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"Flat earths are so retarded, muh scientism has it all figured out" - Reminder space is fake and we've all been lied to. (media.scored.co)
posted 2 years ago by BladesLastBottle 2 years ago by BladesLastBottle +11 / -12
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– Modeler43 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Better quit the internet.

No need! The issue has only occurred with you in all my years on the internet. Other people are much more respectful.

Captchas

That's not what this is. I'm referring to a conversation, not a check to see if I am a human logging into my own bank account.

Which means you will necessarily fail there too.

Unless I were human, then the Turing test wouldn't apply. That has yet to be determined, because we haven't tried that medium yet.

Your inability to infer implicit answers (another complex function bots cannot perform) is not an example of my dishonesty.

I agree! But your dishonesty is an example of your dishonesty.

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Other people are much more respectful.

You are free to feel disrespected anytime you encounter a captcha or any other bot detection method online. But it's foolish. No disrespect is intended - either by those captchas or by me.

That's not what this is.

That's where you are wrong. Bot detection is bot detection. Mine is a bit more sophisticated, but they have an almost identical purpose.

Unless I were human, then the Turing test wouldn't apply.

The turing test would apply to anything being tested with it, obviously. Though i agree that, if you are human, whatever its results - they certainly couldn't establish that you are a machine.

But your dishonesty is an example of your dishonesty.

But your last accusation of dishonesty was literally an example of your difficulty inferring an answer. Can you provide (quote/cite/link) any actual examples of "my dishonesty" or were you just spewing purely hypothetical tautology?

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– Modeler43 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You are free to feel disrespected anytime you encounter a captcha or any other bot detection method online

I don't feel disrespected by that though. I feel disrespected when you, another person, is repeatedly declaring that I must be a bot when I'm attempting to have an honest discussion.

but they have an almost identical purpose.

They do not.

The turing test would apply to anything being tested with it, obviously.

Incorrect. The Turing test is specifically designed to see if machines are exhibiting intelligence on par with human behavior. It is not designed to be tested on humans, because however a human acts would be human behavior.

Can you provide (quote/cite/link) any actual examples of "my dishonesty"

I have already done that. Please refer back to earlier parts of our conversation and the answer will be made clear to you.

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't feel disrespected by that though.

Good. When you are accused of being a bot, either through captcha or any other bot detection method - there is no reason or use in being offended at the accusation.

is repeatedly declaring that I must be a bot when I'm attempting to have an honest discussion.

Please cite/quote this declaration. You seem to be seeing/reading things that aren't there, and are being needlessly sensitive. I tend to use verbiage like "likely" and "bot like". As we agree, it is somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible to determine with absolute certainty (in this scenario, anyhow) that you (or I) are a bot - so declarations to that effect would be silly.

They do not.

Bot detection is bot detection - no matter the method, and no matter wether the determination made by that detection method is correct or not. For example - humans fail captchas all the time and that necessarily increases the chances that they are a bot (from the bot detector's perspective) You have exhibited many bot like tendencies which continues to increase the chance that you are one. No need to take any offense at it. Just stop exhibiting those behaviors as best you can.

Incorrect

Don't act like a child if you can help it. Obviously a person can be tested with such a turing test, and you are in this scenario (and others).

I have already done that.

Yes, and like the last baseless accusation i have refuted and dismissed them without contest from you. That means you agree that i have not been dishonest, and are simply pissy about it :( Unless you can quote/cite a particular "lie" that i have not already refuted and dismissed, you should stop lying about "my dishonesty" - as this is another common troll/shill/bot tactic.

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– Modeler43 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

When you are accused of being a bot, either through captcha or any other bot detection method - there is no reason or use in being offended at the accusation.

Make no mistake, I'm not offended, I just sense your disrespect.

I find it disrespectful when I'm attempting to have a rational conversation with someone and they repeatedly accuse me of "likely" being a bot as a way of discrediting me/my points in a conversation I am trying to be respectful in.

As we agree, it is somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible to determine with absolute certainty (in this scenario, anyhow) that you (or I) are a bot

We do not agree on this.

You have exhibited many bot like tendencies which continues to increase the chance that you are one.

Then the most logical solution would be to move to a medium where we can be more confident in the nature of the other person. Otherwise, giving likelihood to such a silly scenario is just disrespectful to the topic at hand as well as the conversation partner.

I'm not offended by any means, but that doesn't mean I need to tolerate disrespect. If I see it, I will call it out. I only have so much patience.

Obviously a person can be tested with such a turing test

Again, no. A Turing test is one that is administered to machine to test the functionality of the machine. It is not one that is administered to human beings.

Unless you can quote/cite a particular "lie" that i have not already refuted and dismissed, you should stop lying about "my dishonesty"

Again, I have already done that. If you review earlier in the conversation, I made specific reference to your previous dishonesty

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