Completely agree. Christianity is more abrahamic brainwash religions to fool the dumb masses into following the SCRIPT-ture. They will reject this notion, as their Bible quite literally tells them to "be a good slave to your earthly slave masters."
They can't admit that an all loving god would never send its children to burn and be tortured forever just for not being his friend... and many more contradictions, just like the other two false Abrahamic jew religions.
You've hit on quite an important point, and I've had exactly the same thought. As regards Yahweh of the Bible, what is virtually universally missed is that he radically alters his position just during the course of that document.
Yes, we start with all the "burnt offerings" and all the rest of this, but even the Ten Commandments says nothing of worship except "Remember the sabbath day". (Later, Jesus reminds us that the Sabbath was created for Man, not Man for the Sabbath.) Interestingly, there is a commandment to honor your father and mother but--again--Yahweh does not even include himself there.
By the time of Isaiah, we get this very strong plain and statement regarding worship from Yahweh (Isaiah 1:11-14):
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
Right in the Scripture, from the man himself, yet completely ignored! Finally, by the end of the Bible (although similar things are mentioned several times before), we find in Revelation 21:2-3:
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
"A bride adorned for her husband"? "Dwell with them"? "Their God"? It all gives quite a different picture than that of some sort of blind worship.
Again, all ignored, which has greatly informed my view of "Biblical scholarship".
When carefully examined and properly understood, this is key to understanding the original history and relationship between humans and the Anunnaki. It all revolves around a single Hebrew word: avod. You can examine it more closely later, but just take a look at the title of this article:
Does the disjunction scream out at you? If not,let me break it down.
In the "Abrahamic" religions, there is a strong division between work and worship. W.H. Auden mentions, "My working week and my Sunday rest," and every Christian knows what that means. The Biblical Jews wanted to put two of Jesus' followers to death for gathering firewood on the Sabbath. Many modern Jews won't press an elevator button on Sabbat.
But in "avodah", we see work and worship fused together. It's unexpected, contradictory, extraordinarily baffling! How can this be?
If we go back to the true origin, though, it makes perfect sense. We learn that humans were created to do work the Anunnaki did not want to do, beginning with mining gold but of course expanding to everything else. In other words, we were created to work for the Anunnaki, which becomes "to serve the gods", which becomes "worship of god(s)". But you see how the original meaning has been lost and disguised.
As far as where the "day of rest" concept came in, I don't personally know but I would think even beasts of burden are not worked every single day. I suspect that one day out of seven was established by the Anunnaki as appropriate rest for their bests of burden. Indeed, this may have been the very purpose of originating the concept of "week". Why would primitive farmers and hunters have the least care to create such a period of time?
Well, in a larger sense, I'm only involved in trying to account for evidence we have at hand. I'm willing to speculate anything, but only so far as it provides a potentially falsifiable, well-defined hypothesis, or would at least serve as a framework for developing one.
There's a problem with introducing an all -powerful creator being into that. It's not that there isn't one because there are certain indications that there is, but as far as analysis you just handed yourself the ultimate wild card. Every single fact and circumstance can simply be explained as, "God willed it to be thus." Actual analysis becomes completely arbitrary, if not flushed right down the toilet. Just think of how liberals have a secret invisible asterisk at the end of every one of their statements. Do you want to be like them?
As far as the nature of consciousness, the biggest tip of the hand was the show "Westworld". We clearly see it as a technology that can be manipulated externally. If we look judiciously around at the current world and through history, we can find evidence of exactly that happening.
One might also analogize it to eyesight. We start with an in-built, "natural" facility. Note that different people have different characteristics, and some are even color-blind. We can augment it with everything from eyeglasses to telescopes and microscopes. With lasik and RK, we can also alter it in ways undetectable to all but specialists, who would need to examine the person carefully.
To sum up, instead of trying to "get somewhere", I simply try to make sense of what is already before me. When and as that is done and done well, where to look next is usually not much of an issue.
The main reason to worship Christ Jesus is that he died for our sins. The only path to salvation is by accepting him as your Lord and Savior. Before the New Covenant formed by the Blood of Christ, the Heavenly Father was worshipped because He is a jealous Creator. He deserves veneration.
You are exalting yourself with this kind of talk. The humble are the ones who are blessed. He who is first shall be last in Heaven.
Men are sinful in nature, ever since Adam and Eve left Eden. Spilled blood was needed to atone for our sins. Jesus is the Lamb of God. He lived a sinless life. He was the perfect sacrifice. He was the last blood sacrifice. Accepting His sacrifice, that he died for your sins, grants you salvation.
Sidenote: This is also why Christians should be indifferent to Jews looking for red heifers to sacrifice. Jesus fulfilled all the old laws and prophecies with his death and resurrection. Animal sacrifices are idolatry at this point. It's a strange case of doublethink, were most Christians falsely believe that modern Jewry is the succession to ancient Israel and follows its Old Covenant (even though it doesn't), but looking for red heifer is some sort of sign that Jewry is returning to its roots (which is actually the Talmud and its derivative works, not the Old Testament) and will eventually turn to Christ.
I would just add that, My opinion is that it is a guiding force that helps people stay balanced and helps to enforce a positive direction and feeling in the individual.
People without such direction can often end up on a bad path and employ a bad pattern.
a) CREATE, verb - "to bring into being from nothing; to cause to exist".
b) the few suggest creationism (out of nothing) to tempt the many to ignore perceivable transmutation (out of everything).
As form (life) within flow (inception towards death)...transmutation represents flow to form (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) aka transmutation of temporary ingredient out of ongoing base (alchemy).
A SHIP (life) has to evaluate the WORTH aka value of perceivable current (inception towards death), while resisting all the other suggested values floating around.
one; two; three...
...implies ONE consenting to count other ONEs as two; three etc. Counting is being suggested by others ones; while oneness (whole) designates itself into units (partials), hence each one representing a perceiving partial within perceivable whole.
If you show me anything representing "two"; then I will ask you if you're able to discern between each "one" of them...
Worship no one and nothing.
Who suggested one the worth of "no; not; nothing; nothingness" and why did one consent to it?
“ But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance. “ Matthew 9:13
True worship comes as a response to God’s mercy. A lot of people calling themselves Christians however think their religion and sacrifice is worship.
I have similar feelings about the Christian god. Does Christ need our fealty? What if we take his advice, and pattern our lives based on his teachings, but do not worship him? Are we destined to hell because we do not bend the knee?
FYI just finished reading the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. Here is my take away;
The message Jesus gives is this - 1) Follow the 10 commandments 2) Recognize that human suck and we sin 3) ask for forgiveness for that sin and try not to do it again 4) -most important- realize that forgiveness will be granted if the request to be forgiven is genuine.
That’s it. The rest of the Gospels is Jesus proving what faith does and forecasting his crucifixion.
The doom god you are talking about is the one Jews were following and they always revert to worshipping bull headed gods anyhow.
The Sons of God, or Watchers, rebelled against God and tried to take his creation for their own. Part of that rebellion was corrupting Gods perfect creation - man. Some of this is detailed in the War scroll and some in the Book of Enoch.
God flooded the world to get rid of the corruption of the Watchers, and according to the Book of Giants, God granted clemency to some of the Nephelim at Noah’s request.
To make sure man was free of spiritual corruption, he laid out 10 simple rules for us to follow - the 10 commandments. Sin appears to violating that extremely simple rule set.
These rules appear to be in place to help us fend off the corruption introduced by the Watchers and, when we fuck up - like we always do - we need to be disciplined just like we would disciple our own children when they insist on endangering themselves by ignoring the rules we set for their own safety.
Most of the horror show in the Old Testament is God continuing to purge the blight introduced by the watchers. Some of the events (I believe) are Jewish bull worship traditions being introduced to the text and blended with the identity of God to muddy the waters. Like I said, Jews love worshiping Bull gods, and love child sacrifice too for some reason
Eventually Jesus showed up to remind man that the rules were simple and forgiveness guaranteed, just like we would forgive our own children (see the parable of the Prodigal son).
I think the God of the Bible may be the Gnostic demiurge, the false, jealous, evil god etc.
Thats the beginning of one hell of a conversation. But its long overdue.
Completely agree. Christianity is more abrahamic brainwash religions to fool the dumb masses into following the SCRIPT-ture. They will reject this notion, as their Bible quite literally tells them to "be a good slave to your earthly slave masters."
They can't admit that an all loving god would never send its children to burn and be tortured forever just for not being his friend... and many more contradictions, just like the other two false Abrahamic jew religions.
You've hit on quite an important point, and I've had exactly the same thought. As regards Yahweh of the Bible, what is virtually universally missed is that he radically alters his position just during the course of that document.
Yes, we start with all the "burnt offerings" and all the rest of this, but even the Ten Commandments says nothing of worship except "Remember the sabbath day". (Later, Jesus reminds us that the Sabbath was created for Man, not Man for the Sabbath.) Interestingly, there is a commandment to honor your father and mother but--again--Yahweh does not even include himself there.
By the time of Isaiah, we get this very strong plain and statement regarding worship from Yahweh (Isaiah 1:11-14):
Right in the Scripture, from the man himself, yet completely ignored! Finally, by the end of the Bible (although similar things are mentioned several times before), we find in Revelation 21:2-3:
"A bride adorned for her husband"? "Dwell with them"? "Their God"? It all gives quite a different picture than that of some sort of blind worship.
Again, all ignored, which has greatly informed my view of "Biblical scholarship".
When carefully examined and properly understood, this is key to understanding the original history and relationship between humans and the Anunnaki. It all revolves around a single Hebrew word: avod. You can examine it more closely later, but just take a look at the title of this article:
‘Avodah’: What It Means to Live a Seamless Life of Work, Worship, and Service
Does the disjunction scream out at you? If not,let me break it down.
In the "Abrahamic" religions, there is a strong division between work and worship. W.H. Auden mentions, "My working week and my Sunday rest," and every Christian knows what that means. The Biblical Jews wanted to put two of Jesus' followers to death for gathering firewood on the Sabbath. Many modern Jews won't press an elevator button on Sabbat.
But in "avodah", we see work and worship fused together. It's unexpected, contradictory, extraordinarily baffling! How can this be?
If we go back to the true origin, though, it makes perfect sense. We learn that humans were created to do work the Anunnaki did not want to do, beginning with mining gold but of course expanding to everything else. In other words, we were created to work for the Anunnaki, which becomes "to serve the gods", which becomes "worship of god(s)". But you see how the original meaning has been lost and disguised.
As far as where the "day of rest" concept came in, I don't personally know but I would think even beasts of burden are not worked every single day. I suspect that one day out of seven was established by the Anunnaki as appropriate rest for their bests of burden. Indeed, this may have been the very purpose of originating the concept of "week". Why would primitive farmers and hunters have the least care to create such a period of time?
Well, in a larger sense, I'm only involved in trying to account for evidence we have at hand. I'm willing to speculate anything, but only so far as it provides a potentially falsifiable, well-defined hypothesis, or would at least serve as a framework for developing one.
There's a problem with introducing an all -powerful creator being into that. It's not that there isn't one because there are certain indications that there is, but as far as analysis you just handed yourself the ultimate wild card. Every single fact and circumstance can simply be explained as, "God willed it to be thus." Actual analysis becomes completely arbitrary, if not flushed right down the toilet. Just think of how liberals have a secret invisible asterisk at the end of every one of their statements. Do you want to be like them?
As far as the nature of consciousness, the biggest tip of the hand was the show "Westworld". We clearly see it as a technology that can be manipulated externally. If we look judiciously around at the current world and through history, we can find evidence of exactly that happening.
One might also analogize it to eyesight. We start with an in-built, "natural" facility. Note that different people have different characteristics, and some are even color-blind. We can augment it with everything from eyeglasses to telescopes and microscopes. With lasik and RK, we can also alter it in ways undetectable to all but specialists, who would need to examine the person carefully.
To sum up, instead of trying to "get somewhere", I simply try to make sense of what is already before me. When and as that is done and done well, where to look next is usually not much of an issue.
The main reason to worship Christ Jesus is that he died for our sins. The only path to salvation is by accepting him as your Lord and Savior. Before the New Covenant formed by the Blood of Christ, the Heavenly Father was worshipped because He is a jealous Creator. He deserves veneration.
You are exalting yourself with this kind of talk. The humble are the ones who are blessed. He who is first shall be last in Heaven.
Men are sinful in nature, ever since Adam and Eve left Eden. Spilled blood was needed to atone for our sins. Jesus is the Lamb of God. He lived a sinless life. He was the perfect sacrifice. He was the last blood sacrifice. Accepting His sacrifice, that he died for your sins, grants you salvation.
Sidenote: This is also why Christians should be indifferent to Jews looking for red heifers to sacrifice. Jesus fulfilled all the old laws and prophecies with his death and resurrection. Animal sacrifices are idolatry at this point. It's a strange case of doublethink, were most Christians falsely believe that modern Jewry is the succession to ancient Israel and follows its Old Covenant (even though it doesn't), but looking for red heifer is some sort of sign that Jewry is returning to its roots (which is actually the Talmud and its derivative works, not the Old Testament) and will eventually turn to Christ.
I ask this as respectfully. Why the ritual cannibalism?
Love under threat of eternal torture, is not love. This god is not love.
I would just add that, My opinion is that it is a guiding force that helps people stay balanced and helps to enforce a positive direction and feeling in the individual.
People without such direction can often end up on a bad path and employ a bad pattern.
Sun-day; Moon-day; Tyrs-day; Wodins-day; Thors-day; Freyas-day; Saturns-day...
a) CREATE, verb - "to bring into being from nothing; to cause to exist".
b) the few suggest creationism (out of nothing) to tempt the many to ignore perceivable transmutation (out of everything).
As form (life) within flow (inception towards death)...transmutation represents flow to form (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) aka transmutation of temporary ingredient out of ongoing base (alchemy).
A SHIP (life) has to evaluate the WORTH aka value of perceivable current (inception towards death), while resisting all the other suggested values floating around.
...implies ONE consenting to count other ONEs as two; three etc. Counting is being suggested by others ones; while oneness (whole) designates itself into units (partials), hence each one representing a perceiving partial within perceivable whole.
If you show me anything representing "two"; then I will ask you if you're able to discern between each "one" of them...
Who suggested one the worth of "no; not; nothing; nothingness" and why did one consent to it?
“ But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance. “ Matthew 9:13 True worship comes as a response to God’s mercy. A lot of people calling themselves Christians however think their religion and sacrifice is worship.
FYI just finished reading the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. Here is my take away;
The message Jesus gives is this - 1) Follow the 10 commandments 2) Recognize that human suck and we sin 3) ask for forgiveness for that sin and try not to do it again 4) -most important- realize that forgiveness will be granted if the request to be forgiven is genuine.
That’s it. The rest of the Gospels is Jesus proving what faith does and forecasting his crucifixion.
The doom god you are talking about is the one Jews were following and they always revert to worshipping bull headed gods anyhow.
Take all that for what you will…
I have to ask, what is sin? The 10 commandments? And who is the victim? Are we cursed for victimless crimes?
I don’t think so.
The Sons of God, or Watchers, rebelled against God and tried to take his creation for their own. Part of that rebellion was corrupting Gods perfect creation - man. Some of this is detailed in the War scroll and some in the Book of Enoch.
God flooded the world to get rid of the corruption of the Watchers, and according to the Book of Giants, God granted clemency to some of the Nephelim at Noah’s request.
To make sure man was free of spiritual corruption, he laid out 10 simple rules for us to follow - the 10 commandments. Sin appears to violating that extremely simple rule set.
These rules appear to be in place to help us fend off the corruption introduced by the Watchers and, when we fuck up - like we always do - we need to be disciplined just like we would disciple our own children when they insist on endangering themselves by ignoring the rules we set for their own safety.
Most of the horror show in the Old Testament is God continuing to purge the blight introduced by the watchers. Some of the events (I believe) are Jewish bull worship traditions being introduced to the text and blended with the identity of God to muddy the waters. Like I said, Jews love worshiping Bull gods, and love child sacrifice too for some reason
Eventually Jesus showed up to remind man that the rules were simple and forgiveness guaranteed, just like we would forgive our own children (see the parable of the Prodigal son).
Nope, the hateful vengeful god in the Bible's old Testament is the same evil god of the Bible's New Testament. Sorry.