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On a flat earth, the sun would be small and move either closer or further away from an observer as day and seasons progress. If that is the case, why does the sun appear to be always the same size?
posted 2 years ago by Eisenhorn 2 years ago by Eisenhorn +4 / -8

Another question that the Flat Earthers cannot explain.

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– Nadaisreal 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The size of the sun could change and we would not know, since we don't look at it.

Its interesting that the moon and the sun are the same exact size on eclipse day. Odds of that happening?

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– ReturnOfShillSlayer 0 points 2 years ago +3 / -3

The odds of every great mathematician and physicist of the past few centuries being wrong and a handful of intellectually stunted internet retards being right?

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– freedomlogic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I was relearning blender the other day. And learning a bit about lights and how they work again.

In blender when you create/edit your light there are two main options.

Power and radius.

Power does what you think it does.

Radius basically effects how diffuse your shadows are (how dark/sharp/light/soft they should be).

In the newer donut tutorial he talks about how when your lights are real close to your meshes, just the distance between one side of your mesh, to the other side/end can affect how the shadows look. Which can be solved by moving the light further away and making it stronger and adding fill and rim lighting.

Anyway, the largest buildings on earth dont have this problem, because the sun is so far away as well as being so incredibly bright. It lights from a disk, not a point as well.

Little things like this is why I believe the earth is round.

After learning about quaternions again, I cant help but think about multiple dimensions.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-universe-a-giant-loop/

https://www.storyofmathematics.com/hypersphere/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ruHJFsb4g

I have no doubt we are being lied to about the nature of our reality. But I dont think flat earth is the key shattering idea people think it is.

I like this one better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z73uXPBUT7o

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– XharlesDucken 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I've seen quite a few videos where they do show it elongating as it reaches the horizon. They are just random videos made by non-flat-earthers, but the flat-earthers have used them to show the size change. I've been meaning to test this myself out of curiosity. You can't really believe anything you see online, so it's best to test everything yourself.

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– XharlesDucken 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Of course, even if the sun did change in size near the horizon, you have to make exceptions for atmospheric lensing.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"read this book"

"Watch this video"

What don't you have any arguments on your own?

Why can't you explain anything by yourself?

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

There aren’t really any flat earthers. You are operating under a misconception. They are largely products and/or agents of a psyop.

The answer is, it doesn’t stay the same size. The sun does change (apparent) size during the day and over the course of the year. Wether the world is flat or spherical has no bearing on that. All things that recede appear to shrink (assuming no magnification/distortion in the way that obscures that optical law)

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– Eisenhorn [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Has anyone observed and measured the sun changing size? How would that even work?

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– Eisenhorn [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

https://rumble.com/v1cqedz-proof-that-the-sun-does-change-size-throughout-the-day.html

Is that a joke? Some shitty smartphone video and some MS Paint lines?

You think that is convincing?

Videos

That all you have, right? Some videos.

No actual measurements and proper documentation.

Nothing of substance.

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Has anyone observed and measured the sun changing size?

Yes.

It’s important to recognize that we are talking about apparent size change (though in the standard view of the sun being a star powered by fusion - the sun does change actual size as well)

The apparent size of the sun changes due to refraction/diffraction (typically at sunrise/sunset) as well as distance to us (typically over a yearly period, though obviously it is changing distance over the day too - so its apparent size is also changing daily even if we currently lack the precision to detect such a change)

How would that even work?

Often it is done with an ND filter (to get rid of the glare and only measure the sun) and a photodetector (ccd/camera etc.).

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes

Do you have any documentation?

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Sure, but i would make you a less capable student - and risk further biasing you - if i spoonfed it to you.

Do you honestly doubt that the things which recede from us appear to shrink in size as a result? Do you honestly doubt that distortion caused by the air and things in it can (and does) affect the apparent size of the sun? Do you honestly believe that the sun is NOT changing distance from us (i.e. the observer) over the course of the day and/or year?

If the answer to all the above is, “No” - as i expect it ought to be ... then you don’t really need any “supporting documentation” in any case. Right?

Anyway, have you tried looking for such measurements already and failed to find them? Where have you looked, and what have you been looking for (search terms / etc.)?

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Sure, but i would make you a less capable student - and risk further biasing you - if i spoonfed it to you.

What a pathetically lame excuse.

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

It’s just the way it is.

If i spoonfeed you the answer, i make you weak and bias you towards MY answers.

I want you to be a better student, not a worse one. You need to learn to fish for yourself, and to know - acutely - why you must.

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