That was honestly kind of shocking. Comparing them to pedophiles was so over the top that I couldn't believe what I was reading. It felt like reddit in the height of the vax rollout. Dragging them through the mud in every way possible. This is clearly something personal.
Seeing how many supporters for censorship are here was also dismaying. Then again, it's probably state actors finally asserting authority. I remember a story about reddit mods going on power trips and driving people here. It looks like they have finally followed us over here. I'm confident the topic banning won't stop there.
The funniest part to me is how so many claimed it was detracting from important conversations. As if any action occurs as a result of these forums. This place is 99% entertainment and socializing on conspiracy theories.
Comparing them to pedophiles was so over the top that I couldn't believe what I was reading.
Seeing how many supporters for censorship are here was also dismaying.
felt like reddit, remember a story about reddit
As if any action occurs as a result of these forums. This place is 99% entertainment and socializing on conspiracy theories.
Last one is the worst. "Hey goys, you'll never make a difference anyway so don't take anything serious, loljk"
This place and NNN was where I got most of my info re: the Covid conspiracy; which is actively being fought on multiple fronts. This is serious shit with huge implications and we can actually expose and do something about it if we focus. But hey, let's bury it in shitposts and lolcows...
I'm not for censorship, but if people like you want to fuck off, go for it. What not start c/randomshitimadeup? I'd join.
Exactly! Wtf
The same thing is and has been happening over at GAW. I am so fucking sick of assholes getting a little bit of power and then deciding what’s best for all of us. Fuck those people. .win is so obviously compromised it’s laughable.
First off, I in no way support banning flat earth discussion; I think it's an important lesson for all conspiracy theorists in what happens when you lose your grip on reality and most people wouldn't believe it unless they saw it themselves.
That said, is it actually a conspiracy? Technically?
A conspiracy is clandestine, organized action by a small group against the general population.
For FE to be true, everyone would have to be in on it. We're not just talking Nasa or the entire field of astronomy. We're talking pilots, mountain climbers, high rise construction workers, physicists (going back hundreds of years), anyone who relies on anything more than grade 6 math, and anyone who claims to have seen the sun "set".
That's not a conspiracy, that's a troll of epic proportions.
I've been a FE for over a year now and I've seen testimony from just about every group you listed. Pilots for example are waking up the most of any of them. If you look into their gyroscopes, they can't possibly function on a spinning, Orbiting sphere. They can only work on a motionless plane.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hRBuIFBed0tq/
Most people are indoctrinated since they watch sesame street as a toddler to think we live on a spinning ball in a void, so they are not in on it. The Manhattan project and MK Ultra and 9/11 are good examples of how secrets can be kept. Not all FE's think this but I think the hyliocentric model is an important part of the mass delusion the Bible prophecies. If it were found that the Earth was flat and domed, evolution, relativity, and big bang would all be thrown out the window. Our creator would be proven to most people (although there would still be strife over who he is). The NWO and all its associates in various nations would lose almost all their power overnight when people realize how lied to they are.
It's a pretty good "put up or shut up" type moment. Drop your biggest flat earth truth bombs today before it gets banned. Reveal your ace in the hole; prove to us all that earth is shaped like a coin.
Edit
Here's my evidence: open CMD, Ping different areas of the world. The results form a matrix. Other people in other places do the same and receive their Ping Results matrix. Their matrix is compared with my matrix. The only way our two results can reconcile is if the network is laid out along the surface of a sphere.
600 comments in the vote thread and none of the “Nay”s have even attempted to lay out the case for their “beliefs”. The furthest they get is “censorship bad”, even though they almost certainly support censorship for they things they are capable of identifying as forum siding/bad
It's the same arguing from illogic that you see in the trannies, commies, climate activists, terrain theorors, abortion fanatics, BLM'ers, vaxtards, etc.
Because it’s exasperating to deal with such obstinant retards, that’s all.
It’s like being a kindergarten teacher but when you try to tell the toddler to stop being retarded he responds with a 4 hour bitchute documentary and calls you a shill.
To be fair that thread isn't for debating FE. I've seen it debated, but never by anyone capable of being reasonable. And never with anything resembling compelling reason, let alone fact.
There are a handful of people across the .wins who, I would say, “entertain the notion” and maybe even lean towards it, but who do so in a humble and respectable manner. Nothing they’ve said on the subject has been convincing to me, or if it did have merit it wasn’t indicative (necessarily) of any kind of FE conclusion. Maybe like 8-10 of them on the high end. But what’s hilarious is those aren’t even really the people in that thread (other than maybe like 5/700 comments)
But mainly I just meant I found it funny that it isn’t even “we like seeing it” vs “we don’t like seeing it”, it’s “nebulous and undefined support of free speech” vs “common sense forum maintenance/protection”.
yeah, we are the nice people. You are the unhinged weirdos. as evidenced by your own words and behavior. We have the moral high ground, science and truth in our corner. All you guy do is this:
Only a fucking RETARD would try to conflate all those things you raised with “Flat Earthism”.
None of the things you raise are relevant. The age of the earth, evolution, the truth of human history, etc etc.
NONE OF THESE DEPEND ON FLAT EARTH
YOUR ATTEMPT TO CONFLATE THEM INDICATES YOU ARE EITHER A SHILL OR SO FUCKING STUPID IM SURPRISED YOU DON’T CHOKE ON YOUR OWN DROOL
No, I'm a big fan of the "Christians secretly want to fuck children because it's in the Bible" conspiracy. Which explains why so many priests and pastors get in trouble for molesting children. https://scored.co/c/Atheist/p/15IXfzfvVY/
Show me a real image of earth from space (not from a high altitude plane with a fish eye curve). Here is a vid outlining why I think space pics are all fake from other planets to satellites to asteroids to nebulas to galaxies.
https://youtu.be/mxkbB_CwFnk
Show me a flight that goes from south America over the south pole and comes up the other side of earth to Australia. This is the shortest route on a globe.
Show me a large body of water that curves with the globe and how it was measured beyond any doubt.
Also try booking some flights between south America and Australia. I guarantee the route will make far more sense on a gleason map than a globe. Play around with some different airports on each continent and see what the airlines offer. Plot the route on both globe and FE.
I said Perth to Buenos Aires because the shortest path is almost directly across the south pole (allegedly). I am a Mariner and it is my profession that lead me to FE. I'm not the only one. Charts come in all sorts of projections (distortions) and most people never think beyond that. Furthermore GPS (which is really a more advanced version of loran, and not from satellites) and chart programs take most of the thinking away from modern mariners. Why do you think it was possible to navigate across oceans whether cultures thought the earth was flat or a globe?
I dont care to debate. Just review and critically analyze images for yourself. Do some Google searches like real picture of jupiter, real picture of satellite in space, real picture of earth, meteor in space. They are all fake. The Mars rover is simply on devon Island Canada with a red filter added. My personal favorite is the alleged video of elons tesla orbiting in space. That shit is hilariously bad.
Real question: what is your solution to keep bad actors from flooding the forum with obviously ridiculous nonsense until it dies?
I struggle to give an example, given what we're talking about, but say someone puts forth the theory that "air is actually poisonous to humans and that's what's causing the recent excess deaths"? Then they spam the forum with unsourced, cherry picked examples ("people live longer at high altitudes", "100 yo man holds his breath 8 hours a day" "people live longer since deforestation started" etc). Pretty soon, anyone looking at real conspiracies (finding info and analysing it, which takes much longer than just making it up like I just did) are completely put off and go elsewhere while the forum is filled with low effort, history channel-esque memes.
I don't even mind that kind of stuff, per se, but it's not comparable to actual conspiracies that we have good evidence for but can't prove due to intentional obfuscation (like the Wuhan lab leak).
Most FE posters are selecting their stuff from repositories of nonsense created over years by a few prolific FE content creators, the ones who come up with the "proofs". What you describe above is more like someone making up an original claim that is demonstrated to be untrue quite quickly. It would not stand up to much scrutiny, and they probably would not have endless supply of back up "proofs" to spout in gish-gallop arguments like FE people do. If they keep spamming the same comment over and over again and ignoring discussion of the comment it would be reported as spam and removed.
I'm familiar with the names of 8-10 flat earthers on here and I review the content whenever I come across it. I've literally never seen anything spammed from FE. On a few occasions I will post the same link to 2 people if it's applicable to multiple convos im having. But that rarely ever happens from me.
I'm with him up until he brings up The Electric Rainbow Book and says that Wuhan was the first city blanketed with 5G.
I tried reading that book and stopped reading it, it seemed to make a lot of claims it was not substantiating. Some claims it made are substantiated in other places I've read, such as what he says about The Spanish Flu experiments. But the author's more original contributions about electric illness didn't seem well substantiated within the book. I will have to go back and look again, I always meant to give it another chance, but moved on.
As to the Wuhan being first city to be blanketed by 5G thing. Is it true? I don't know that it is. And if it was true - there was no big outbreak of illness in Wuhan. There were a few people who suffered from severe pneumonia in a city with poor air quality. And then there was the propaganda videos. In the end though, Wuhan never had the big spike in illness and death. Why not, if it was the first city to be blaneketd in 5G and 5G causes pneumonia?
Cowan doesn't bring up how many (all?) of the people we are told that died from "Covid" actually died from the crazy treatments they were given to try and fight a fake novel "virus". No one was given known, effective treatments because doctors were told from the start that the usual treatments for pneumonia (covid is pnemonia BTW) would not work because they only work for pneumonia casued by known viruses, not this new virus. So they were given some of the most toxic experimental cocktails of antibiotics and other strong drugs ever given, often in over dose amounts, placed on respirators that have a tiny long term survival rate etc etc.
Why doesn't Doctor Cowan mention how perhaps a vast majority of the people we are told died from covid were actually murdered by their doctors?
The point that matters is the slippery slope fallacy that if one topic (FE) is banned, which has a whole .win devoted to that topic, that other topics will follow suit in reddit power tripping Marxist mod fashion.
Don't get distracted by oh look a squirrel!
This one topic, FE, is a kookifying distraction away from the intended purpose of this .win. Removing it simply allows for its stated purpose. (At least in theory)
Before we get into that, let's see the comment. How long did you spend scrolling for it when you saw it? it can't be that far back, since I haven't been commenting a lot lately except for the FE post. You could also search my user name and some of the words you remember from the comment. Come on now, where are your excellent research skillz gone?
Oh boy, I look forward to narrative-approved conspiracy discussions! Remember, wrong think is a bannable offense, and I don't want to think wrong! After all, I'm a child who can't think for myself and need mods like u/clemaneuverers to tell me what is true and not true. It's just so obvious!
Wrong think has nothing to do with it. There's a whole .win devoted to this one topic FE) so censorship doesn't pertain. It's purely about dead end conversations that always become abusive / uncivil, and further are frustratingly irrational. That's your domain ...
No, I've never burnt a book, and yes, I will certainly help you out any time you are having trouble discerning reality from fantasy, if you want such help. I know it can be tricky. Ping me if you are unsure.
That was honestly kind of shocking. Comparing them to pedophiles was so over the top that I couldn't believe what I was reading. It felt like reddit in the height of the vax rollout. Dragging them through the mud in every way possible. This is clearly something personal.
Seeing how many supporters for censorship are here was also dismaying. Then again, it's probably state actors finally asserting authority. I remember a story about reddit mods going on power trips and driving people here. It looks like they have finally followed us over here. I'm confident the topic banning won't stop there.
The funniest part to me is how so many claimed it was detracting from important conversations. As if any action occurs as a result of these forums. This place is 99% entertainment and socializing on conspiracy theories.
Oh well, time to find a new forum.
Clear forum sliding:
Last one is the worst. "Hey goys, you'll never make a difference anyway so don't take anything serious, loljk"
This place and NNN was where I got most of my info re: the Covid conspiracy; which is actively being fought on multiple fronts. This is serious shit with huge implications and we can actually expose and do something about it if we focus. But hey, let's bury it in shitposts and lolcows...
I'm not for censorship, but if people like you want to fuck off, go for it. What not start c/randomshitimadeup? I'd join.
c/FlatEarthResearch exists. Its creator seems sincere rather than a kookifier.
thanks for the link
Exactly! Wtf The same thing is and has been happening over at GAW. I am so fucking sick of assholes getting a little bit of power and then deciding what’s best for all of us. Fuck those people. .win is so obviously compromised it’s laughable.
Bye bye
First off, I in no way support banning flat earth discussion; I think it's an important lesson for all conspiracy theorists in what happens when you lose your grip on reality and most people wouldn't believe it unless they saw it themselves.
That said, is it actually a conspiracy? Technically?
A conspiracy is clandestine, organized action by a small group against the general population.
For FE to be true, everyone would have to be in on it. We're not just talking Nasa or the entire field of astronomy. We're talking pilots, mountain climbers, high rise construction workers, physicists (going back hundreds of years), anyone who relies on anything more than grade 6 math, and anyone who claims to have seen the sun "set".
That's not a conspiracy, that's a troll of epic proportions.
I've been a FE for over a year now and I've seen testimony from just about every group you listed. Pilots for example are waking up the most of any of them. If you look into their gyroscopes, they can't possibly function on a spinning, Orbiting sphere. They can only work on a motionless plane. https://www.bitchute.com/video/hRBuIFBed0tq/
Most people are indoctrinated since they watch sesame street as a toddler to think we live on a spinning ball in a void, so they are not in on it. The Manhattan project and MK Ultra and 9/11 are good examples of how secrets can be kept. Not all FE's think this but I think the hyliocentric model is an important part of the mass delusion the Bible prophecies. If it were found that the Earth was flat and domed, evolution, relativity, and big bang would all be thrown out the window. Our creator would be proven to most people (although there would still be strife over who he is). The NWO and all its associates in various nations would lose almost all their power overnight when people realize how lied to they are.
It's a pretty good "put up or shut up" type moment. Drop your biggest flat earth truth bombs today before it gets banned. Reveal your ace in the hole; prove to us all that earth is shaped like a coin.
Edit
Here's my evidence: open CMD, Ping different areas of the world. The results form a matrix. Other people in other places do the same and receive their Ping Results matrix. Their matrix is compared with my matrix. The only way our two results can reconcile is if the network is laid out along the surface of a sphere.
600 comments in the vote thread and none of the “Nay”s have even attempted to lay out the case for their “beliefs”. The furthest they get is “censorship bad”, even though they almost certainly support censorship for they things they are capable of identifying as forum siding/bad
It's the same arguing from illogic that you see in the trannies, commies, climate activists, terrain theorors, abortion fanatics, BLM'ers, vaxtards, etc.
Another lie. I posted why it all matters and all you did was act like an unhinged child again.
And right after you did that, I pointed out how nothing you mentioned depends on a flat earth. Now your turn.
No, you sperged out like an unhinged child like you always do. Because your side has nothing but lies.
Because it’s exasperating to deal with such obstinant retards, that’s all.
It’s like being a kindergarten teacher but when you try to tell the toddler to stop being retarded he responds with a 4 hour bitchute documentary and calls you a shill.
More ad hominims. Never an honest discussion about the topic. You're a boring child.
>muh aD hOmiNiDS
Wow, sorry, didn’t realize I was talking to such an upstanding champion of logic.
Say champ, why do things seem to fall at 9.8 m/s/s on earth?
To be fair that thread isn't for debating FE. I've seen it debated, but never by anyone capable of being reasonable. And never with anything resembling compelling reason, let alone fact.
There are a handful of people across the .wins who, I would say, “entertain the notion” and maybe even lean towards it, but who do so in a humble and respectable manner. Nothing they’ve said on the subject has been convincing to me, or if it did have merit it wasn’t indicative (necessarily) of any kind of FE conclusion. Maybe like 8-10 of them on the high end. But what’s hilarious is those aren’t even really the people in that thread (other than maybe like 5/700 comments)
But mainly I just meant I found it funny that it isn’t even “we like seeing it” vs “we don’t like seeing it”, it’s “nebulous and undefined support of free speech” vs “common sense forum maintenance/protection”.
I don’t envy you mods with any real work loads
I think that's the issue, FE is probably responsible for the vast majority of mod workload here, of the "now children" variety.
yeah, we are the nice people. You are the unhinged weirdos. as evidenced by your own words and behavior. We have the moral high ground, science and truth in our corner. All you guy do is this:
Only a fucking RETARD would try to conflate all those things you raised with “Flat Earthism”.
None of the things you raise are relevant. The age of the earth, evolution, the truth of human history, etc etc.
NONE OF THESE DEPEND ON FLAT EARTH
YOUR ATTEMPT TO CONFLATE THEM INDICATES YOU ARE EITHER A SHILL OR SO FUCKING STUPID IM SURPRISED YOU DON’T CHOKE ON YOUR OWN DROOL
How can you possibly have the high ground with your head so far up your ass?
Again, that's us, and not you. Evidenced by your own words and actions.
I don't. I want everything to be allowed if it's a conspiracy of some kind.
Yeah, that’s your problem. I bet your a huge fan of “age of consent” conspiracies and “loli faggotry is ART!” conspiracies.
No, I'm a big fan of the "Christians secretly want to fuck children because it's in the Bible" conspiracy. Which explains why so many priests and pastors get in trouble for molesting children. https://scored.co/c/Atheist/p/15IXfzfvVY/
Show me a real image of earth from space (not from a high altitude plane with a fish eye curve). Here is a vid outlining why I think space pics are all fake from other planets to satellites to asteroids to nebulas to galaxies. https://youtu.be/mxkbB_CwFnk
Show me a flight that goes from south America over the south pole and comes up the other side of earth to Australia. This is the shortest route on a globe.
Show me a large body of water that curves with the globe and how it was measured beyond any doubt.
Go in gcmap dot com and map Santiago to Sydney "SCL-SYD" it is 7,060 miles and doesn't go over the south pole using a great circle.
No go calculate the miles on a flat earth map and you get double the miles.
Do you really think every ship captain for 500 years has been altering the logs to make it look like the clipper route was faster and nobody noticed?
Your belief system is "everything I don't believe is a lie" which is totally circular, ironically.
Also try booking some flights between south America and Australia. I guarantee the route will make far more sense on a gleason map than a globe. Play around with some different airports on each continent and see what the airlines offer. Plot the route on both globe and FE.
I said Perth to Buenos Aires because the shortest path is almost directly across the south pole (allegedly). I am a Mariner and it is my profession that lead me to FE. I'm not the only one. Charts come in all sorts of projections (distortions) and most people never think beyond that. Furthermore GPS (which is really a more advanced version of loran, and not from satellites) and chart programs take most of the thinking away from modern mariners. Why do you think it was possible to navigate across oceans whether cultures thought the earth was flat or a globe?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=EZE-Per&MS=wls&DU=mi
You ask for evidence while vowing to reject any evidence given, so why should anyone waste their time debating you?
I dont care to debate. Just review and critically analyze images for yourself. Do some Google searches like real picture of jupiter, real picture of satellite in space, real picture of earth, meteor in space. They are all fake. The Mars rover is simply on devon Island Canada with a red filter added. My personal favorite is the alleged video of elons tesla orbiting in space. That shit is hilariously bad.
From what I read many were against the censorship from a topic that is absolutely retarded. Not bad free speech.
Exactly. Thank you. Never thought I’d be saying this, but my God I miss Voat.
Real question: what is your solution to keep bad actors from flooding the forum with obviously ridiculous nonsense until it dies?
I struggle to give an example, given what we're talking about, but say someone puts forth the theory that "air is actually poisonous to humans and that's what's causing the recent excess deaths"? Then they spam the forum with unsourced, cherry picked examples ("people live longer at high altitudes", "100 yo man holds his breath 8 hours a day" "people live longer since deforestation started" etc). Pretty soon, anyone looking at real conspiracies (finding info and analysing it, which takes much longer than just making it up like I just did) are completely put off and go elsewhere while the forum is filled with low effort, history channel-esque memes.
I don't even mind that kind of stuff, per se, but it's not comparable to actual conspiracies that we have good evidence for but can't prove due to intentional obfuscation (like the Wuhan lab leak).
Most FE posters are selecting their stuff from repositories of nonsense created over years by a few prolific FE content creators, the ones who come up with the "proofs". What you describe above is more like someone making up an original claim that is demonstrated to be untrue quite quickly. It would not stand up to much scrutiny, and they probably would not have endless supply of back up "proofs" to spout in gish-gallop arguments like FE people do. If they keep spamming the same comment over and over again and ignoring discussion of the comment it would be reported as spam and removed.
I'm familiar with the names of 8-10 flat earthers on here and I review the content whenever I come across it. I've literally never seen anything spammed from FE. On a few occasions I will post the same link to 2 people if it's applicable to multiple convos im having. But that rarely ever happens from me.
Source? Oh right, I forgot. You don't provide sources for your claims.
https://newtube.app/user/VERITASISJUDGE/OXPFYPv
thoughts?
I'm with him up until he brings up The Electric Rainbow Book and says that Wuhan was the first city blanketed with 5G.
I tried reading that book and stopped reading it, it seemed to make a lot of claims it was not substantiating. Some claims it made are substantiated in other places I've read, such as what he says about The Spanish Flu experiments. But the author's more original contributions about electric illness didn't seem well substantiated within the book. I will have to go back and look again, I always meant to give it another chance, but moved on.
As to the Wuhan being first city to be blanketed by 5G thing. Is it true? I don't know that it is. And if it was true - there was no big outbreak of illness in Wuhan. There were a few people who suffered from severe pneumonia in a city with poor air quality. And then there was the propaganda videos. In the end though, Wuhan never had the big spike in illness and death. Why not, if it was the first city to be blaneketd in 5G and 5G causes pneumonia?
Cowan doesn't bring up how many (all?) of the people we are told that died from "Covid" actually died from the crazy treatments they were given to try and fight a fake novel "virus". No one was given known, effective treatments because doctors were told from the start that the usual treatments for pneumonia (covid is pnemonia BTW) would not work because they only work for pneumonia casued by known viruses, not this new virus. So they were given some of the most toxic experimental cocktails of antibiotics and other strong drugs ever given, often in over dose amounts, placed on respirators that have a tiny long term survival rate etc etc.
Why doesn't Doctor Cowan mention how perhaps a vast majority of the people we are told died from covid were actually murdered by their doctors?
The point that matters is the slippery slope fallacy that if one topic (FE) is banned, which has a whole .win devoted to that topic, that other topics will follow suit in reddit power tripping Marxist mod fashion.
Don't get distracted by oh look a squirrel!
This one topic, FE, is a kookifying distraction away from the intended purpose of this .win. Removing it simply allows for its stated purpose. (At least in theory)
Please do and link it here. Before we go any further.
Link the comment.
Before we get into that, let's see the comment. How long did you spend scrolling for it when you saw it? it can't be that far back, since I haven't been commenting a lot lately except for the FE post. You could also search my user name and some of the words you remember from the comment. Come on now, where are your excellent research skillz gone?
Sure lets make this just like r/conspiracy with a bunch of loser mods and crybabies running the show. WEAK
The name of the community can't be changed. A bit like how post titles can't be changed.
Sounds like a conspiracy to me! We know you can really change it anytime you want because it's surrounded by an ice wall /s
Oh boy, I look forward to narrative-approved conspiracy discussions! Remember, wrong think is a bannable offense, and I don't want to think wrong! After all, I'm a child who can't think for myself and need mods like u/clemaneuverers to tell me what is true and not true. It's just so obvious!
Wrong think has nothing to do with it. There's a whole .win devoted to this one topic FE) so censorship doesn't pertain. It's purely about dead end conversations that always become abusive / uncivil, and further are frustratingly irrational. That's your domain ...
Do you smoke a lot of cannabis?
He’s into catnip I hear
No, just once a week on average. Burn many books lately?
No, I've never burnt a book, and yes, I will certainly help you out any time you are having trouble discerning reality from fantasy, if you want such help. I know it can be tricky. Ping me if you are unsure.