News like this, shows what?
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This is part of the new narrative: "Ukraine is hopeless; we've tried".
You can see many examples of this, and there is discussion about this changed narrative.
Peace talks, but there will be, no, peace. Just talks saying nothing else. I don't think, peace, yet. Although who knows, what to think? However the narrative plays, what's its. Off/On. When needed.
I think there's fatigue. A lack of popularity and some concern. Autumn and Winter approaches. All those tanks and assault vehicles won't do much in wet ground. Unless they've kept big consignments of troops back. They will sooner be operating more defensively. Even holding back to counter from a better flank perhaps if overrunning opposing attacks. But what do I know, I don't. More is probaby based on ifs and nots. Funding, more arms and aid, like new tanks, missiles, jets, enemy, and positions. Tactically Ukraine haven't punched through.
Suddenly ah but peace while gearing and inciting.
No, it's far too soon for that. It's still committed. Significantly there are sighs. Like campaigning will obviously use it when running. Especially when it hasn't bought much. But who knows???
Sorry, but you really have not been paying attention:
This is the current situation. While cycling new recruits through the front line, not using any conscripts, and largely relying on a they-did-well but rag-tag private army, this is how things currently are. Attacks this week in * Western* Ukraine, most of the major electricity systems destroyed (Ukraine has (I mean, 'had') an electric rail system - now, moving tanks 1000km to the front lines is effectively impossible. Hence the tiny new tank deployments - 300 tanks are being lost each month), large concentrations of troops near Odessa. Open land to the east of Kiev, and see here https://liveuamap.com/ for the large Russian buildup behind the borders to the north of Kiev. Russian doesn't even want Ukraine.
Anyway, this is the current situation. Note the troops to the north of Kiev. Just waiting for the Ukrainian collapse:
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/12august2023_Ukraine_map.jpg
Russia had been building that force for months now. Apparently 100k troops with tanks and artillery and carriers. It hasn't done much with them yet. Will it?
It's also playing a longer game. If this happens then that.
You're speculating. Russia doesn't want Ukraine. It has integrated parts of the Ukraine already. They are Russian. If it didn't want Ukraine? I mean what about that. It's simply it hasn't taken more, not for better trying.
Odessa could take years to seige. If it's still an objective. That's part of the problem. There isn't an objective. What is it. Defend parts. What parts. Attack parts which parts. Ukraine kill Russians objectively. Russia is now defensive and still making slow offensive ground in Donetsk.
Most recent reports Ukrainian propaganda was it was opening beaches along Odessa for the public/Summer. Not much has been happening along that front since the grain was diverted. It is still under bombardment but not as sustained since Kherson.
Will Russia retake Kharkiv and Sumy, and surround Kiev? Nope not this year.
Who knows what happens and who cares.
No. It has taken the parts of Ukraine that are Russian speaking and that want to be part of Russia. Putin, as a spokesman for Russia, has said many times that he/Russia does not want parts of the former Ukraine that do not want to be part of Russia. Now, it is possible that Russia will drive across Ukraine to the Polish border. But those parts of Ukraine will either return to Poland or become part of a Rump Ukraine, but Russia will has said that it will not incorporate them.
Odessa is Russian speaking and could - and should - be part of Russia. Ukraine is over. Ukraine is the same NATO success as Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Whatever is left of Ukraine, a Rump or partitioned, and neutral, will not be part of NATO. Hopefully NATO will be destroyed: NATO is pure evil.
Well, off the top of my head: The bridges to Moldova have been destroyed, eliminating any chance of land support from NATO; the ports' storage facilities have been destroyed; supported, dug in, Russian troops are behind defensive lines about 40 km from Odessa.
Russia is engaging in a process that will be added to the textbooks of war. Behind multiple defensive lines they are actively inviting attacks that result in the deaths of 100s or 1000's of attackers. The preservation of Russian soldiers' lives, on the other hand, is paramount. This is the controlled demolition of the Ukrainian army (== population). Zelensky's (i.e. NATO's) public abandonment this week of gang-pressing probably means USA cannon fodder will be imported. I don't think that any European country's population is stupid enough to sacrifice itself. So Team USA it is.
I kindof agree. In the future we will see, the reality. Speculation is pointless.
Why are you going over old posts. Why are you replying to posts 2 weeks old.
You're a nigger faggot stalker. Look at that. How did you find the topic, and why?
I am definately a nigger faggot stalker. Also, my tone was off: why was I so negative and aggressive? You were just making conversation.
My bad.
I only browse these sites (voat, poal, *.win) one day a week . . . so 7 days later .