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What's the worst that could happen (files.catbox.moe)
posted 1 year ago by dukey 1 year ago by dukey +39 / -1
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– AreYouSirius 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sold my waterfront condo to a couple moving to Portland from D.C. in 2020. To them, the murder rates were probably “meh.”

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer -1 points 1 year ago +1 / -2

It does suck getting preferential treatment just because you were born a certain color, huh. Dang.

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Lmao you triggered boomer faggot! Everyone hates you!

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

throws dreidel

Nice try

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I bet you are pretty high up in the organization. I have no doubts

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Is it so hard to provide context for numbers?

What's it? Musrders per year? Per montth? Per week? Per 10k? Or may be per 1M

Who is the victims? Is it regular citizens who suffer from crime or may be it is unhinged gangs start to kill each other?

Numbers and plots without units and context are mostly useless, even if it is number of murders. Enough to provoke "feelings" for whatever reason, but not enough for something thoughtful.

The most disturbing thing is that during coronahoax we was fed a lot with same numbers and plots without units and context. After that, at least here, on that forum, people should perfectly know importance of units and context. But somehow I still see exactly same thing like I saw about coronahoax, just about some other thing.

How fuck is that?

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– SaltyJollyRoger 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sequence of years on the x-axis suggests each data point is a total of known murders to happen in that year. This is corroborated by the black line that marks an average of 23 deaths per year from 2000 to 2019.

Label at the top of the graph indicates the victims should be classified as residents of Portland (probably both legal and criminal). It's possible that the numbers could be inflated by guesswork about the number of residents in '22 and '23, but without a source it's impossible to say for certain.

I understand your confusion. Often times data is intentionally presented in a way that makes it difficult to interpret meaningfully, and it takes considerable effort to train oneself to put it together coherently.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

So it is absolute number of murders per year for the whole town with around half-million inhabitants. That's something, thank you.

Questions remains about victims categories and Portland area (and so accounted population) changes.

Then, if categories and town area didn't change since 2019, then that's definitely sign of some severe shit happening in Portland.

I understand your confusion. Often times data is intentionally presented in a way that makes it difficult to interpret meaningfully, and it takes considerable effort to train oneself to put it together coherently.

Looks like some culture in presenting and spreading data is lost completely. That's sad, really.

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– ImmortalAl 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

This post is pro-criminalization of drugs, and for-profit prisons, which I disagree with.

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

What fucking absolute psychopaths would downvote your comment on a conspiracy website?

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– vpnsurfer -3 points 1 year ago +2 / -5

why don't you show 2023?

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– dukey [S] 5 points 1 year ago +6 / -1

According to Google the figure was 74 for 2023

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– vpnsurfer -4 points 1 year ago +2 / -6

so, defunding the police, decriminalizing drugs and stopping people in jail lowered the murders by about 25% in 2023?

if the answer is no then your original premise must be false.

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– dukey [S] 4 points 1 year ago +5 / -1

The defund the police movement started in 2020 after George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl.

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– vpnsurfer -3 points 1 year ago +2 / -5

Did you actually read anything I wrote? If all these things you list make murders go up, then why the dramatic drop in 2023?

Were any of the things you list even implemented in Portland?

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– dukey [S] 5 points 1 year ago +6 / -1

Are you serious? 74 is still triple the long term average. Numbers fluctuate every year regardless ... and yes .. it's been widely reported on

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12866483/portland-residents-leave-city-police-homelessness-crime-robot.html

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– vpnsurfer -4 points 1 year ago +2 / -6

So what exactly is your explanation for the 25% drop in 2023?

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– dukey [S] 4 points 1 year ago +5 / -1

Does it even need an explanation? The murder rate isn't constant. Look at 2015-2016, a much bigger swing in the numbers in % terms.

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