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Exiting the Information Age ...and entering the "Misinformation Age" (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 2 years ago by xolotltlaloc 2 years ago by xolotltlaloc +13 / -1
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– freedomlogic 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah the double hand is a tip off for sure. If you look at his bottom hand, looks like there is another hand there. Didnt notice until I really looked closely.

I seen some people in the r/con forum asking why these neural nets have such a hard time drawing hands.

I want to ask them. Have they ever tried drawing hands? Drawing inorganic things is much easier than drawing something like the human body, let alone hands or eyes.

Youll notice too the shadows that dont quite line up to cover the eyes, the ai's way of avoiding that detail I guess.

This seems to be a sole groups pet project and its getting better, but slowly.

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– WhistlingTeeth 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They actually fixed this with the latest version of Midjourney, so AI hands are about to get a lot better.

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– Michalusmichalus 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I don't see six fingers. But I do see no hands, and I regional fists.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

That happened over 20 years ago

we were long into misinformation age during 9-11 way back in 2001

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– freedomlogic 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Longer than that :). My in law come at me about believing everything I read and my response was that was the same bullshit they said hundreds of years ago during the invention of the printing press.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/before-zuckerberg-gutenberg/603034/

Even back then the rich, royalty and the church mainly, were trying to keep the genie in the bottle. Trying to convince people that they were to stupid understand the truth for themselves.

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

arguably, since the dawn of knowledge / information as capital.

however...

this AI stuff is some crazy shit.

if you ever could trust anything you saw...

i hope people realize that now it's clearly impossible.

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– DojaDog 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Aren't there programs that you can run an image through to see if it's fake/tampered or genuine image or Video? I'm sure I heard of one before. We will need these tools in the future.

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– freedomlogic 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That only works with a image that has been altered.

Not actually recreated.

Think of it like this. You have a painting and you want to alter one detail of it.

You dont redraw the entire painting, you just edit one small part of it. This is easy for a computer to see because there is going to be a break in the pattern of pixels/colors around the edit.

This technique is the equivalent of redrawing the entire image, whether thats to alter one little detail, or to create an entire fake image. For now all we can do is look for the imperfections that the ai leaves. Which may not exist in a few more years.

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– DojaDog 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I see thanks

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Aren't there programs that you can run an image through to see if it's fake/tampered or genuine image or Video?

there are programs that make such claims.

but no. a good photoshop is 100% undetectable.

companies that claim to be able to detect fakes are rigging their tests in favor of a very narrow bandwidth of parameters where their software excels -- usually relying on "mistakes" made by a drunken (presumably) photoshopper.

a good photoshopper can make 100% undetectable fakes.

100% undetectable .

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Just a reminder that AI is already indetectable.

Welcome to the Misinformation Age.

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– muhqtardtho 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

You're terrible at this.

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