Does FE have a way to determine astronomical principles like precession, the celestial equator, and the ecliptic? It seems to me that the round earth theory came about to explain all of the various astronomical principles that line up mathematically.
As in, you see a lot of explanations with FE that have to do with the curvature of the earth and stuff, but do they have an explanation as to how all of that fits into larger astronomical phenomena that are predictable, for example the 25,772 year precession cycle?
It seems to me that both flat earth and globe earth are trying to figure out models where tangible phenomena like that would make plausible sense but I’ve never seen a FE explanation of something like precession or why the celestial equator exists.
I never said I found the globe earth theory fully convincing either, but I’d also postulate that our current globe theory isn’t the same as older globe earth theories, so regarding your gif, yes I do think that doesn’t make sense, but that’s also our current model that is influenced by societies like NASA, and to me that’s just one theory in a litany of theories, just like flat earth is.
To say something like “if globe theory is wrong then so is precession and you gotta throw everything out with it” is disingenuous. Precession by a quick Wikipedia search was discovered, although incidentally, in the 2nd century BC. And ancient astronomers have historically been seen to get their astronomy knowledge from older civilizations like the Babylonians, so we’re talking a lot of time and a lot of astronomers to get to where we’re at. And most of that knowledge happened before the internet where people actually had to write papers and justify their theories with mathematics and real explanations.
Now, they may have believed in a geocentric universe too while also having plausible theories on precession and the celestial equator, I’m not an expert, I just wanted to know if FE had plausible explanations about this stuff.
As to “have a really dug deep?”, I’ve watched documentaries about it, nothing that I’d say I’ve retained super well. I find it interesting but I also just think it’s another theory, not law. So the idea that we’re being lied to about globe earth? Sure, I think that’s possible. But do I think that means FE is the only alternate explanation? No.
I’d probably be more inclined to seek the wisdom of ancient astronomers than internet people who get all worked up as if I’m a retard for not giving my entire life to FE. It’s just one of many different things to look into and it’s not one I care about at the moment beyond “huh I’ll watch this internet documentary” maybe once every 2 years.
What difference does it make if the earth is flat or a globe? We all know we are being told lies about almost everything. It's a waste of time to entertain
Flat earth theories are not very welcomed on this forum.
But count me as someone always interested in any evidence or theories you have or improvements to your model.
The problem with most globe theorists is that they spend too much time mocking flat earthers instead of providing their own evidence for their own model. Flat earthers have usually done more of their own research and experiments whereas globe theorists accepted the general narrative without enough scrutiny and examination.
I do not claim to know who is right or who is wrong. I do consider it important, though.
You are being pretty disingenuous to the guy, did you read what he wrote? Or just go off on your flat earth belief tirade?
So, given your entire response is basically a regurgitated bloated way to re-ask his very question I will do the same.
Given the world is so corrupted and lies are the dominant form of information regarding history or science, what makes flat earth an appealing consideration to even bother with when so much of the bullshit in everyday life is already just as full of lies as your belief system?
FE is an observation, you can determine without a doubt by your own observations and you dont need to believe anyone. its not a belief system.
This is incorrect, what you mean to say is:
FE is an observation, you can determine without a doubt by your own assumptions the observations are what you believe them to be, therefore it is a belief system.
The rest of what you wrote neither responds to my question nor does it respond to the question of the poster, perhaps you need to load the entire thread, I think you are mixing conversations.
The bottom line is you have no rational logic to apply when it comes to an explanation of why the belief of flat earth has any merit given the situations in life today.
Based and flatpilled
Does FE have a way to determine astronomical principles like precession, the celestial equator, and the ecliptic? It seems to me that the round earth theory came about to explain all of the various astronomical principles that line up mathematically.
As in, you see a lot of explanations with FE that have to do with the curvature of the earth and stuff, but do they have an explanation as to how all of that fits into larger astronomical phenomena that are predictable, for example the 25,772 year precession cycle?
It seems to me that both flat earth and globe earth are trying to figure out models where tangible phenomena like that would make plausible sense but I’ve never seen a FE explanation of something like precession or why the celestial equator exists.
I never said I found the globe earth theory fully convincing either, but I’d also postulate that our current globe theory isn’t the same as older globe earth theories, so regarding your gif, yes I do think that doesn’t make sense, but that’s also our current model that is influenced by societies like NASA, and to me that’s just one theory in a litany of theories, just like flat earth is.
To say something like “if globe theory is wrong then so is precession and you gotta throw everything out with it” is disingenuous. Precession by a quick Wikipedia search was discovered, although incidentally, in the 2nd century BC. And ancient astronomers have historically been seen to get their astronomy knowledge from older civilizations like the Babylonians, so we’re talking a lot of time and a lot of astronomers to get to where we’re at. And most of that knowledge happened before the internet where people actually had to write papers and justify their theories with mathematics and real explanations.
Now, they may have believed in a geocentric universe too while also having plausible theories on precession and the celestial equator, I’m not an expert, I just wanted to know if FE had plausible explanations about this stuff.
As to “have a really dug deep?”, I’ve watched documentaries about it, nothing that I’d say I’ve retained super well. I find it interesting but I also just think it’s another theory, not law. So the idea that we’re being lied to about globe earth? Sure, I think that’s possible. But do I think that means FE is the only alternate explanation? No.
I’d probably be more inclined to seek the wisdom of ancient astronomers than internet people who get all worked up as if I’m a retard for not giving my entire life to FE. It’s just one of many different things to look into and it’s not one I care about at the moment beyond “huh I’ll watch this internet documentary” maybe once every 2 years.
The people in the discord assured me that FE is a government psyop when I got banned from the #1 FE discord for saying that FE is another psyop.
I know for fact the planet has people on it that believe in some shit they cant even tangibly prove to themselves.
It's a spheroid.
Yep once you take the red pill you can never really go back
What difference does it make if the earth is flat or a globe? We all know we are being told lies about almost everything. It's a waste of time to entertain
Flat earth theories are not very welcomed on this forum.
But count me as someone always interested in any evidence or theories you have or improvements to your model.
The problem with most globe theorists is that they spend too much time mocking flat earthers instead of providing their own evidence for their own model. Flat earthers have usually done more of their own research and experiments whereas globe theorists accepted the general narrative without enough scrutiny and examination.
I do not claim to know who is right or who is wrong. I do consider it important, though.
You are being pretty disingenuous to the guy, did you read what he wrote? Or just go off on your flat earth belief tirade?
So, given your entire response is basically a regurgitated bloated way to re-ask his very question I will do the same.
Well said
This is incorrect, what you mean to say is:
The rest of what you wrote neither responds to my question nor does it respond to the question of the poster, perhaps you need to load the entire thread, I think you are mixing conversations.
The bottom line is you have no rational logic to apply when it comes to an explanation of why the belief of flat earth has any merit given the situations in life today.
More ridiculous leftism, this is a pattern of belief I am not sure how you do not recognize that.
You refuse to answer the question, and ignore my assertion of fact.
You have been demoted.