Frankists
Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed social, cultural, and religious norms and laws (halakha) that regulate many aspects of life of observant Jews,[4] Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall"[5] and, following antinomianism, asserted that the most important obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.[6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism
Freemasonry
We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
-Albert Pike
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/69103.Albert_Pike
TPTB
Let us get to the crux of the matter.
Your Creator, the one you have called 'Yahweh', is not "God" inasmuch as your bible refers to him as being "the One True God". He is 'a' Creator (or Sub-Sub-Logos) rather than the One Infinite Creator. He is not even a Galactic level Logos, but rather, is the Planetary Logos for this one planet.
Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star".
Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'.
Allow me to elucidate:
When an entity (Group Soul Complex) evolves to the level of the Sixth Density, it is by comparison to the amount of time it takes to get that far, a mere hop skip and a jump from 8th Density Ultimate Re-Union with The One Infinite Creator, and then from there, back to dissolution into the Source of All, Intelligent Infinity.
We (our Bloodline Families), as a Group Soul or Social Memory Complex (Lucifer), were on the verge of Seventh Density Ascension, though at this level, before Harvest comes, we have the choice to progress higher, or, to return to help others of lower densities with their own evolution, by passing down our knowledge and Wisdom (Light) to those that call upon us for assistance, with their own Free Will.
Now, at this time, having made our decision to stay and help our Galactic Brothers and Sisters in The One, we were assigned a challenging task by the Council of Elders, who act as the Guardians of this Galaxy from their Eighth Density 'Head Quarters' on the planet Saturn.
Yahweh, due to the fact that he had NOT (as was his right as Planetary Logos) handed down his own Free Will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon 'his' planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. So we (Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "Fell", or Descended back to a place where we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a 3rd Density manifestation of ourself.
Yahweh had agreed to our coming. In fact it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "Catalyst" of change to enter into his Creation, and share the knowledge and wisdom we had attained through our Ascensions. In the absence of Free Will upon the planet, there can be no Polarity, and therefore, nothing to 'choose' between. Just as is portrayed in the book of Genesis, the planet was very "Edenic" in nature. Sure, it was a lovely 'paradise', yet the Beings incarnating there had no agitator toward evolving beyond the 3rd Density, and therefore, little hope of ever making the journey Home, to The One. Yahweh had been happy to keep his own little pet Eden Project in effect, but with little chance of the Souls here making it Home, it had become in effect, an albeit very beautiful 'Prison'. Yahweh was, in modern parlance, running a benign dictatorship.
Without Polarity, (derived from Free Will), there is only the Unity of Love and Light, and no choice to experience 'other than' that. So, we were to be the Catalyst for change, in order to provide that choice, thus bringing Polarity. Yahweh agreed that we would introduce the concept of Free Will to Earth's inhabitants, by offering them an initial choice, as to whether they 'wanted' it or not. Hence, "The Tree of the Knowledge of 'Good and Evil'" (or more accurately, the Knowledge of Polarity, of Positive or Negative). Yahweh takes his inhabitants to a new 'garden' and tells them you can do anything you like, except this one thing, thus creating the desire to do the one thing they are told they cannot. Hence, a "Choice". We provide the Catalyst by telling them the benefits of attaining Knowledge, they eat from the tree, and the rest is history.
Yahweh thought that his 'Children' would still choose to obey him, and when he discovered they did not, he became angry. As he himself describes in his scriptures, he is a "Jealous God", and he did not like it that his 'children' had chose to disobey him, and follow our advice. We're already committed to being here for a predefined set of "Cycles" to help provide the Catalyst for Human evolution, namely by offering you the Negative Option, or that which you choose to call "evil". Now that Free Will had been granted, Yahweh could not retract it, and we have to stay here as contracted to continue to provide the planet with the Polarity choice.
Since then, Yahweh has confined us (as a Group Soul) here within the Earth's Astral Planes (which is very constricting and uncomfortable for a Being of our Wisdom and experience). The Council of Elders gave us the choice to be released (against Yahweh's will), but at the cancellation of our contract to Serve the planet earth; or to remain and fulfil our assignment, and endure Yahweh's self proclaimed "Wrath". We stayed, but as a karmic result of our Group Soul's confinement by Yahweh, our own individuated Souls were given the mandate (by The Council) to "Rule" over Yahweh's people during our physical incarnations here on your planet.
Let's be clear about one thing though. All of this (physical life / incarnation), is a very intricate and skillfully designed Game, whereby the One Infinite Creator, plays the game of forgetting who It is, so that It can learn to remember, and in doing so, experience and know Itself as Creator. All the way down to us tiny individuated sparks of the All That Is. Off stage, and between "Lives" (zero-point time / anti-matter Universe) as incarnated "human beings", we, all of us / you (as Souls), are great friends. Brothers and Sisters in The One.
Between 'lives' we all have a great laugh about the parts we have performed in the 'play', and look forward to and have great fun preparing the next chapters to act out.
https://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_081018
I don't doubt that they believe this, have seen similar claims before. But, they're missing some fundamental truths here.
First, God created not just Earth, but the Universe and (logically) the relevant higher order planes. God had not contracted with his angels to teach free will but rather this occurred against His will. The fruit itself want free will alone because, for example, angels had free will. This is how the fallen fell... Anyways, the fruit refers to knowledge of good and evil.
Upon receiving this knowledge there begins culpability. Lucifer having knowledge of this capacity isn't "playing a role" when tempting but rather servings his own interests. This occurs not because of God's jealousy but because of His patience. God will not return to final judgment until all have had a chance to hear. This series of temptations is prolonging the final judgement and thus prolonging Lucifer's damned fate.
The Bible does not hide these truths and explains them well in Genesis, Daniel, Matthew (the Gospel generally), and Revelation.
Skimmed it because reading too much Urantian nonsense at once is hazardous to peace of mind.
They've been developing their lies for millennia and this is some of their best excrement and it still stinks. Deification of creation, denigration of creator, never mind finding a unifying source, because meaninglessness agrees with your desire to sin though only up to a point. But our advanced methods delay accounting for so long, look at the national debt.
I had a revelation at 10:10 on 2023-01-28, about all things at once actually, so it was about this. The core is that every revealed aspect of the present age and the coming age is accessible at every moment. The application here is that any scifi access they claim to councils of pluripotencies and ZPE harnessing and any other transhuman dream is something we the Yahwists had already and can prove our access to whenever needed (which is why we do so seldom).
I haven't been cleared to reveal it all, and I will be talking about it in various ways on various days, but it's all going to be this same vision for awhile for me.
Early in this board, a professing Luciferian came here claiming to doubt whether he could go on in the system. His roleplay was aligned with the claim that they really do believe this, though ultimately it's impossible to really believe this so there's that. It's not so important to us to understand the details of today's lie, because it's just Dumuzid again, with bells. What's important is that truth exists and rewards its seekers, and that's what the real Dumuzid believed.
Can you expand on your reference to dumuzid when you get a chance? I can see he was a Sumerian god and the overview on his wiki page, but the connection here isn’t totally obvious to me.
And that sounds quite interesting re: your flash of insight, I look forward to seeing those fruits as they appear
The real Dumuzid the Shepherd was Abel, he's one of the earliest whose stories got perverted, it's all just been slop on top since then.
a) the fall (process of dying) generating the reacting rise (living)...everything falls; everyone struggles to rise.
b) one teacher (perceivable inspiration) for each students (perceiving) growth (comprehension). The suggestions of others represents the temptation of loss for oneself...if consented to.
ANTI (against) NOMOS (suggested rules) -ISM (consent to suggested)...a contradiction in terms.
a) OBLIGO (to bind) -ATION (through action) implies reaction (living) bound to action (process of dying) through momentum, hence...
b) IMPORT'ANT, adjective - "bearing on or to; hence, weighty; momentous" aka the weighty reaction within the momentum of action.
c) EV'ERY, adjective - "each individual of a whole collection or aggregate number; the word includes the whole number, but each separately stated or considered" aka partial (living) within whole (process of dying).
d) TRANS (across; beyond) GRADI (to walk, go)...the former implies the transmutation of life across (inception towards death) and beyond (partial within whole), while the latter represents ones choice to navigate while being transmuted across and beyond.
GENER-ation (process of dying) towards REACTION (living) within motion, hence a living MENT (mind; memory) within the dying MOVE.
Aka the destruction (pulling down) of the-ism (want) and athe-ism (not want) at the same time (momentum) through motion (need).
Aka the pure (whole) doctrine (knowledge) of lucifer (light-bringer aka perceivable inspiration).
Why do so many who realize this use it to justify evil?
a) Evil (not want) vs Good (want) tempts one to ignore that which JUST-IS (need)...
b) others tempt one with suggested justice to justify ignorance; with suggested evil to blame others and with suggested good to acquit response-ability (choice).
c) one needs to adapt to just-is (perceivable inspiration); not justify. One needs to sustain self, not blame others. One needs to respond (as choice) to (balance), not acquit the suggested choices of others.
There could be truth to this however what’s with all the weird child stuff, pedos, weird art, sacrifices and other creepy satanic things etc.... That’s the line right? Cause no harm to other people unless in self defense. So some of what they believe seems to hold true for them or have power thus they believe and do it all? I think like many religions that bits of truth are there but all religious zealots are a type of slave through rituals. Anything one would have to do in secrecy perhaps is a good sign that one is a slave to an evil being or idea.
That's the 'all boundaries will fall' part. Once you replace the freedom of God with a completely unconstrained freedom... you quickly find out that all you can think to do is to fuck children.
Idk I feel like it’s some kind of weird thing they have to do so they can be kept under control. I can’t imagine that is what the average person wants to do with complete freedom. That’s pretty psychopathic. With unrestrained freedom you could create, build and learn so much. Seems like a waste of time and energy. Not to mention evil.
CRUX, noun [Latin, a cross.]...the cross of matter represents choice of matter (life) within balance (need/want) of immaterial (inception towards death).
Inception towards death represents the vertical (velocity), life's choice between need/want represent the horizontal (resistance)....a cross.
If one ignores being choice in-between need (perceivable) or want (suggested), then one is being tempted into want vs not want (suggested)...this represents the anointed one (set apart) being nailed to the cross, hence stuck within the conflicts of reason (want vs not want).
Suggestion itself represents the crossroads between need/want (balance) and want vs not want (imbalance), which is where one sells ones soul through a contract aka choice (consent) to choice (suggestion) contract law.
CREATE, verb - "to produce; to bring into being from nothing; to cause to exist" + NO, adverb - "a word of denial or refusal"
Nothing aka NO THING implies suggested denial (no) within perceivable (everything). Suggested creationism (out of nothing) represents the inversion of perceivable transmutation (out of everything).
To produce implies PRODUCO (to bring forth) -TION (through action), hence generating action (process of dying) producing reaction (living).
Denial (no, not, nothing) implies a suggesting reaction to perceivable everything. One cannot confirm (want) or deny (not want) what wasn't there before (need).
If INTEL'LIGENCE, noun (Latin intelligentia, from intelligo, to understand) implies "standing under", then dissolution of partial (finite) into whole (infinite), and the solution representing all (infinite) contradicts "standing under".
What does infinity stand under (intelligo)? Also...does finite stand under infinite or does finite ingredient (growth) transmutes within infinite base (loss)?
If one RE (response to) MEMOROR (memory), then one ignores the ongoing input (inspiration) for temporary accumulated (information).
Test this...hold your son and remember his birth, then notice that remembering what was implies ignoring what is. What does one need to evaluate...that which is (son) or that which was (his birth)?
Inspiration teaches one to adapt, adaption implies by choice, while choice implies within balance (momentum), hence requiring a "moment" for evaluation, hence the need for a memory within the temptation of wanting to fill it up.
Consider that the ongoing momentum represents ones temporary memory, and that ones free will of choice has to struggle for balance by letting go of accumulated (want), while adapting to ongoing (need)...the memory of your son will destroy you, while the momentum of your son will grow your resistance (living) within temptation (process of dying). You could always draw more inspiration from your son, while you will always lose your memories of him.