The whole "so they couldn't read it themselves" is blatant anti-Catholic bs. A single bible would take years to produce, and cost the equivalent of a house today. They were chained to keep them safe from theft.
In AD 1 most people in Europe could read at least some Latin or Greek, but by AD 1000 almost nobody could read. A few monks in Ireland kept learning alive.
Literacy was well established in early 18th century England, when books geared towards children became far more common. Near the end of the century, as many as 50 were printed every year in major cities around England.
Yea, thats why I think its neat my ancestors were reading/writing as early as 1580. Something the royal family and churches did not want people doing. Because of "fake news" and all that.
Wouldn't you assume that the newly established Church would want its devotees to immerse themselves in the sanctioned New Testament, especially since the Church went to great lengths to eliminate competing Gospels? And wouldn't the best way of spreading the "good news" be to ensure that every Christian had direct access to the Bible?
That's not what happened. The Church actually discouraged the populace from reading the Bible on their own -- a policy that intensified through the Middle Ages and later, with the addition of a prohibition forbidding translation of the Bible into native languages.
Wrong. The Protestant Reformation wasn't organic. Luther and Calvin BOTH had (((backers))), and it was in many ways a power (and gold) grab. Heretical movements have been fomented by antichristian enemies for millenia. And sadly, the susceptible took the bait. Now they have lie and cope, like you're doing.
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven and earth, changed his name from Simon to Petros (which means rock), then proceeded to say on this rock He would build His Church. Then at the end of John, Jesus foretells Peter's future, which involves him being in a leadership role, and throughout Acts the apostles all look to Peter as leader.
I mean the issue continues today, like why is the primary traditional mass latin still? It’s a dead language. I really appreciate the orthodox mindset of always focusing on translating the texts to make them accessible and preserving the ancient liturgies in the language the community prefers.
Using a "dead" language is based. The meaning cannot change. For example, if someone in the 1800s said "Let's go outside and be gay and fruitful", it would hold an entirely different meaning today, despite using the exact same words. Latin never changes. It's solid.
Using a language they typically don’t understand is a contributing factor to making people feel alienated by the Roman Catholic Church back during the Protestant reformation and it continues today.
The Lord is the author of all languages, from Babel till today. The Old Testament was in Hebrew, the New Testament was written in Greek our Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. We are called to make disciples of all nations/ethnos. Does that mean we should teach them all Latin and require intensive education from them experience traditional worship? Nah translate the texts and liturgy for everyone. Christ is risen!
The whole "so they couldn't read it themselves" is blatant anti-Catholic bs. A single bible would take years to produce, and cost the equivalent of a house today. They were chained to keep them safe from theft.
That is true, before the Guttenberg Press monks and priests would take years copying and illustrating copies of the bible.
In AD 1 most people in Europe could read at least some Latin or Greek, but by AD 1000 almost nobody could read. A few monks in Ireland kept learning alive.
Yea, thats why I think its neat my ancestors were reading/writing as early as 1580. Something the royal family and churches did not want people doing. Because of "fake news" and all that.
https://archive.is/20230821175306/https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545
If what you said was true there would be no Protestants.
Catholics are pagans who perverted Christianity in order to control people.
Wrong. The Protestant Reformation wasn't organic. Luther and Calvin BOTH had (((backers))), and it was in many ways a power (and gold) grab. Heretical movements have been fomented by antichristian enemies for millenia. And sadly, the susceptible took the bait. Now they have lie and cope, like you're doing.
Well, at least we see their fruits now.
Pure projection about lying and coping.
There is no evidence in the Bible that supports the papacy.
You can’t present any logical reasoning so you jump to fallacious attacks on character and projections.
Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven and earth, changed his name from Simon to Petros (which means rock), then proceeded to say on this rock He would build His Church. Then at the end of John, Jesus foretells Peter's future, which involves him being in a leadership role, and throughout Acts the apostles all look to Peter as leader.
Protestantism only took place after the invention of the printing press.
Once the common man could read it the Jesuits had to discredit it, enter the heliocentric cosmology fraud.
Jesuits Erased The Flat Earth
https://odysee.com/@stpierrs:f/video_2023-11-11_21-46-05:c
I mean the issue continues today, like why is the primary traditional mass latin still? It’s a dead language. I really appreciate the orthodox mindset of always focusing on translating the texts to make them accessible and preserving the ancient liturgies in the language the community prefers.
Using a "dead" language is based. The meaning cannot change. For example, if someone in the 1800s said "Let's go outside and be gay and fruitful", it would hold an entirely different meaning today, despite using the exact same words. Latin never changes. It's solid.
Using a language they typically don’t understand is a contributing factor to making people feel alienated by the Roman Catholic Church back during the Protestant reformation and it continues today.
The Lord is the author of all languages, from Babel till today. The Old Testament was in Hebrew, the New Testament was written in Greek our Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. We are called to make disciples of all nations/ethnos. Does that mean we should teach them all Latin and require intensive education from them experience traditional worship? Nah translate the texts and liturgy for everyone. Christ is risen!