Just speculating, but a medicine doesn't have to work for it to be adopted as the norm. See remdisivir. Which not only didn't work but was actually deadly. OR AZT. A loose correlation (provided by a study commissioned the manufacturer), and no bad side-effects would probably be enough to have a medicine be declared as the permanent standard of care for a particular illness these days. Medicine/Allopathy has been quite corrupt for many decades, and I guess that could include animal medicine.
That's a good point. The kennel cough vaccine may not even work.
I know the rabies and 1st set of short is just a money grab. The 1st set is admittedly only protection for a few week or month until the 2nd shot. If a puppy / dog is old enough for the second shot then they just skip the first. So it was never necessary.
The rabies is BS is a bunch of different ways. One, because it probably lasts 5_10 years, not this yearly schedule they have.
And secondly because even if you have kept up with your yearly rabies shots, they still tell you to go pay for another shot if exposure to a rabid animal occurs. Which means that there is time after exposure to get the shot.... And that there is doubt that the yearly shots work?
Anyway, it is a business. Heart guard is just ivermectin and it is actually extremely expensive at the vets.... You could get a lifetime supply of generic ivermectin for your dogs heartworm for like 40 bucks.
I had a great vet when I lived in Reno. I don't remember how it happened but we started discussing vaccines (2013-ish). I told her that I didn't want any for my old lady cat because she was an indoor cat (that was always my 'excuse' with vets to get them to quit harassing me about it). She said she never recommends vaccines for any reason.
She said she saw so many animals get sick, so many die shortly after vaccination. She said she was trained to give vaccines in a leg in case something went wrong so that they could amputate.
Since she was safe to talk to, I talked to her about my vaccine injuries and we both just went off on it all.
It's all a scam. None of it works like they say. I have changed vets because they were pressuring vaccines - I actually had one say he wouldn't fix my kitten because I refused to vaccinate him for the cat version of kennel cough. I changed vets immediately and my new vet has never even brought them up.
I've lived in states where you were required to have rabies tags for pets - I paid the vet to give them to me and shoot the stuff in the sink. I've had them argue with me on it, but eventually they'd do it. I am so glad I live in a state that stays out of that, now.
I wanted to come here and say the same. Pet vaccines are crap. I know many develop tumors or cancers at injection sites. And yet for something that's supposed to work, it has to be given ever year.
That sounds like a good vet.
I've just stopped and won't be going to the vet unless I have to. Then I'll either lie or tell them the truth. They've had a few years of it... But I stopped before they got older.
That was before I knew better.
I'm a little late on replying, only because I opened this and didn't get to it until now.
Oh lol, I just searched for the kennel cough vaccine and the top related searches are 'bordella vaccine killed my dog'. I don't know if this is true or not but then there are various articles countering claims of death because vaccines are safe and effective. So... Huh.
In particular, I would love to know what those of you with more medical/ biological knowledge think. Is there a really simple answer to all this that makes it make sense?
Can humans just use dog kennel cough nose vaccines if they gave zoo animals human mrna vaccines?
coronavirus is an umbrella ☂️ term that has been used to describe common cold type illness for many decades. there are a ton of vaccines for coronaviruses.
Yeah, that's one of the oddities, why most companies decided to use new novel mrna technology when you would think they could just update existing vaccines. From what I remember, they made it sound like since it was so radically novel we had nothing similar and we had to resort to this untested new gene therapy. There was never even any suggestion that we could use the yearly flu shots as a starting point. I could be wrong.
And why don't they administer them Intranasally?
And you're right, the kennel cough vaccine can cover "4 strains of Lepto and coronavirus. Canine Spectra 10 aids in the prevention of disease caused by canine distemper, adenovirus type 2, hepatitis, parainfluenza, parvovirus Type 2b, 4 strains of Lepto (L. canicola, L. grippotyphosa, L. icterohaemorrhagiae, and L. pomona,) and coronavirus." so I'm not sure which strain of coronovirus.
Can you fasten a ½" nut onto the same bolt as a ⅜" nut? Even though both nuts are round, they are very different in their sizes and threading.
I doubt kennel cough drugs would work on the covid bioweapon, there's no reason I've seen to think they'd work. But within the chaos of a human body sometimes you get lucky, so... maybe?
Just speculating, but a medicine doesn't have to work for it to be adopted as the norm. See remdisivir. Which not only didn't work but was actually deadly. OR AZT. A loose correlation (provided by a study commissioned the manufacturer), and no bad side-effects would probably be enough to have a medicine be declared as the permanent standard of care for a particular illness these days. Medicine/Allopathy has been quite corrupt for many decades, and I guess that could include animal medicine.
That's a good point. The kennel cough vaccine may not even work.
I know the rabies and 1st set of short is just a money grab. The 1st set is admittedly only protection for a few week or month until the 2nd shot. If a puppy / dog is old enough for the second shot then they just skip the first. So it was never necessary.
The rabies is BS is a bunch of different ways. One, because it probably lasts 5_10 years, not this yearly schedule they have.
And secondly because even if you have kept up with your yearly rabies shots, they still tell you to go pay for another shot if exposure to a rabid animal occurs. Which means that there is time after exposure to get the shot.... And that there is doubt that the yearly shots work? Anyway, it is a business. Heart guard is just ivermectin and it is actually extremely expensive at the vets.... You could get a lifetime supply of generic ivermectin for your dogs heartworm for like 40 bucks.
I had a great vet when I lived in Reno. I don't remember how it happened but we started discussing vaccines (2013-ish). I told her that I didn't want any for my old lady cat because she was an indoor cat (that was always my 'excuse' with vets to get them to quit harassing me about it). She said she never recommends vaccines for any reason.
She said she saw so many animals get sick, so many die shortly after vaccination. She said she was trained to give vaccines in a leg in case something went wrong so that they could amputate.
Since she was safe to talk to, I talked to her about my vaccine injuries and we both just went off on it all.
It's all a scam. None of it works like they say. I have changed vets because they were pressuring vaccines - I actually had one say he wouldn't fix my kitten because I refused to vaccinate him for the cat version of kennel cough. I changed vets immediately and my new vet has never even brought them up.
I've lived in states where you were required to have rabies tags for pets - I paid the vet to give them to me and shoot the stuff in the sink. I've had them argue with me on it, but eventually they'd do it. I am so glad I live in a state that stays out of that, now.
I wanted to come here and say the same. Pet vaccines are crap. I know many develop tumors or cancers at injection sites. And yet for something that's supposed to work, it has to be given ever year.
That sounds like a good vet.
I've just stopped and won't be going to the vet unless I have to. Then I'll either lie or tell them the truth. They've had a few years of it... But I stopped before they got older. That was before I knew better.
I'm a little late on replying, only because I opened this and didn't get to it until now.
Oh lol, I just searched for the kennel cough vaccine and the top related searches are 'bordella vaccine killed my dog'. I don't know if this is true or not but then there are various articles countering claims of death because vaccines are safe and effective. So... Huh.
a bit off topic but don't mistake a kennel cough for liquid in the lungs due to a heart murmur/ congestive heart defect.
https://communities.win/c/NoNewNormal/p/16bPeTI5LA/
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In particular, I would love to know what those of you with more medical/ biological knowledge think. Is there a really simple answer to all this that makes it make sense?
Can humans just use dog kennel cough nose vaccines if they gave zoo animals human mrna vaccines?
coronavirus is an umbrella ☂️ term that has been used to describe common cold type illness for many decades. there are a ton of vaccines for coronaviruses.
Yeah, that's one of the oddities, why most companies decided to use new novel mrna technology when you would think they could just update existing vaccines. From what I remember, they made it sound like since it was so radically novel we had nothing similar and we had to resort to this untested new gene therapy. There was never even any suggestion that we could use the yearly flu shots as a starting point. I could be wrong.
And why don't they administer them Intranasally?
And you're right, the kennel cough vaccine can cover "4 strains of Lepto and coronavirus. Canine Spectra 10 aids in the prevention of disease caused by canine distemper, adenovirus type 2, hepatitis, parainfluenza, parvovirus Type 2b, 4 strains of Lepto (L. canicola, L. grippotyphosa, L. icterohaemorrhagiae, and L. pomona,) and coronavirus." so I'm not sure which strain of coronovirus.
Corona just means it looks round in a microscope.
Can you fasten a ½" nut onto the same bolt as a ⅜" nut? Even though both nuts are round, they are very different in their sizes and threading.
I doubt kennel cough drugs would work on the covid bioweapon, there's no reason I've seen to think they'd work. But within the chaos of a human body sometimes you get lucky, so... maybe?