There are diverse beings with different levels of frequency / vibration that have managed to enter a human body and Earth is the meeting point. Since we all have free will, we have chosen to be here and mingle and possibly help these beings elevate their vibes/learn lessons to help them with that task. If one does not want to engage with them directly that is possible by keeping a very high frequency in this way law of attraction (one creates his/her own reality based on his/her thoughts, actions and words) will apply accordingly. From what Steiner is saying he seems to not want to help these children improve their level of consciousness, or he feels helpless. I've never heard Maria Montessori complain about such things in the educational realm. Also, I think what he is referring to is what we now call psychopaths.
There is the core esoteric philosophy (Steiner and the inner circle), and the schools such as Waldorf and Montessori are almost viewed as normies. They are the exoteric daughter circles. If they drift too far away from their original core esoteric, then the schools or organizations just become part of the crowd and lose the special spark. Either way, I'm not surprised the schools, which applied the philosophies were unaware of their full beliefs. Both are necessary.
Steiner had a lot of enemies, was a tortured figure, and was probably poisoned.
But, to counter the shills that popped up in this thread (not you, buddy), Steiner was actually quite bright and probably one of the world's experts on Goethe. Goethe was an important genius.
He wrote books on pretty much every topic - from agriculture, architecture, medicine, education, spirituality, etc.
In his view, there are two Adversaries, one a materialistic devil figure and the other a cold emotionless AI type figure, from what I recall.
If the children since the 1890s were noticeably appearing soulless, he and the woman are speculating about how/why it was happening. He thought that perhaps a walk-in spirit (not soul) is using the body as a puppet. Or perhaps not enough souls were incarnating so, for example, a tree energy spirit would go into a human shell. Or a former hornet. These would not have had countless human lifetimes to be... human. They still retain the 'hornet' or 'demon spirit' lack of empathy.
You could definitely be correct that we call them psychopaths. But it is interesting that they noticed the change around the 1890s.
he and the woman are speculating about how/why it was happening.
Maria Montessori is far from esoteric. She was Christian and in her method, writings and teachings she differs hugely from Steiner. I'd say Montessori was rather rational with common human values. To me she also does not appear as somebody who would participate in the occult in any way. At some point in her life Mussolini was her enemy and Gandhi her friend.
The anthroposophical view is that good is found in the balance between two polar influences on world and human evolution.
These are often described through their mythological embodiments as spiritual adversaries which endeavour to tempt and corrupt humanity, Lucifer and his counterpart Ahriman. These have both positive and negative aspects.
Lucifer is the light spirit, which "plays on human pride and offers the delusion of divinity", but also motivates creativity and spirituality; Ahriman is the dark spirit that tempts human beings to "...deny [their] link with divinity and to live entirely on the material plane", but that also stimulates intellectuality and technology.
Both figures exert a negative effect on humanity when their influence becomes misplaced or one-sided, yet their influences are necessary for human freedom to unfold.
Well not sure exactly what he's trying to discuss since he gives no real specifics and keeps everything vague, but I've certainly seen plenty of people with soulless eyes who act more like rabid animals and/or machines, what has always struck me the most are those with an intense malice in their eyes but nothing else, no perceivable intelligence or depth, just malice in a void, and the crazy eyes, so intense yet devoid of anything recognizable as uniquely human, and those with the lifeless eyes who just mindlessly regurgitate what others say but can't explain their words because they have no thoughts of their own, there certainly has to be something to all that
I think his mindless ramblings never had any value.
Those that see value here, need to have their head examined.
It is just more talk of khazarian faith items, complete insanity. All these types of people need to be re-evaluated. Likely re-trained or at least perhaps a lobotomy would clear things up for them and all his entire peer group and all the people connected to him also.
Just because it's over your head doesn't mean it's mindless rambling.
You hear what he said about vaccines? Interesting shit.
" In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a 'healthy point of view', there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit.
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the "madness" of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual.
lol, garbage in garbage out, not over my head, sternly rejected.
This is the demonic crap they have been touting for literally thousands of years, respun with a slightly different package, rendering 'some' people unable to recognize it.
So while you find it interesting, it is the same crap they have been working to do for very long.
Consider the group in the backroom dealing with their material, adjusting modifying evolving it for all this time, some of it gets out, sometimes all of it.
All these lies have already been told, nothing here is new.
Connected to this focus on the human being, is the entire concept of Anthroposophy.
( I think, perhaps, one reason he was uninterested in educating the demonic humans was because he didn't think a Natural earthly spirit could truly study the human condition and human potential. Plus, he believed that animals, like a flock of birds, had a group mind, whereas humans were more individuated
.... so the 'demonic' humans could be seen as NPCs. )
Yes, the wiki bashes him as a racist, nazi, antisemitic and pseudoscientist. Even though he and Hitler had opposing philosophies.
But an interesting take away is the background and focus of study:
Ignaz Troxler used the term anthroposophy to refer to philosophy deepened to self-knowledge, which he suggested allows deeper knowledge of nature as well. He spoke of human nature as a mystical unity of God and world. Immanuel Hermann Fichte used the term anthroposophy to refer to "rigorous human self-knowledge," achievable through thorough comprehension of the human spirit and of the working of God in this spirit, in his 1856 work Anthropology: The Study of the Human Soul. In 1872, the philosopher of religion Gideon Spicker used the term anthroposophy to refer to self-knowledge that would unite God and world: "the true study of the human being is the human being, and philosophy's highest aim is self-knowledge, or Anthroposophy."
Steiner began using the term anthroposophy (i.e. human wisdom as the central point, not the green agenda of today ) as an alternative to the term theosophy (i.e. divine wisdom, with a focus on Eastern mysticism).
The study of human wisdom links the material world with the divine.
Anyway, in his belief, humans and animals both have the etheric spirit/energy but humans went to higher realms. They essentially have eternal life. Whereas the wholly Natural beings, with only an earthly etheric spirit would only have that one life in that particular way. They did not have a soul or eternal life in the manner of real human beings.
Hopefully some of this makes sense. It is a really different philosophy from how we would normally understand the world. And Steiner was a mystic dreamer type, difficult to understand.
I am not saying any of this is true or that I believe it, but his books and lectures can expand your mind, if you let it.
Rudolf Steiner intentionally wrote in a difficult manner, so you will occasionally find yourself reading the same sentence several times in a row and contemplating it for quite a while, before you can understand its meaning. In contrast to the easily digestible online articles we read today, his books are designed to make you think not to make you browse.
First of all, I would recommend the "Philosophy of Freedom." This one is a challenging and very philosophical exercise of the mind. In it you will find an alternative explanation of what it means to be a human being in the world today. In it Rudolf Steiner conscientiously derives the idea, that man can evolve towards freedom. Modern philosophy is mainly based on relativism. There are no ultimate truths, and everyone is subjective to a degree that freedom seems to be impossible. This is the notion that people are merely guided by their instincts and self-interest. Interestingly, when Rudolf Steiner was writing the "Philosophy of Freedom" that was already the prevailing philosophy and essentially this is still the philosophical consesus we have today. That is why this book is so relevant.
u/EnoughOfYourLies calls this "mindless ramblings," which I agree with, until the last sentence – which completely contradicts and undoes everything before it.
"...a number of people are going around who, because they are completely ruthless, have become something that is not human, but are demons in human form."
It's the people who have become the demons; they're not some etheric entity or demon invading the bodies of children, as the first paragraph implies.
There are diverse beings with different levels of frequency / vibration that have managed to enter a human body and Earth is the meeting point. Since we all have free will, we have chosen to be here and mingle and possibly help these beings elevate their vibes/learn lessons to help them with that task. If one does not want to engage with them directly that is possible by keeping a very high frequency in this way law of attraction (one creates his/her own reality based on his/her thoughts, actions and words) will apply accordingly. From what Steiner is saying he seems to not want to help these children improve their level of consciousness, or he feels helpless. I've never heard Maria Montessori complain about such things in the educational realm. Also, I think what he is referring to is what we now call psychopaths.
There is the core esoteric philosophy (Steiner and the inner circle), and the schools such as Waldorf and Montessori are almost viewed as normies. They are the exoteric daughter circles. If they drift too far away from their original core esoteric, then the schools or organizations just become part of the crowd and lose the special spark. Either way, I'm not surprised the schools, which applied the philosophies were unaware of their full beliefs. Both are necessary.
Steiner had a lot of enemies, was a tortured figure, and was probably poisoned.
But, to counter the shills that popped up in this thread (not you, buddy), Steiner was actually quite bright and probably one of the world's experts on Goethe. Goethe was an important genius.
He wrote books on pretty much every topic - from agriculture, architecture, medicine, education, spirituality, etc.
In his view, there are two Adversaries, one a materialistic devil figure and the other a cold emotionless AI type figure, from what I recall.
If the children since the 1890s were noticeably appearing soulless, he and the woman are speculating about how/why it was happening. He thought that perhaps a walk-in spirit (not soul) is using the body as a puppet. Or perhaps not enough souls were incarnating so, for example, a tree energy spirit would go into a human shell. Or a former hornet. These would not have had countless human lifetimes to be... human. They still retain the 'hornet' or 'demon spirit' lack of empathy.
You could definitely be correct that we call them psychopaths. But it is interesting that they noticed the change around the 1890s.
Maria Montessori is far from esoteric. She was Christian and in her method, writings and teachings she differs hugely from Steiner. I'd say Montessori was rather rational with common human values. To me she also does not appear as somebody who would participate in the occult in any way. At some point in her life Mussolini was her enemy and Gandhi her friend.
My mistake, the two Adversaries are:
Chirst is the middle way.
Well not sure exactly what he's trying to discuss since he gives no real specifics and keeps everything vague, but I've certainly seen plenty of people with soulless eyes who act more like rabid animals and/or machines, what has always struck me the most are those with an intense malice in their eyes but nothing else, no perceivable intelligence or depth, just malice in a void, and the crazy eyes, so intense yet devoid of anything recognizable as uniquely human, and those with the lifeless eyes who just mindlessly regurgitate what others say but can't explain their words because they have no thoughts of their own, there certainly has to be something to all that
I think his mindless ramblings never had any value. Those that see value here, need to have their head examined.
It is just more talk of khazarian faith items, complete insanity. All these types of people need to be re-evaluated. Likely re-trained or at least perhaps a lobotomy would clear things up for them and all his entire peer group and all the people connected to him also.
Just because it's over your head doesn't mean it's mindless rambling.
You hear what he said about vaccines? Interesting shit.
lol, garbage in garbage out, not over my head, sternly rejected.
This is the demonic crap they have been touting for literally thousands of years, respun with a slightly different package, rendering 'some' people unable to recognize it.
So while you find it interesting, it is the same crap they have been working to do for very long.
Consider the group in the backroom dealing with their material, adjusting modifying evolving it for all this time, some of it gets out, sometimes all of it.
All these lies have already been told, nothing here is new.
Connected to this focus on the human being, is the entire concept of Anthroposophy.
( I think, perhaps, one reason he was uninterested in educating the demonic humans was because he didn't think a Natural earthly spirit could truly study the human condition and human potential. Plus, he believed that animals, like a flock of birds, had a group mind, whereas humans were more individuated .... so the 'demonic' humans could be seen as NPCs. )
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy
Yes, the wiki bashes him as a racist, nazi, antisemitic and pseudoscientist. Even though he and Hitler had opposing philosophies.
But an interesting take away is the background and focus of study:
Ignaz Troxler used the term anthroposophy to refer to philosophy deepened to self-knowledge, which he suggested allows deeper knowledge of nature as well. He spoke of human nature as a mystical unity of God and world. Immanuel Hermann Fichte used the term anthroposophy to refer to "rigorous human self-knowledge," achievable through thorough comprehension of the human spirit and of the working of God in this spirit, in his 1856 work Anthropology: The Study of the Human Soul. In 1872, the philosopher of religion Gideon Spicker used the term anthroposophy to refer to self-knowledge that would unite God and world: "the true study of the human being is the human being, and philosophy's highest aim is self-knowledge, or Anthroposophy."
Steiner began using the term anthroposophy (i.e. human wisdom as the central point, not the green agenda of today ) as an alternative to the term theosophy (i.e. divine wisdom, with a focus on Eastern mysticism).
The study of human wisdom links the material world with the divine.
Anyway, in his belief, humans and animals both have the etheric spirit/energy but humans went to higher realms. They essentially have eternal life. Whereas the wholly Natural beings, with only an earthly etheric spirit would only have that one life in that particular way. They did not have a soul or eternal life in the manner of real human beings.
Hopefully some of this makes sense. It is a really different philosophy from how we would normally understand the world. And Steiner was a mystic dreamer type, difficult to understand.
I am not saying any of this is true or that I believe it, but his books and lectures can expand your mind, if you let it.
Here is a bit about him, and the era he lived in, so as to better understand why he spoke that way. Steiner was a well respected and honored scholar before he started talking about spirituality. https://www.amazon.com/Rudolf-Steiner/e/B001H9XG9A/ref=aufs_dp_mata_mbl
u/EnoughOfYourLies calls this "mindless ramblings," which I agree with, until the last sentence – which completely contradicts and undoes everything before it.
"...a number of people are going around who, because they are completely ruthless, have become something that is not human, but are demons in human form."
It's the people who have become the demons; they're not some etheric entity or demon invading the bodies of children, as the first paragraph implies.
I was mindlessly using someone else's word, so agreed.