSR was relatively active kind of Jewish sect with goal of spreding judaism, but only among ethnic Jews who for whatever reason (f.e. orphans or those who accepted communist ideology being young) abandon or was not teached judaism.
Khazaria was established as khaganate initially
No. Khazaria initally had khan, not kagan as top leader. It was Khazarian Khanstvo, as many other Middle Asian states. "Khan" and "kagan" are different worlds with different roots from different languages. Jewish "kagan" have nothing to do with "khan". There was numerous "khanstvo"'s around Russia, but only few "Kaganate"'s - Khazarian Kaganate, Uighur Kaganate and Kimak Kaganate.
That modern mixing of "khan" and "kagan" is pure fantasies of all that Jewish "historians" who are rewriting real history already for a long time for their benefit. It is just another Jewish chutzpa, nothing more.
khazarian false jews
There can't be "fake jews". Either they are Jews by blood of maternity line, either they are not Jews at all. You can't just declare yourself as Jew, that does not work even on the West like it work with gender, race or whatever. To be a Jew is absolutely not enough to declare yourself a Jew and/or practicise judaism. The approval and acceptance of other Jews is absolutely necessary.
Jews often declare themselves as belongin to other etnicities, but this does not mean it will work other way.
I'm sorry the truth doesn't sit well with your delusions.
Well, somebody tricked into believing that "khan" and "kagan" are same word, and spreading Jewish chutzpa about "bad fake jews" is talking about delusions. :) Fascinating.
No. Khazaria initally had khan, not kagan as top leader. It was Khazarian Khanstvo, as many other Middle Asian states. "Khan" and "kagan" are different worlds with different roots from different languages. Jewish "kagan" have nothing to do with "khan". There was numerous "khanstvo"'s around Russia, but only few "Kaganate"'s - Khazarian Kaganate, Uighur Kaganate and Kimak Kaganate.
That modern mixing of "khan" and "kagan" is pure fantasies of all that Jewish "historians" who are rewriting real history already for a long time for their benefit. It is just another Jewish chutzpa, nothing more.
Sure. So all that's false and made up by all historians (not just western):
Khagan or Qaghan (Mongolian:ᠬᠠᠭᠠᠨ; Khaan or Khagan; Old Turkic: 𐰴𐰍𐰣 Kaɣan)[a] is a title of imperial rank in Turkic, Mongolic, and some other languages, equal to the status of emperor and someone who rules a khaganate (empire).[1] The female equivalent is Khatun.
It may also be translated as "Khan of Khans", equivalent to King of Kings. In Bulgarian, the title became known as Khan,[b] while in modern Turkic, the title became Khaan with the g sound becoming almost silent[c] or non-existent; the ğ in modern Turkish Kağan is also silent. Since the division of the Mongol Empire, monarchs of the Yuan dynasty and the Northern Yuan held the title of Khagan. Kağan, Hakan and Kaan, Turkish equivalents of the title are common Turkish names in Turkey.
Never mind there are Byzantine and Chinese references to that word long before the Khazar Khaganate was judaized. Are they all falsified? What's the benefit behind this ingenious move when no one knows it was a jewish title? Can you prove the jewish origin of the title?
There can't be "fake jews". Either they are Jews by blood of maternity line, either they are not Jews at all. You can't just declare yourself as Jew, that does not work even on the West like it work with gender, race or whatever. To be a Jew is absolutely not enough to declare yourself a Jew and/or practicise judaism. The approval and acceptance of other Jews is absolutely necessary.
Jews often declare themselves as belongin to other etnicities, but this does not mean it will work other way.
So you get it - they are no damn jews (in the Biblical sense), that's the whole point. They couldn't be, until they did it back in 9th c. They adopted judaism as a religion without having jewish blood. That's why Revelation calls them false jews. How hard of a concept is this? Do you have another take on Rev 3:9? Can you give me an example of what being a "false jew" and "those who say that are jews but are not" would entail?
No. Russia didn't exist at that time. The earliest mention of a Russian khaganate was in 9th c. and at that time Kiev was within Khazar territory (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Early_Rus.png). I know Kazakhstan didn't exist at the time, I was obviously referencing the territories of today. The Khazarian raids went much further than Kiev and at their height they controlled most of modern day Ukraine (and much more).
What jewish elite? The ruling dynasty converted to judaism - they were the elite. They studied judaism and adopted jewish culture, names and rituals. Synagogues were built for the purpose so yes, khazarian subjects also practiced judaism to some extent.
Tell that to the khazarians who had no jewish lineage but converted to judaism. That's why the Bible calls them false jews. They are not jewish in blood obviously.
Apparently not, because they're khazarians, meaning they are converted jews intermingled with a some real jews. That's why they don't the DNA tests in Israel. Their names are jewish, their traditions are jewish but they are not jews.
Using pedowikia as source of historic knowledge is worse than eating fake WEF meat.
Russia as state is traced at least from year 3099 from Creation ( 2409 B.C.) when brother Dukes Sloven and Rus established town of Slovensk (now Novgorod) as capital of Rus. And it is just first documented occurence in ancient written sources, and who knows how far that really goes into the past, especially taking in account fact that people live here since paleolite.
Around 1100 years ago Russia just become empire, and that does not mean that there was no Russian statehood earlier.
Just some little educational lecture for arrogant and ignorant European.
Nothern Kazakhstan become part of modern Kazakhstan only in Soviet times. Before that it was Russia. It was mostly uninhabited steppes really, East to Volga river with rare Russian outposts, built to prevent raids of nomadic tribes. But they was established long after Khazarian Kaganate destruction.
Jews who flee from Judea from Romans or whatever, settled in Khazarian state and began to put their daughters and wives under the men from Khazar elite. (Jews did it since the beginning of time and massively do it today as well) Their children born by Jewish mothers was already 100% Jews and inherit Khazarian power from their fathers.
If you are not aware, it is not allowed for goyim to study judaism. It is one of the first talmudic rule that become core of modern Talmud. There is no way that Khazar etnicities was allowed to do that. Only after replacement with Jews, Khazarian elite began to practicise judaism, because they was already Jews. Then they began to build their sinagogues and Khazaria become Kaganate, because state become leaded by top Jewish priest - kagan (cohen, kogan, cogen... - many Jews have that surnames). Only since then Khazaria become Khazarian Kaganate.
There is no such etnicity as "khazarian". Like there is no etnicity as "american". It is not etnicity, it is citizenship. Khazarian Kaganate was multiethnic state, with Jews as elite and many other local tribes as slaves and serves. In the best case you could speak about "Khazarian Jews", just like you speak about "Americal Jews" or any other Jews. And this means they are Jews ethnically, not some "khazarians" or "americans".
This trick with replacement of etnicity with citizenship works only for Western population. That absolutely does not work even with Eastern Europeans who speak slavic languages. There is clear distinction between ethnicity and citizenship, and different words with different meanings used to describe one or another. F.e. English adjective "Russian" have no any real sense in Russian language, since it does not differentiate etnicity from citizenship. We have two distinct words - "Russkiy" and "Rossiyanin" to describe etnicity and citizenship. Same with most East European languages. It is just laughable to read some titles in Western MSM like "Russian oligarch Abramovich". He is not Russian, he is Jewish, he just have Russian citizenship (along with few others), and that does not make him Russian.
With that disgusting trick Western people start to forget their true roots, their ethnic pride and history, turning from people with ancestry into faceless citizens. And aslo this trick allow different aliens, including Jews sneak and dissolve ethnicity of European people. Pity.
You could continue to play that disgusting game, but this will not make Jews someone else. Jews was Jews, is Jews and will be Jews, whatever names you will try to push. They will always be the same Jews as in Old Testament.
Cope and a genetic fallacy. See the link of the post which is not wikipedia.
Or better yet, is Princeton publishing good enough for you? https://archive.org/details/dunlop-d.-m.-the-history-of-the-jewish-khazars/page/n1/mode/2up
Any source on that bizarre claim?
Here's what I found:
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191736636.timeline.0001
Have you heard of messianic jews? Was Bulan and his heirs jewish or did he convert? I know the rule but since we have a historic jewish kingdom that's not made up of jews apparently it was disregarded.
Khazaria was established as khaganate initially. All turkic tribes were ruled by khans and they had zero connection to judaism - they were pagans, practicing mostly tangrism. My country was a khaganate before it was Christianized, so no, the word khan has nothing to do with the jewish cohen which means "priest". Here's the meaning:
What is this, free dance interpretation class? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously with such bs?
Again, khazarian doesn't refer to ethnicity but to origin and as a way to delineate khazarian false jews from the Biblical jews and their bloodlines.
I'm sorry the truth doesn't sit well with your delusions. I'm not pushing anything and the reason of the post is strictly historic and I'm trying not to let any bias in. I have problems with both Biblical Christ-killing jews as well as false ashkenazi jews but that's not the point of the post.
Ancient Russian text named "Сказание о Словене и Русе и граде Словенске".
Many Russian historians, including Lomonosov and Tatischev started Russian history from Slovensk foundation. Of course, Western/Jewish historians could not allow such version of history, that is why you hardly find any mention of Slovensk in Western literature. But Persian and Turkish historians confirm that town of Slovensk existed as noticeable point of interest long before Christ. And other Russian towns too. There is also mentions of Gardarika state with center at Slovensk/Novgorod position in ancient Scandinavian legends. Gardarika means "country of towns".
Where they are? Show me Jews who openly and willingly share their Thalmudic knowledge with goyim.
There is still no any exact and unredacted translation of Thalmud to some european language - what messianism you are talking about?
In USSR was relatively active kind of Jewish sect with goal of spreding judaism, but only among ethnic Jews who for whatever reason (f.e. orphans or those who accepted communist ideology being young) abandon or was not teached judaism.
No. Khazaria initally had khan, not kagan as top leader. It was Khazarian Khanstvo, as many other Middle Asian states. "Khan" and "kagan" are different worlds with different roots from different languages. Jewish "kagan" have nothing to do with "khan". There was numerous "khanstvo"'s around Russia, but only few "Kaganate"'s - Khazarian Kaganate, Uighur Kaganate and Kimak Kaganate.
That modern mixing of "khan" and "kagan" is pure fantasies of all that Jewish "historians" who are rewriting real history already for a long time for their benefit. It is just another Jewish chutzpa, nothing more.
There can't be "fake jews". Either they are Jews by blood of maternity line, either they are not Jews at all. You can't just declare yourself as Jew, that does not work even on the West like it work with gender, race or whatever. To be a Jew is absolutely not enough to declare yourself a Jew and/or practicise judaism. The approval and acceptance of other Jews is absolutely necessary.
Jews often declare themselves as belongin to other etnicities, but this does not mean it will work other way.
Well, somebody tricked into believing that "khan" and "kagan" are same word, and spreading Jewish chutzpa about "bad fake jews" is talking about delusions. :) Fascinating.
Sure. So all that's false and made up by all historians (not just western):
Never mind there are Byzantine and Chinese references to that word long before the Khazar Khaganate was judaized. Are they all falsified? What's the benefit behind this ingenious move when no one knows it was a jewish title? Can you prove the jewish origin of the title?
So you get it - they are no damn jews (in the Biblical sense), that's the whole point. They couldn't be, until they did it back in 9th c. They adopted judaism as a religion without having jewish blood. That's why Revelation calls them false jews. How hard of a concept is this? Do you have another take on Rev 3:9? Can you give me an example of what being a "false jew" and "those who say that are jews but are not" would entail?