interseting write up regarding the Shroud of Turin.
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Found this interesting. thought others might, too.
This video convinced me it's legitimate and was often shared along with that image when posted on /pol
Evidence for the shroud of Christ
The only way it could have been a medieval forgery was for them to have obtained an authentic cloth from around 33ad and have full knowledge of the exact way a scourging and crucifixion was carried out and then killed a man in an extremely specific way. And then have some way to produce the actual image using the body of a man to create the bloodstains... then they'd have to remove the cloth and do whatever process to produce the image and get the cloth put back on perfectly in alignment.
If such technology existed to produce the image so perfectly... there would have been more practice attempts circulating and potentially others discovering the method and then using it for commercial purposes. We don't even have a viable method that could produce the image. They'd have to have predicted technology far surpassing would could have been understood by humans at the time.
So either the shroud is a paranormal phenomenon, or was made by someone who could see the future.
I'd like to see independent verification that blood samples taken from multiple purported Jesus relics all were actually AB-. That's pretty telling, at least as to the authenticity of those objects.
Samples from Eucharistic miracles show type AB blood from heart tissue.
https://aleteia.org/2017/06/15/4-incredible-eucharistic-miracles-that-defy-scientific-explanation/
Did the Pope post this?
the popeanon posts are pretty fascinating
There was some new evidence recently
https://youtu.be/vtIZrc5fGEE
Even the Jewish scientist on the case came to believe it was authentic , he has a lot of info on youtube https://youtu.be/AyRU-0uH2rw
The Shroud also matches the Sudarium cloth
https://youtu.be/DSoVGFfri64
We live in strange times. I had always believed it was a fake and hadn't looked into the science.
Turns out it is authentic and can't be understood nor replicated.
I've never read the Bible, so I don't know what their official cause of death is. But part of dying on a cross /from a bad beating is heart failure.
Around the same time I came across the Shroud info, I investigated the bloody hosts/eucharist miracles, which is where the white bread that Catholocs eat literally turns into flesh and blood and has been scientifically examined.
The various miracles all have stuff in common - heart tissue, white blood cells that is still living / dead, evidence of trauma / physical beatings, AB blood type, etc.
It really confused independent labs because they thought they were looking at a murder but it was just the bread.
After studying the eucharist, some scientists converted because it is scientifically impossible yet still exists.
And now we have a vaccine that causes heart damage and heart attacks.
I don't know what it means, but for ages there has been a religious focus on the sacred blood of Jesus, the sacred heart of mary, all about the heart.
Here is a podcast, I think by a protestant with a priest talking about the shroud. Tons of good info.
https://www.youtube.com/live/HAbuG-oVq1Q
Basically, the shroud is one of a kind and does not show that the body ever corrupted or decayed.
Apparently the veil of Veronica and the Divine Mercy painting of Jesus face also match. https://discovermercy.github.io/
History youtuber Metatron recently did a deep dive on the Shroud too, and surprisingly ends up showing how it could be real:
https://youtu.be/tAQQhBnCVQs
It has been debunked as a hoax. It also contains a woman's dna. Or that of far more recent carbon dating. It is a hoax.
An inquisition victim. Possibly a woman or so was thought. But the carbon dating puts it a few centuries old.
It has always been a hoax for decades.
They chose to carbon date a piece that was patched... So not the actual original shroud fabric. Which was convenient for atheism Inc
No. The spatter analyst same CSI use today is wrong. Read the press. It suggest it was imprinted, painted. Where is the spatter from the spear of destiny. The spear to his gut which killed him.
Why would a piece of it be amended? Because of contamination. But it was also sent for further dating. Where some dating claims it's far older than Christ, 3k years ago. Although most puts it around the 1300s. The other anomaly is the embalming herbs, plant residue mixed into the blood, some of these plant compounds are on species that don't exist regionally, from North America and Africa.
It is an elaborate hoax. Where indeed was the body.
IIRC it was tested in the 80s. The church wasn't happy with the results so they have refused further testing and continue arguing the tests were flawed while refusing further studies.
The fact they hide the thing tells us all we need to know.
No it was debunked. As either an inquisition victim possibly female dna. Or a dead crusader. The carbon dating is massively out putting it in the 13 or 1400s.
It emphatically is nothing else. After it had been debunked look it up, those hits. I am sure your story holds merit, the church didn't want anybody undermining it. Because to the believer it only wanted validity of which there was none.
> No it was debunked. As either an inquisition victim possibly female dna. Or a dead crusader. The carbon dating is massively out putting it in the 13 or 1400s.
addressed in screencap
What was debunked. The debunk wasn't debunked. Hence no more debunking. You has faith.
Let's suggest it was Jesus than he didn't resurrect either. Big problem.
But I do believe it was debunked. I read this years ago. Carbon dating out. Forget which DNA. Years ago. I haven't bothered to link. But I can to refresh my memory if you need this info.
> What was debunked.
addressed in the screencap.
https://www.livescience.com/63093-shroud-of-turin-is-fake-bloodstains.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turin-shroud-latest-fake-forgery-scientific-blood-pattern-spatter-study-carbon-dating-debunked-a8450101.html
https://www.ufoinsight.com/conspiracy/historical/turin-shroud-jacques-de-molay
https://www.history.com/news/shroud-turin-forensic-study-not-jesus-burial-cloth
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/17/the-1m-challenge-if-the-turin-shroud-is-a-forgery-show-how-it-was-done
Good okay thanks. Dunno why thought was woman. Dunno what that was about maybe Joan of Arc. Something. Another mythological tale. Perhaps