Absolutely. These graphs are a great demonstration of the importance of sanitation and clean water, but are not great at evaluating the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of vaccines
An important point to note is these are graphs of mortality and not incidence. But yes it's true the mortality of most of these diseases dropped as much as 99% before vaccines for them were introduced.
Yes, I wish the graphs were not cut off and scaled appropriately. Vaccines are not designed to cure disease, they're designed to reduce the chance of reducing its contraction. Clean water is extremely important but are not the only factor on disease rate nor mortality. For example. maybe sanitation did mostly reduce the incidence of measles. But with a cut off graph and inappropriate scaling, it is impossible to tell if the vaccine helped (or hurt) the incidence. It is important to note I am not defending COVID-19 "vaccines" since these are an entirely different beast backed by malice and are not true vaccines
Awesome, thanks for posting this. It's great to have corroborating sources for the same basic information, especially since a lot of the stuff online goes missing after a couple years.
I hope you're right and it's just that. Me, I'm afraid it's a lot worse. Judging from from what morticians are discovering in vaxxed dead bodies, long white rubbery strings ... Hydrogel?
I fear the exact same thing :/ there's no fucking way they would do all this just for profit either (they can just print money), so that argument is out... something much worse is coming, and all the zombie movies we watched are probably a decent clue as to what that something is...
It's not the money, that's for sure. And, I'm afraid it could be worse than what you're describing. What if your mind is disconnected from your body? suppose your body is under the control of AI using nanotechnology and frequency. Just a scary thought.
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm thinking also. I mention zombie movies, but I'm thinking more about the philosophical nature of zombies, mindless bodies roaming around following simple instructions, no inner voice, etc. I just hope all of us are wrong and this was just a power-play, but it just seems so ridiculous to do everything they did if it was just for basic power consolidation.
Yeah, I hope we're both wrong. And I'm with you as well when it comes to power consolidation. Actually, I think this plandemic did the exact opposite, they lost more control than they gained. So, I think it's safe we can eliminate money and control/power as reasons for the vaxx. I don't think it's for depop either. There are other ways to get rid of us much faster.
I'm unvaxxed and plan to stay that way. But, I'm thinking they've started injecting foods, like meats and vegetables with the vaxx. Time to begin growing our own herbs, vegetables and fruits. And maybe chicken, etc.
Same here (no vax). My wife's mom and aunts got the poison (despite my wife's attempts to convince them not to), and her mom almost died from a giant brain blood clot/stroke. She's permanently changed as a result, she has some of the behavioral attributes of a brain injury person, because part of her brain died from the stroke. She has to take Eliquis for life now.
And also that's a great idea (growing your own food). We just finished planting our garden last weekend, and we planted a bunch of fruit trees. Where we lived before we didn't really have any land, so now this is the first time we've had any real garden space in a decade. And pertaining poisoning food, that's a great reason to grow a garden for sure. Also, on the same front, I would recommend avoiding any produce with this company sticker on it (starting to show up all over the place), it's a Bill Gates project, so you know it's some kind of toxic waste:
If only everyone looked at this. I know people who think these are still serious 🤦🏼♀️ the vaccine rabbit hole is a fascinating one. I've dug deep, and won't be vaccinating anyone in my house ever. Even my dogs. Also no circumcision for any future boy baby. I've switched so many things in my house. Looking at also making my own colloidal silver eventually. It's interesting how many things that can naturally fix a lot.
So you think that everyone should base their opinion about vaccines on an image from some antivaxxer website with no data provided to support the claim?
Is that what I fucking said faggot? No. It might spark something to begin. To question it. To dive into research. For fucks sake, everyone here is so literal.
Did I ever fucking say, "if only everyone looked at this, took it as complete fact without any research, and preached it to the world."
No I don't think I fucking did, did I?
I also see this AFTER doing research, and knowing that EVERY one of these were on the decline before a vaccine was ever introduced.
The old vaccines did work but they should be saved for the bad diseases. It's not necessary to get vaccinated for illnesses that you can easily recover from. All those extra shots can't be good for you..... The flu vaccine is the biggest scam around.
As expected, these graphs do not appear in this paper. OP and whoever created this shitty graphic are nothing but filthy liars.
Here's an interesting piece from the article though:
The major declines in child mortality that occurred in the first third of the 20th century have been attributable to a combination of improved socioeconomic conditions in this country and the public health strategies to protect the health of Americans. These public health measures included the establishment of local health departments in nearly all of the states. State and local health departments implemented these public health measures including water treatment, food safety, organized solid waste disposal, and public education about hygienic practices. These improvements in water and food safety and purity are linked to the major decline in diarrheal diseases seen in the early years of the century.44 Similarly, improvements in housing and decreased crowding in US cities are linked to the reductions in mortality from tuberculosis and other diseases attributable to person-to-person airborne transmission.43
Vaccination, while first used in the 18th century, became more widely implemented in the middle part of the century. Vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis became available during the late 1920s but only widely used in routine pediatric practice after World War II. Thus vaccination does not account for the impressive declines in mortality seen in the first half of the century. The reductions in vaccine-preventable diseases, however, are impressive. In the early 1920s, diphtheria accounted for about 175 000 cases annually and pertussis for nearly 150 000 cases; measles accounted for about half a million annual cases before the introduction of vaccine in the 1960s. Deaths from these diseases have been virtually eliminated, as have deaths from Haemophilus influenzae, tetanus, and poliomyelitis.45
So what these fucking liars did was take some diseases which were reduced due to better housing and sanitation and claim that this is true for all other diseases.
Basic sanitation and hygiene will do that.
Absolutely. These graphs are a great demonstration of the importance of sanitation and clean water, but are not great at evaluating the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of vaccines
An important point to note is these are graphs of mortality and not incidence. But yes it's true the mortality of most of these diseases dropped as much as 99% before vaccines for them were introduced.
Good point. Getting sick sucks but not nearly as much as death. Reducing the benefit of these vaxxes. This impacts the risk/benefit analysis a lot.
Yes, I wish the graphs were not cut off and scaled appropriately. Vaccines are not designed to cure disease, they're designed to reduce the chance of reducing its contraction. Clean water is extremely important but are not the only factor on disease rate nor mortality. For example. maybe sanitation did mostly reduce the incidence of measles. But with a cut off graph and inappropriate scaling, it is impossible to tell if the vaccine helped (or hurt) the incidence. It is important to note I am not defending COVID-19 "vaccines" since these are an entirely different beast backed by malice and are not true vaccines
There has never been a "true vaccine."
I don't know where these exact graphs come from but you can find very similar plots in this paper: https://www.milbank.org/quarterly/articles/the-questionable-contribution-of-medical-measures-to-the-decline-of-mortality-in-the-united-states-in-the-twentieth-century/
Awesome, thanks for posting this. It's great to have corroborating sources for the same basic information, especially since a lot of the stuff online goes missing after a couple years.
yeah i saw eisenhorn claiming the plots were bs but i remembered seeing almost these exact plots before so I had to dig it up
Yeah, we humans are not very good at vaccines. Not even for depop. That's why I believe these C-19 jabs are meant for something else.
I hope you're right and it's just that. Me, I'm afraid it's a lot worse. Judging from from what morticians are discovering in vaxxed dead bodies, long white rubbery strings ... Hydrogel?
I fear the exact same thing :/ there's no fucking way they would do all this just for profit either (they can just print money), so that argument is out... something much worse is coming, and all the zombie movies we watched are probably a decent clue as to what that something is...
It's not the money, that's for sure. And, I'm afraid it could be worse than what you're describing. What if your mind is disconnected from your body? suppose your body is under the control of AI using nanotechnology and frequency. Just a scary thought.
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm thinking also. I mention zombie movies, but I'm thinking more about the philosophical nature of zombies, mindless bodies roaming around following simple instructions, no inner voice, etc. I just hope all of us are wrong and this was just a power-play, but it just seems so ridiculous to do everything they did if it was just for basic power consolidation.
Yeah, I hope we're both wrong. And I'm with you as well when it comes to power consolidation. Actually, I think this plandemic did the exact opposite, they lost more control than they gained. So, I think it's safe we can eliminate money and control/power as reasons for the vaxx. I don't think it's for depop either. There are other ways to get rid of us much faster.
I'm unvaxxed and plan to stay that way. But, I'm thinking they've started injecting foods, like meats and vegetables with the vaxx. Time to begin growing our own herbs, vegetables and fruits. And maybe chicken, etc.
Same here (no vax). My wife's mom and aunts got the poison (despite my wife's attempts to convince them not to), and her mom almost died from a giant brain blood clot/stroke. She's permanently changed as a result, she has some of the behavioral attributes of a brain injury person, because part of her brain died from the stroke. She has to take Eliquis for life now.
And also that's a great idea (growing your own food). We just finished planting our garden last weekend, and we planted a bunch of fruit trees. Where we lived before we didn't really have any land, so now this is the first time we've had any real garden space in a decade. And pertaining poisoning food, that's a great reason to grow a garden for sure. Also, on the same front, I would recommend avoiding any produce with this company sticker on it (starting to show up all over the place), it's a Bill Gates project, so you know it's some kind of toxic waste:
This is the company: https://twitter.com/apeelsciences/status/1551916754888163329
This is an oldie but goodie.
It's also bullshit but suit yourself.
Got raw data to confirm? I am unable to find historical data that far back.
Funny how you didn't ask OP for raw data.
Nice dodge, I assume they just post a meme. OP I assume laziness.
You, I can see, have malice.
If only everyone looked at this. I know people who think these are still serious 🤦🏼♀️ the vaccine rabbit hole is a fascinating one. I've dug deep, and won't be vaccinating anyone in my house ever. Even my dogs. Also no circumcision for any future boy baby. I've switched so many things in my house. Looking at also making my own colloidal silver eventually. It's interesting how many things that can naturally fix a lot.
So you think that everyone should base their opinion about vaccines on an image from some antivaxxer website with no data provided to support the claim?
Stay mad.
Is that what I fucking said faggot? No. It might spark something to begin. To question it. To dive into research. For fucks sake, everyone here is so literal.
Did I ever fucking say, "if only everyone looked at this, took it as complete fact without any research, and preached it to the world."
No I don't think I fucking did, did I?
I also see this AFTER doing research, and knowing that EVERY one of these were on the decline before a vaccine was ever introduced.
To question what? The shitty fake graphs with the unreadable legends?
Maybe question OP why he posts this garbage?
Question those who comment here proclaiming how this is the truth?
Okay dude Why are you even here?
Why are you here? To gobble up all the bullshit propaganda that is fed to you?
Haha, oh you're the same loser I told off...didn't realize until I went back to the thread.
Good one bro. Go back to your cuck shed.
I've explained more than enough to you for you to know the statement you made is incorrect.
The old vaccines did work but they should be saved for the bad diseases. It's not necessary to get vaccinated for illnesses that you can easily recover from. All those extra shots can't be good for you..... The flu vaccine is the biggest scam around.
Now do the same with absolute number of deaths instead of death rate.
According to this shit quality pixelated low res image, this is the source:
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Annual-summary-of-vital-statistics%3A-trends-in-the-Guyer-Freedman/f770a40bebcf2fcc7eb3e1e749e4e718b3cd4de9
As expected, these graphs do not appear in this paper. OP and whoever created this shitty graphic are nothing but filthy liars.
Here's an interesting piece from the article though:
So what these fucking liars did was take some diseases which were reduced due to better housing and sanitation and claim that this is true for all other diseases.