Nothing about this is as reported. The Orthodox church split over the war in 2019. One is still connected to Moscow, and has been aiding Russian soldiers.
The Orthodox church of Ukraine that split isn't persecuted at all. This isn't about religion, but war.
The Orthodox church of Ukraine that split isn't persecuted at all.
Bullshit. Kiev Patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church, that separated from Moscow patriarchate of Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 1992 (not in 2019) in the split you talk about, was shut down by Ukrainian government headed by Zelensky at December 13 2019 in the hope to force people to move to completely artificial state created "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" that barely had few percents of christians as parisioners,
This "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" was never accepted by any other Orthodox Church and accounted as heretics by them, because this "Orthidox Church" switched to Gregorian calendar and denounced contradictions with Catholics. There was other ecumenic shit also, and any of that shit make impossible to account that "Church" as Orthodox.
"Orthodox Church of Ukraine" will be never accepted in Orthodox world. It even don't have any apostol succession to be named a Christian Church, not talking about multiple heresies that make it obviously non Orthodox.
Kiev Patriarchate was not officially recognized among Orthodox Churches, but it had some relations with some of them and their sacraments was accepted in other Orthodox Churches. Kiev Patriarchate changed nothing except declaring indpendence from Moscow patriarchate, so from the terms of faith, it was Orthodox Church, unlike "Orthodox Church of Ukraine".
Kiev patriarchate and Moscow patriarchate parisioners was 50% of population in equal parts of 25%. Kiev patriarchate parisioners lived mostly on West Ukraine, Moscow patriarchate parisioners lived mostly on East. Next church by amount of parisioner was Ukrainian Greec-Catholic Church with something near 15% of population.
So, half of Ukraine population was Orthodox. Both Orthodox Churches does not exist now. Kev patriarchate was shut down in 2019, Moscow patriarchate was banned in 2023.
There is no any real Orthodox Church in Ukraine now. 50% of population was denied of their Orthodox faith by jews in Ukraine government.
Bullshit. Kiev Patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church, that separated from Moscow patriarchate of Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 1992 (not in 2019) in the split you talk about,
No, I talk about the split in 2019 which is why I specified that. I might still get the names wrong, it's very confusing.
No, I talk about the split in 2019 which is why I specified that
There was no any split in 2019. In 2019 Kiev patriarchate (independent from Moscow patriarchate since 1992) Ukrainian Orthodox Church was shut down by Zelensky government and its property was forcefully transferred by civilian court order to fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine".
There was two Orthodox Churches in Ukraine before 2019 - Moscow patriarchate and Kiev patriarchate. There was no any other Orthodox Churches in Ukraine at all.
Moscow patriarchate existed without any splits until was banned in 2023. It had 25% of population as parisioners.
So, Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church is the only church you could talk about. It had another 25% of Ukraine population as parisioners. But it didn't split too. It was shut down in 2019, not split.
There was no any other Orthodox churches in Ukraine at all. Some citizens was parisioners of Hungarian Orthodox Church or Romanian Orthodox Church, by ethnicity and ties to their respective motherlands.
There was fake organisation created by government named "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" that perverted nearly every basic thing in Orthodox faith, without any significant number of members. This organisation received all property that belonged to Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church after it was shut down in 2019 by Zelensky.
JFYI: Being schoolboy, during one of summer vacations I was baptised in Ukrainian Orthodox Church (only Moscow patriarchate existed at the time) by my far relatives who live in Ukraine, Yes, it was Soviet times and I had absolutely no problems with that, being member of Pioneers state communist organisation for mid-schoolchildren and so on. So, I'm not just some side observer, I have direct Spirit connection to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, so it is literally my duty to be aware of what is really happening with my spirit home. Hopefully, that small church where I was baptised was not destroyed by Kiev regime shelling yet, and seems they will not be able to do that anymore.
Orthodox Church of Ukraine" will be never accepted in Orthodox world. It even don't have any apostol succession to be named a Christian Church
That's not true, I've read list of ordination.
As an old calendarist you falsely associate a calendar with subservience to the pope, so it's impossible to tell what else you get wrong based on flesh rather than Spirit.
There is no list of ordination for "Orthodox Church of Ukraine". You must be read list of ordination of Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church that was shut down by Zelensky in 2019. It is possible, that some servile pastors who had apostole succession in Kiev patriarchate sold their souls and moved to fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine", but that just means only that they become heretics and lost their succession.
Again, "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" had a miserable amount of parisioners, mostly from state bureaucrats before 2019. In 2019 Kiev patriarchate of Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which had a 25% of population as parisioners was shut down and their assets was forcefully transferred by civilian government to miserable and fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" created by state. Most priests from Kiev patriarchate moved to Moscow patriarchate, resignated or turn to "civil divine service" for their parisioners.
As an old calendarist you falsely associate a calendar with subservience to the pope,
Except that I do not.
Julian calendar is used by Orthodox Churches for the purpose. Orthodox Easter should always be after jewish Pesakh. It is very important in Spirit sense. Changing calendar to Gregorian break that rule, making changes to the core of faith. That have nothing to do with subservience to the pope. It is a separate issue, and even only that issue is enough to not accept such church as Orthodox.
Subservience to pope is an additional issue, among many others.
so it's impossible to tell what else you get wrong based on flesh rather than Spirit.
Every single difference of "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" from real Orthodoxy is based exactly on Spirit and intentionally was implemented in that fake church to destroy the Spirit of Orthodoxy.
Nothing about this is as reported. The Orthodox church split over the war in 2019. One is still connected to Moscow, and has been aiding Russian soldiers.
The Orthodox church of Ukraine that split isn't persecuted at all. This isn't about religion, but war.
Bullshit. Kiev Patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church, that separated from Moscow patriarchate of Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 1992 (not in 2019) in the split you talk about, was shut down by Ukrainian government headed by Zelensky at December 13 2019 in the hope to force people to move to completely artificial state created "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" that barely had few percents of christians as parisioners,
This "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" was never accepted by any other Orthodox Church and accounted as heretics by them, because this "Orthidox Church" switched to Gregorian calendar and denounced contradictions with Catholics. There was other ecumenic shit also, and any of that shit make impossible to account that "Church" as Orthodox.
"Orthodox Church of Ukraine" will be never accepted in Orthodox world. It even don't have any apostol succession to be named a Christian Church, not talking about multiple heresies that make it obviously non Orthodox.
Kiev Patriarchate was not officially recognized among Orthodox Churches, but it had some relations with some of them and their sacraments was accepted in other Orthodox Churches. Kiev Patriarchate changed nothing except declaring indpendence from Moscow patriarchate, so from the terms of faith, it was Orthodox Church, unlike "Orthodox Church of Ukraine".
Kiev patriarchate and Moscow patriarchate parisioners was 50% of population in equal parts of 25%. Kiev patriarchate parisioners lived mostly on West Ukraine, Moscow patriarchate parisioners lived mostly on East. Next church by amount of parisioner was Ukrainian Greec-Catholic Church with something near 15% of population.
So, half of Ukraine population was Orthodox. Both Orthodox Churches does not exist now. Kev patriarchate was shut down in 2019, Moscow patriarchate was banned in 2023.
There is no any real Orthodox Church in Ukraine now. 50% of population was denied of their Orthodox faith by jews in Ukraine government.
No, I talk about the split in 2019 which is why I specified that. I might still get the names wrong, it's very confusing.
This isn't religious persecution, it's war.
There was no any split in 2019. In 2019 Kiev patriarchate (independent from Moscow patriarchate since 1992) Ukrainian Orthodox Church was shut down by Zelensky government and its property was forcefully transferred by civilian court order to fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine".
There was two Orthodox Churches in Ukraine before 2019 - Moscow patriarchate and Kiev patriarchate. There was no any other Orthodox Churches in Ukraine at all.
Moscow patriarchate existed without any splits until was banned in 2023. It had 25% of population as parisioners.
So, Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church is the only church you could talk about. It had another 25% of Ukraine population as parisioners. But it didn't split too. It was shut down in 2019, not split.
There was no any other Orthodox churches in Ukraine at all. Some citizens was parisioners of Hungarian Orthodox Church or Romanian Orthodox Church, by ethnicity and ties to their respective motherlands.
There was fake organisation created by government named "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" that perverted nearly every basic thing in Orthodox faith, without any significant number of members. This organisation received all property that belonged to Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church after it was shut down in 2019 by Zelensky.
JFYI: Being schoolboy, during one of summer vacations I was baptised in Ukrainian Orthodox Church (only Moscow patriarchate existed at the time) by my far relatives who live in Ukraine, Yes, it was Soviet times and I had absolutely no problems with that, being member of Pioneers state communist organisation for mid-schoolchildren and so on. So, I'm not just some side observer, I have direct Spirit connection to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, so it is literally my duty to be aware of what is really happening with my spirit home. Hopefully, that small church where I was baptised was not destroyed by Kiev regime shelling yet, and seems they will not be able to do that anymore.
That's not true, I've read list of ordination.
As an old calendarist you falsely associate a calendar with subservience to the pope, so it's impossible to tell what else you get wrong based on flesh rather than Spirit.
There is no list of ordination for "Orthodox Church of Ukraine". You must be read list of ordination of Kiev patriarchate Ukrainian Orthodox Church that was shut down by Zelensky in 2019. It is possible, that some servile pastors who had apostole succession in Kiev patriarchate sold their souls and moved to fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine", but that just means only that they become heretics and lost their succession.
Again, "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" had a miserable amount of parisioners, mostly from state bureaucrats before 2019. In 2019 Kiev patriarchate of Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which had a 25% of population as parisioners was shut down and their assets was forcefully transferred by civilian government to miserable and fake "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" created by state. Most priests from Kiev patriarchate moved to Moscow patriarchate, resignated or turn to "civil divine service" for their parisioners.
Except that I do not.
Julian calendar is used by Orthodox Churches for the purpose. Orthodox Easter should always be after jewish Pesakh. It is very important in Spirit sense. Changing calendar to Gregorian break that rule, making changes to the core of faith. That have nothing to do with subservience to the pope. It is a separate issue, and even only that issue is enough to not accept such church as Orthodox.
Subservience to pope is an additional issue, among many others.
Every single difference of "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" from real Orthodoxy is based exactly on Spirit and intentionally was implemented in that fake church to destroy the Spirit of Orthodoxy.