It’s pretty easy to imagine, though. The Spaniards sailed up the gulf of California, didn’t get all the way, assumed it was just an island, and made a map of the trip.
Aww man, why do you gotta go and take something as awesome as this (the idea that California was a giant island as recently as 400 years ago) and ruin it with sound logic and reason...
It's an interesting idea, but after seeing how much shit governments make up, it's no surprise that they'd make up some thing like this, especially if there was some kind of bounty for their discovery.
The other theory is that the landscape changed (major catastrophe flood) and/or the map is much older. Columbus was the last to discover 'the new world'.
I definitely think that could be the case (catastrophe/flood). There's quite a bit of evidence supporting some kind of catastrophic "mud flood" scenario, but it's hard to pinpoint the timeframe or how widespread it was. I'm just having a hard time imagining a scenario where such a large landmass could move it so much in such a short period of time. It seems more likely that they just made up map details, cartographer sitting in his quarters the whole time with free license to invent an entire place so that they can go get some Mayan punini and get paid when they get home.
What theory? Look how small Hudson's Bay is with some appendage called Buttons Bay. This is so stupid. First, do you know that map makers combine maps? How do you know where the source info came from. The accuracy of maps are obviously not to be considered true -especially from 1600 for fuck sakes.
What would have been neat would have been if they had had hot air balloons carried on ships, and could launch them on a long tether to see what was ahead, from high up. For instance, a balloon at 1000 feet can see 38 miles to the horizon. Or if they had had small sea planes. And if the Spaniards had had geosats, today we'd speak Spanish, eat paiella, and drive shitty cars.
If you have a problem with map accuracy by explorers using a sexton and 60 years before clocks were invented, you're probably missing a few tools in your shed. Why do you conspiracy nut tards think everything is something nefarious? Mare Ruberum or Red Sea looks similar in topography and size, so they obviously stole the name just like many other things. See "New England" for more info.
What's wrong with asking questions and being curious? You're free to draw your own conclusions. Real truth seekers go back to the drawing board multiple times. They don't get stuck in one paradigm.
What's wrong with asking questions and being curious
Nothing. But your post reeks of someone who does not understand that map-making from 1600 is not to be considered accurate whatsoever.
You are implying that "the land changed but we're not being told" or some other form of senseless stupidness. Please focus on conspiracies that are actually true and impacting our lives. We gotta do better as a community by exposing the real villains out there actually conspiring against us.
The deception has been going on for thousands of years, not hundreds. It's hard to expose the "real villains" without going back and questioning every piece of accepted history, to begin with. Red herrings abound in the puzzle.
It’s pretty easy to imagine, though. The Spaniards sailed up the gulf of California, didn’t get all the way, assumed it was just an island, and made a map of the trip.
Aww man, why do you gotta go and take something as awesome as this (the idea that California was a giant island as recently as 400 years ago) and ruin it with sound logic and reason...
Why would they name all of the ports if that were the case?
It's an interesting idea, but after seeing how much shit governments make up, it's no surprise that they'd make up some thing like this, especially if there was some kind of bounty for their discovery.
The other theory is that the landscape changed (major catastrophe flood) and/or the map is much older. Columbus was the last to discover 'the new world'.
I definitely think that could be the case (catastrophe/flood). There's quite a bit of evidence supporting some kind of catastrophic "mud flood" scenario, but it's hard to pinpoint the timeframe or how widespread it was. I'm just having a hard time imagining a scenario where such a large landmass could move it so much in such a short period of time. It seems more likely that they just made up map details, cartographer sitting in his quarters the whole time with free license to invent an entire place so that they can go get some Mayan punini and get paid when they get home.
What theory? Look how small Hudson's Bay is with some appendage called Buttons Bay. This is so stupid. First, do you know that map makers combine maps? How do you know where the source info came from. The accuracy of maps are obviously not to be considered true -especially from 1600 for fuck sakes.
This post is retarded.
What would have been neat would have been if they had had hot air balloons carried on ships, and could launch them on a long tether to see what was ahead, from high up. For instance, a balloon at 1000 feet can see 38 miles to the horizon. Or if they had had small sea planes. And if the Spaniards had had geosats, today we'd speak Spanish, eat paiella, and drive shitty cars.
They weren't mistaken. But, I'm still waiting for California to fall into the ocean. It's more than a few years late.
Stanford University maintains a collection of just such maps:
Glen McLaughlin Map Collection: California as an Island
Apparently they are not laughing it off as you see the many geniuses on social media do. Perhaps they should contact Stanford to discuss it with them.
It's impressive how well they were able to create maps with nothing but ships and horses.
the horse came thru when cartography was put before it.
Well done.
Nice
I'm suspicious of the region at the top marked 'Santa's Workshop'.
I don't know what you're referring to unless this is a joke.
It's well understood that bots don't recognize humor, so it's okay.
https://archive.org/details/americabeinglate00mont/page/n17/mode/2up
If you have a problem with map accuracy by explorers using a sexton and 60 years before clocks were invented, you're probably missing a few tools in your shed. Why do you conspiracy nut tards think everything is something nefarious? Mare Ruberum or Red Sea looks similar in topography and size, so they obviously stole the name just like many other things. See "New England" for more info.
What's wrong with asking questions and being curious? You're free to draw your own conclusions. Real truth seekers go back to the drawing board multiple times. They don't get stuck in one paradigm.
Nothing. But your post reeks of someone who does not understand that map-making from 1600 is not to be considered accurate whatsoever.
You are implying that "the land changed but we're not being told" or some other form of senseless stupidness. Please focus on conspiracies that are actually true and impacting our lives. We gotta do better as a community by exposing the real villains out there actually conspiring against us.
The deception has been going on for thousands of years, not hundreds. It's hard to expose the "real villains" without going back and questioning every piece of accepted history, to begin with. Red herrings abound in the puzzle.
savman has a point.
How dare you question things whilst participating on a conspiracy forum!
Freakin awesome, nice find.