Zelda has been slowly becoming more woke I fear and that this could just be them sowing confusion across all directions.
The Zelda platform IMO shows the signs of 'safe' boundaries which are just woke enough that they pass but not necessarily so woke as to offend fans too much.
The Mario movie was funny, but it did suffer from a few woke points, however it maintained the core of franchise and managed to incorporate all the different references to games throughout its life from beginning to more recent so I found that callback was well done and the experience was overall fun. It would have been a bit better if they have stuck true to Peach being less over powered at the beginning where she was captured and brought her character up through the film like a Shrek reimagined as opposed to the opposite being that Mario was the one who has to grow while peach was upgraded at the beginning.
At least with Shrek the reveal is done much more of a humorous way that the convention is allowed to somewhat go as we expect, and then diverge after we would normally expect it. These new films are not so much about surprising the viewer any more, and instead seem to just focus on establishing the message from the get go and then drilling it into the viewers forehead throughout the duration of the movie despite all storytelling elements explicitly saying to do anything but that....
But in the Mario movie Peach had been living in that world for her whole life so it's natural she'd be more skilled at that point, it would be weird if she had to build herself up or for some reason concealed her ability as they were going to go to war
Mario still had the hero's journey, which is what made it good. It was also funny. They will make Zelda girl boss somehow, but in the end, the PCs play Link, and he has to be the hero. Wait until they make a Metroid movie I suppose for power level 9000 girl boss.
funnily enough, Zelda actually is in the most literal sense a girl and a boss. ever since ocarina of time, she's been a character who helps link a lot either working in the background or straight up saving him.
I just really hope they don't give her these snarky girl boss attitude, because that would really only work for tetra in wind waker. most of the rest of the time, younger Zelda is usually whimsical and adventurous, but older Zelda is usually firm and collected. neither of these are helped by snarky girl boss.
To some extent. But she grew into that role, over the years. Which does not make her a 'girl boss' but a person with her own arch, acting as a sidekick. Her Hero's journey is best held off for movie 2 or 3, not movie 1. Movie 1 is for Links 'hero's journey' exclusively.
honestly, I disagree. Zelda series is different from others in that there is not necessarily an arc for the characters between games, with the exception of direct sequels like Majora's Mask and tears of the Kingdom. each game is a new incarnation of the same character, with slight differences to fit that world.
As the tech and budget for the zelda series improved, Zelda gained more personality, but I wouldn't really attribute it to a character arc.
There is a meta arc. There might not be much there, but she is more of a side kick or partner, and not a Mary Sue or a Girl Boss. She has her own motivations in saving the kingdom.
Apparently ESG funders are attempting to sabotage the movie, by claiming it's woke, even if it ends up not being.
Zelda has been slowly becoming more woke I fear and that this could just be them sowing confusion across all directions.
The Zelda platform IMO shows the signs of 'safe' boundaries which are just woke enough that they pass but not necessarily so woke as to offend fans too much.
The Mario movie was funny, but it did suffer from a few woke points, however it maintained the core of franchise and managed to incorporate all the different references to games throughout its life from beginning to more recent so I found that callback was well done and the experience was overall fun. It would have been a bit better if they have stuck true to Peach being less over powered at the beginning where she was captured and brought her character up through the film like a Shrek reimagined as opposed to the opposite being that Mario was the one who has to grow while peach was upgraded at the beginning.
At least with Shrek the reveal is done much more of a humorous way that the convention is allowed to somewhat go as we expect, and then diverge after we would normally expect it. These new films are not so much about surprising the viewer any more, and instead seem to just focus on establishing the message from the get go and then drilling it into the viewers forehead throughout the duration of the movie despite all storytelling elements explicitly saying to do anything but that....
But in the Mario movie Peach had been living in that world for her whole life so it's natural she'd be more skilled at that point, it would be weird if she had to build herself up or for some reason concealed her ability as they were going to go to war
they did girlboss peach, and that movie sold like hotcakes. I highly doubt they would course correct.
Mario still had the hero's journey, which is what made it good. It was also funny. They will make Zelda girl boss somehow, but in the end, the PCs play Link, and he has to be the hero. Wait until they make a Metroid movie I suppose for power level 9000 girl boss.
funnily enough, Zelda actually is in the most literal sense a girl and a boss. ever since ocarina of time, she's been a character who helps link a lot either working in the background or straight up saving him.
I just really hope they don't give her these snarky girl boss attitude, because that would really only work for tetra in wind waker. most of the rest of the time, younger Zelda is usually whimsical and adventurous, but older Zelda is usually firm and collected. neither of these are helped by snarky girl boss.
Good points, I can't disagree.
To some extent. But she grew into that role, over the years. Which does not make her a 'girl boss' but a person with her own arch, acting as a sidekick. Her Hero's journey is best held off for movie 2 or 3, not movie 1. Movie 1 is for Links 'hero's journey' exclusively.
honestly, I disagree. Zelda series is different from others in that there is not necessarily an arc for the characters between games, with the exception of direct sequels like Majora's Mask and tears of the Kingdom. each game is a new incarnation of the same character, with slight differences to fit that world.
As the tech and budget for the zelda series improved, Zelda gained more personality, but I wouldn't really attribute it to a character arc.
There is a meta arc. There might not be much there, but she is more of a side kick or partner, and not a Mary Sue or a Girl Boss. She has her own motivations in saving the kingdom.