The light from stars travels billions of light years
I don’t believe such things, but even if it were true - it wouldn’t change what i said or the demonstrable reality of it. No matter how far away the light source is - as you recede from it (or it from you) it will appear to converge with the horizon and eventually no longer be visible.
only to be blocked
You misunderstand, that is your view. You are the one who believes that the light is blocked by the “curve of the earth”.
In my view, the receding light is first apparently converged with the visible horizon (perspective / angular resolution), and ultimately refracted, convexly towards the surface, by the density gradient in our air.
Makes total sense.
It does when you understand it. However, making sense doesn’t make it (or anything) correct. Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibility.
In my view, the receding light is first apparently converged with the visible horizon (perspective / angular resolution), and ultimately refracted, convexly towards the surface, by the density gradient in our air.
Publish your research, show your empirical evidence and then have it reviewed by your peers. Once you do, you will be proven right and become the most famous person in the world.
Think of all the brave innovators who challenged the church and old-school ways that came before you. Copernicus, Galileo, at al, now YOU have an opportunity to be that person. Show the world your evidence and facts so everyone can once and for know how they have all been manipulated.
I “published” the conclusions of my research to you - just now...
Besides, what i’ve said is demonstrably observable for all to see. What better “publishment” can there be but trivially observable reality?
All objects, and the light from them - wether reflected or self luminescent - do as i describe when receding.
show your empirical evidence and then have it reviewed by your peers
Again, there is no better empirical evidence than trivially observable reality. Go out and “review” my evidence for yourself. Science is about replication (validation), not the publishing racket.
Once you do, you will be proven right and become the most famous person in the world.
Lol. You massively overestimate peoples interest in such things. Virtually no one cares friend, because they are too busy slaving away to “earn” a crust.
Think of all the brave innovators who challenged the church and old-school ways that came before you
I like historical fiction as well, but it is important to remember that they are just stories.
so everyone can once and for know how they have all been manipulated.
No one requires to be “manipulated” in order to be wrong and to likewise be taught, from childhood, wrong things and repeat them. That happens naturally, without any intervention/manipulation.
What are you waiting for?
That is a good question to ask yourself. I am not waiting. I’m here sharing my views and conclusions. You are the one who won’t/can’t bother to validate them. As I said, most people don’t care about such things :(
I “published” the conclusions of my research to you - just now...
No, any fundamental 'discovery' that goes against the status quo must be published in scientific journals so that people smarter than you or I can review, critique, and debunk your claims. Watch the movie, The Theory of Everything, where Hawkings was laughed at, scoffed at, and told he was a loon, by the establishment. If you don't have the guts to do this, then you are just a conspiracy theorist with nothing to show but the fact that you are a gutless coward and not serious.
Anyone can lay a claim that Jews control everything and that there is a secret cabal trying to hide the truth, well my friend, that is the true meaning of a conspiritard. You have nothing but your own paranoid delusions.
So put up or shut up. If you claim "I don't waste my time on those publishing rackets" that is the language of a coward. For you to say such a thing is just you admitting you really don't have the intelligence to go toe to toe with them. If you are so much smarter than they are, then put it in a paper and publish it. It's free for fuck sake.
Every flat earther is a fucking idiot, simply because they knowingly have nothing to show but some clown and a YouTube video.
To date, not one of you FE's has ever done anything more than make fake assumptions without any evidence whatsoever.
No, any fundamental 'discovery' that goes against the status quo
Lol, i disagree - but in any case; what “discovery that goes against the status quo” did you think we were discussing? What i said is well known and established. It’s most all “status quo” - not that that matters.
published in scientific journals
Again, science is about replication not the publisher racket. Are you familiar with the “crisis” in replication facing those “journals”? More than half of what is published across the board is garbage/junk/fraud. Although you are right that there ought to be a working system to foster and validate scientific claims - the publishing racket demonstrably isn’t that. Lots, if not most, things that “ought” to be, sadly are not.
The Theory of Everything, where Hawkings was laughed at, scoffed at, and told he was a loon, by the establishment.
As i said, i like historical fiction too - but it is important to remember it is just stories.
you are just a conspiracy theorist
Lol, imagine being on a forum called “conspiracies” and unironically saying something like this...
“Conspiracy theorist” is a meaningless derogatory designed (and procedurally used) only to discredit and slander. You would do well to refrain from using/perpetuating the tools of our common enemies.
Anyone can lay a claim that Jews control everything and that there is a secret cabal trying to hide the truth, well my friend, that is the true meaning of a conspiritard.
This “conversation” has sure taken a strange turn... What an odd non sequitur...
So put up or shut up
Completely agreed, and a great motto! I’m absolutely “putting up”. That’s what i am doing every time i share my views, research, and conclusions. That is regardless of the venue, which is irrelevant. You can, and evidently more than half do - routinely, “put up” nonsense in “reputable journals”. Publishing doesn’t matter, validation does!
that is the language of a coward
If you say so. I understand academia, and the parasitic profiteering publishing racket attached to its belly, far too well to fear it.
If you are so much smarter than they are
Lol, you misunderstand. The smartest people who ever lived were all wrong. It will be forever thus. Smart does not equal correct.
I am claiming that the commonly taught belief that the “curve of the earth” obscures distant objects/lights is incorrect. I am not claiming anything about my intelligence nor anyone else's.
Every flat earther is a fucking idiot
There aren’t really any flat earthers. That’s a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) psyop. They are advertised as idiots intentionally to drive legitimate interest and research away from a valuable subject.
To date, not one of you FE's has ever done anything more than make fake assumptions without any evidence whatsoever.
In general, i agree with you - however there are many earnest flat earth researchers which conduct legitimate - evidence based - research. The psyop is designed to obfuscate them.
Also, “evidence” is not the “slam dunk” it is often misrepresented as. There is evidence available for most anything, very much including things which are incorrect. Legitimate evidence is used to convict innocent people all the time. Legitimate scientific/empirical evidence is historically always used to draw incorrect conclusions and theories which are then taught institutionally to millions.
I don’t believe such things, but even if it were true - it wouldn’t change what i said or the demonstrable reality of it. No matter how far away the light source is - as you recede from it (or it from you) it will appear to converge with the horizon and eventually no longer be visible.
You misunderstand, that is your view. You are the one who believes that the light is blocked by the “curve of the earth”.
In my view, the receding light is first apparently converged with the visible horizon (perspective / angular resolution), and ultimately refracted, convexly towards the surface, by the density gradient in our air.
It does when you understand it. However, making sense doesn’t make it (or anything) correct. Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibility.
Publish your research, show your empirical evidence and then have it reviewed by your peers. Once you do, you will be proven right and become the most famous person in the world.
Think of all the brave innovators who challenged the church and old-school ways that came before you. Copernicus, Galileo, at al, now YOU have an opportunity to be that person. Show the world your evidence and facts so everyone can once and for know how they have all been manipulated.
What are you waiting for?
I “published” the conclusions of my research to you - just now...
Besides, what i’ve said is demonstrably observable for all to see. What better “publishment” can there be but trivially observable reality?
All objects, and the light from them - wether reflected or self luminescent - do as i describe when receding.
Again, there is no better empirical evidence than trivially observable reality. Go out and “review” my evidence for yourself. Science is about replication (validation), not the publishing racket.
Lol. You massively overestimate peoples interest in such things. Virtually no one cares friend, because they are too busy slaving away to “earn” a crust.
I like historical fiction as well, but it is important to remember that they are just stories.
No one requires to be “manipulated” in order to be wrong and to likewise be taught, from childhood, wrong things and repeat them. That happens naturally, without any intervention/manipulation.
That is a good question to ask yourself. I am not waiting. I’m here sharing my views and conclusions. You are the one who won’t/can’t bother to validate them. As I said, most people don’t care about such things :(
No, any fundamental 'discovery' that goes against the status quo must be published in scientific journals so that people smarter than you or I can review, critique, and debunk your claims. Watch the movie, The Theory of Everything, where Hawkings was laughed at, scoffed at, and told he was a loon, by the establishment. If you don't have the guts to do this, then you are just a conspiracy theorist with nothing to show but the fact that you are a gutless coward and not serious.
Fuck, today it is so easy, just look at https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=scientific+paper+on+the+shape+of+the+earth&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
Anyone can lay a claim that Jews control everything and that there is a secret cabal trying to hide the truth, well my friend, that is the true meaning of a conspiritard. You have nothing but your own paranoid delusions.
So put up or shut up. If you claim "I don't waste my time on those publishing rackets" that is the language of a coward. For you to say such a thing is just you admitting you really don't have the intelligence to go toe to toe with them. If you are so much smarter than they are, then put it in a paper and publish it. It's free for fuck sake.
Every flat earther is a fucking idiot, simply because they knowingly have nothing to show but some clown and a YouTube video.
To date, not one of you FE's has ever done anything more than make fake assumptions without any evidence whatsoever.
https://scientific-publishing.webshop.elsevier.com/publication-recognition/how-to-submit-a-paper-for-publication-in-a-journal/
Lol, i disagree - but in any case; what “discovery that goes against the status quo” did you think we were discussing? What i said is well known and established. It’s most all “status quo” - not that that matters.
Again, science is about replication not the publisher racket. Are you familiar with the “crisis” in replication facing those “journals”? More than half of what is published across the board is garbage/junk/fraud. Although you are right that there ought to be a working system to foster and validate scientific claims - the publishing racket demonstrably isn’t that. Lots, if not most, things that “ought” to be, sadly are not.
As i said, i like historical fiction too - but it is important to remember it is just stories.
Lol, imagine being on a forum called “conspiracies” and unironically saying something like this...
“Conspiracy theorist” is a meaningless derogatory designed (and procedurally used) only to discredit and slander. You would do well to refrain from using/perpetuating the tools of our common enemies.
This “conversation” has sure taken a strange turn... What an odd non sequitur...
Completely agreed, and a great motto! I’m absolutely “putting up”. That’s what i am doing every time i share my views, research, and conclusions. That is regardless of the venue, which is irrelevant. You can, and evidently more than half do - routinely, “put up” nonsense in “reputable journals”. Publishing doesn’t matter, validation does!
If you say so. I understand academia, and the parasitic profiteering publishing racket attached to its belly, far too well to fear it.
Lol, you misunderstand. The smartest people who ever lived were all wrong. It will be forever thus. Smart does not equal correct.
I am claiming that the commonly taught belief that the “curve of the earth” obscures distant objects/lights is incorrect. I am not claiming anything about my intelligence nor anyone else's.
There aren’t really any flat earthers. That’s a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) psyop. They are advertised as idiots intentionally to drive legitimate interest and research away from a valuable subject.
In general, i agree with you - however there are many earnest flat earth researchers which conduct legitimate - evidence based - research. The psyop is designed to obfuscate them.
Also, “evidence” is not the “slam dunk” it is often misrepresented as. There is evidence available for most anything, very much including things which are incorrect. Legitimate evidence is used to convict innocent people all the time. Legitimate scientific/empirical evidence is historically always used to draw incorrect conclusions and theories which are then taught institutionally to millions.