No, normies are not able to detect any of this. This lack of ability is, in fact, what makes them normies.
Here's a simple test you can try on both the awakened and normies, and even yourself. Ask the question: "No right or wrong answer. In your judgement and your judgement alone, have you ever been subjected to any form of brainwashing?"
I think anyone reading this would say something like, "Oh, well, only every time I turn on mainstream media or watch a movie or read a news article, or through all my public schooling, or any time I browse social media. So I would say yes."
Now ask a normie, and observe them closely.
They won't say yes and they won't say no. They'll dance around the question, never giving a simple, direct answer. They couldn't possibly misunderstand it, but even if they did they don't ask you to clarify. They don't--or I would say can't--engage with the issue to any extent whatsoever.
I believe that in an animalistic behavioral reaction, they feel they're walking into some sort of trap and will avoid it at all costs. But their rational faculties won't allow them to ask, "Is this some sort of a trick question?" because the wording makes that impossible. This seems to short-circuit them mentally.
I believe this to be revelatory of a lack of a certain capability in many, many people.
I have encountered this phenomenon, especially in Europeans! You make a comment or ask a question and if the response has not been implanted into them, they seem to go blank and 'system error '.
I have even wondered if they forgot the question.
I believe that in an animalistic behavioral reaction, they feel they're walking into some sort of trap and will avoid it at all costs.
Yes, good point. I will have to reflect on this.
Does this mean that non-normies have a less developed instinctive brain? For survival?
I believe we all start with more or less the same instinctive brain. Then there are some who develop higher reasoning capacity that can overrule the instincts. Then there are some of those who develop an innate moral capacity which can overrule both reasoning and instinct. Each of these levels assumes the capacity is allowed to develop properly, because there's no shortage of ways to fuck up a human being.
Instinct is certainly about survival and reproduction, but when we get to the highest level we find phenomena like altruism. Evolutionist try to explain it away as having something to do with survival of the group or the genome or some such thing. And yes, all individual ants will sacrifice themselves to save the colony, but when we get to humans that's quite rare. It should be the opposite, right?
I believe that, yes, normies have always been like this. There is quite a body of evidence to support this, but virtually all of it is either missed, ignored, or misinterpreted by the mainstream (some of that on purpose, I'm sure).
If you're a fan of the Bible, I just happened to stumble across quite an old example, again from a passage universally misinterpreted in conventional exegesis:
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I guess we're supposed to think that God just likes to stand around bad-mouthing humans, but that makes no sense to me. Rather, I interpret this to mean that (the vast majority of) humans have neither the higher reasoning nor the innate moral sense to live moral lives in harmony with others. Just before, Yahweh says that they must be treated justly, defended and protected, and now gives the reason that it's because they're in no shape to do it themselves.
I don't know a single person IRL that isn't a normie. (I think I need to get out more.) What I always try to keep in mind is that they're exactly the same people they always were. It's me who has changed, so I've got to do my best to evolve and adapt to that situation. It wouldn't be fair to expect anything of them as they're not "doing it on purpose", and in any case trying to get them to wake up" has proven to be extremely unproductive.
It's turned out to be a blessing of sorts that I've always been a loner, introverted, self-reliant, but I've read so very many stories of people who have suddenly realized that their child or spouse or parent or lover is a normie, or--far worse--that that other person has realized that they were an unhinged conspiracy theorist or MAGA domestic terrorist or science denier or whatever else. These are incredibly heart-breaking tales, and I fear it would have been enough to break me in some way had I been in that situation.
All that being said, it shames me to admit it but yes, I would be disappointed if I had a child who was a normie. I would never under any circumstances bring it up with them, though. I'd let them think I was the kooky, off-beat parent who had a lot of zany ideas and maybe, just maybe, one day they'd think some of the ideas weren't so kooky.
I think part of it might be they are getting what they want from the government, so their minds sink further into obedience. For example, the “sexual revolution”. Just get an abortion. Diseases clearly caused by our crappy food. Just take this pill. You can be “famous” on social media. Just sell your soul to big tech. It’s all an illusion, but it feeds into our depraved desires.
In order to effectively gaslight someone, you have be in a position of authority or wield some other form of power over them. They have to need something vital from you (i.e., sustenance, safety, financial security, community, career advancement, or just love). You can’t walk up to some random stranger on the street and start gaslighting them. They will laugh in your face.
I also looked at articles from based on gaslighting in personal relationships.
There are three tendencies that will pull you into a gaslighting exchange. These tendencies are the need to be right, the need to be understood and the need for approval. Additionally, certain traits, such as being empathic, being a caretaker, needing to see your partner in a positive light, and being a “people pleaser,” will make you more susceptible.
It seems as though over socialized people / some liberals are finely tuned and sensitive, to the current of other people's opinion. It makes them amazing at, well, socializing and spreading ideas. They create discussion groups, they entertain people. They are agreeable, high in empathy, like to be seen as altruistic. Social status is more important to them than truth.
They also seem to lack independence. They are codependent on everyone else for everything. From food, water, shelter, to options and decisions and life direction.
This does seem to correlate with the liberal mind, the liberal values.
So many times I have spoken to normies and they can't answer simple questions or requests until they check with all their friends or 'experts'.
They also don't want to be accountable if the wrong decision is made. So they like to difuse responsibility.
I have watched the most entertaining in-group organizational phrases and ideas that magically forgive them all for their blunders without really accepting blame or responsibility.
This group conformity is also very evident in non- European cultures, but I wonder if there is a different origin for it.
And of course, there is great conformity in small towns (traditionally seem as conservative).
Why would they care. They only care about their status. The same bullshit. In all of them. Ask them anything they're dumber then a sack of shit. But they'll quickly ask Google or Alexa quoting the official narratives, never questioning anything else. Unless it's their football team, where they went on holiday, and what they ate for dinner. Of course you could ask them about their job. It's often racist to talk about this. They'd rather talk about their football team instead. It's all they talk about. Their dumb holiday where they went to watch their football team. The most important thing they learned off any world event was what the nightly news told them. But their favourite song an advert for bullshit is the stuff of such karaoke. Or how omg the latest Lord of the Rings was a giant ass, but then they'll say season 2 will be much better. They have no other functions. None. If you don't relate then there's no communicating to the normie. They have no other buttons. The only way to trigger them is by making them mad. But they're all masochists.
For me, I feel the shifts, when the apparent reality is changing, or perhaps I should say, when I am being gaslit. When the outside culture is pressing on me to change my mind. For a time when I felt this pressing, I didn't know what it was or what they were doing. Maybe normies never felt it before?
I have put a marker in the pre- shift reality, and then shifted to the new reality and watched the formation.
I suspect that the ease of mass brainwashing and gaslighting has been because they succeeded so well in destroying the absolute. Destroying God, destroying definitions. Everything is good and bad. Everything is perspective or opinion or feeling.
In organizations, your truth/reality shifts with the leader's beliefs. With politics.
It seems like people in artificial settings can especially be easily shifted away from an observable reality to a reality that is based externally, not in nature or God, but in the leader or authority.
Perhaps, normies have been used to shifting realities, conforming to the group/authority. And when this rolled out, they were easily moved around.
But then there is the non conformist, the deviants, the disagreeable personality.
I don't know how common it is in society to have changed their reality to one based on their leader. I only have my experiences.
I think this is an above, so below, the personal is political issue.
Because normies don't seem to have a well developed sense of self... or perhaps they lack self esteem? I was helping out this guy, and every day he would promise to do something very small and specific. I would make him give me his word and he would continually break it. He had no sense of shame. There was no sense of dishonor. I don't think he esteemed his honor or word/self high enough to care.
No, normies are not able to detect any of this. This lack of ability is, in fact, what makes them normies.
Here's a simple test you can try on both the awakened and normies, and even yourself. Ask the question: "No right or wrong answer. In your judgement and your judgement alone, have you ever been subjected to any form of brainwashing?"
I think anyone reading this would say something like, "Oh, well, only every time I turn on mainstream media or watch a movie or read a news article, or through all my public schooling, or any time I browse social media. So I would say yes."
Now ask a normie, and observe them closely.
They won't say yes and they won't say no. They'll dance around the question, never giving a simple, direct answer. They couldn't possibly misunderstand it, but even if they did they don't ask you to clarify. They don't--or I would say can't--engage with the issue to any extent whatsoever.
I believe that in an animalistic behavioral reaction, they feel they're walking into some sort of trap and will avoid it at all costs. But their rational faculties won't allow them to ask, "Is this some sort of a trick question?" because the wording makes that impossible. This seems to short-circuit them mentally.
I believe this to be revelatory of a lack of a certain capability in many, many people.
I have encountered this phenomenon, especially in Europeans! You make a comment or ask a question and if the response has not been implanted into them, they seem to go blank and 'system error '.
I have even wondered if they forgot the question.
Yes, good point. I will have to reflect on this.
Does this mean that non-normies have a less developed instinctive brain? For survival?
Have normies always been like this in history?
I believe we all start with more or less the same instinctive brain. Then there are some who develop higher reasoning capacity that can overrule the instincts. Then there are some of those who develop an innate moral capacity which can overrule both reasoning and instinct. Each of these levels assumes the capacity is allowed to develop properly, because there's no shortage of ways to fuck up a human being.
Instinct is certainly about survival and reproduction, but when we get to the highest level we find phenomena like altruism. Evolutionist try to explain it away as having something to do with survival of the group or the genome or some such thing. And yes, all individual ants will sacrifice themselves to save the colony, but when we get to humans that's quite rare. It should be the opposite, right?
I believe that, yes, normies have always been like this. There is quite a body of evidence to support this, but virtually all of it is either missed, ignored, or misinterpreted by the mainstream (some of that on purpose, I'm sure).
If you're a fan of the Bible, I just happened to stumble across quite an old example, again from a passage universally misinterpreted in conventional exegesis:
Psalm 82 (KJV):
I guess we're supposed to think that God just likes to stand around bad-mouthing humans, but that makes no sense to me. Rather, I interpret this to mean that (the vast majority of) humans have neither the higher reasoning nor the innate moral sense to live moral lives in harmony with others. Just before, Yahweh says that they must be treated justly, defended and protected, and now gives the reason that it's because they're in no shape to do it themselves.
Interesting, thank you kindly for your thoughtful comment. Lots to reflect on.
What would you do if you had a kid that turned out to be a normie? Would you be disappointed?
I don't know a single person IRL that isn't a normie. (I think I need to get out more.) What I always try to keep in mind is that they're exactly the same people they always were. It's me who has changed, so I've got to do my best to evolve and adapt to that situation. It wouldn't be fair to expect anything of them as they're not "doing it on purpose", and in any case trying to get them to wake up" has proven to be extremely unproductive.
It's turned out to be a blessing of sorts that I've always been a loner, introverted, self-reliant, but I've read so very many stories of people who have suddenly realized that their child or spouse or parent or lover is a normie, or--far worse--that that other person has realized that they were an unhinged conspiracy theorist or MAGA domestic terrorist or science denier or whatever else. These are incredibly heart-breaking tales, and I fear it would have been enough to break me in some way had I been in that situation.
All that being said, it shames me to admit it but yes, I would be disappointed if I had a child who was a normie. I would never under any circumstances bring it up with them, though. I'd let them think I was the kooky, off-beat parent who had a lot of zany ideas and maybe, just maybe, one day they'd think some of the ideas weren't so kooky.
Very good observations and warnings.
Your comment reminds me to reread Robert Greene
I think part of it might be they are getting what they want from the government, so their minds sink further into obedience. For example, the “sexual revolution”. Just get an abortion. Diseases clearly caused by our crappy food. Just take this pill. You can be “famous” on social media. Just sell your soul to big tech. It’s all an illusion, but it feeds into our depraved desires.
Good observation!
From the article:
I also looked at articles from based on gaslighting in personal relationships.
https://medium.com/@sheaemmafett/10-things-i-wish-i-d-known-about-gaslighting-22234cb5e407
It seems as though over socialized people / some liberals are finely tuned and sensitive, to the current of other people's opinion. It makes them amazing at, well, socializing and spreading ideas. They create discussion groups, they entertain people. They are agreeable, high in empathy, like to be seen as altruistic. Social status is more important to them than truth.
They also seem to lack independence. They are codependent on everyone else for everything. From food, water, shelter, to options and decisions and life direction.
This does seem to correlate with the liberal mind, the liberal values.
So many times I have spoken to normies and they can't answer simple questions or requests until they check with all their friends or 'experts'. They also don't want to be accountable if the wrong decision is made. So they like to difuse responsibility.
I have watched the most entertaining in-group organizational phrases and ideas that magically forgive them all for their blunders without really accepting blame or responsibility.
This group conformity is also very evident in non- European cultures, but I wonder if there is a different origin for it.
And of course, there is great conformity in small towns (traditionally seem as conservative).
Why would they care. They only care about their status. The same bullshit. In all of them. Ask them anything they're dumber then a sack of shit. But they'll quickly ask Google or Alexa quoting the official narratives, never questioning anything else. Unless it's their football team, where they went on holiday, and what they ate for dinner. Of course you could ask them about their job. It's often racist to talk about this. They'd rather talk about their football team instead. It's all they talk about. Their dumb holiday where they went to watch their football team. The most important thing they learned off any world event was what the nightly news told them. But their favourite song an advert for bullshit is the stuff of such karaoke. Or how omg the latest Lord of the Rings was a giant ass, but then they'll say season 2 will be much better. They have no other functions. None. If you don't relate then there's no communicating to the normie. They have no other buttons. The only way to trigger them is by making them mad. But they're all masochists.
I have witnessed organizations.... cultures.
For me, I feel the shifts, when the apparent reality is changing, or perhaps I should say, when I am being gaslit. When the outside culture is pressing on me to change my mind. For a time when I felt this pressing, I didn't know what it was or what they were doing. Maybe normies never felt it before?
I have put a marker in the pre- shift reality, and then shifted to the new reality and watched the formation.
I suspect that the ease of mass brainwashing and gaslighting has been because they succeeded so well in destroying the absolute. Destroying God, destroying definitions. Everything is good and bad. Everything is perspective or opinion or feeling.
In organizations, your truth/reality shifts with the leader's beliefs. With politics.
It seems like people in artificial settings can especially be easily shifted away from an observable reality to a reality that is based externally, not in nature or God, but in the leader or authority.
Perhaps, normies have been used to shifting realities, conforming to the group/authority. And when this rolled out, they were easily moved around.
But then there is the non conformist, the deviants, the disagreeable personality.
I don't know how common it is in society to have changed their reality to one based on their leader. I only have my experiences.
I think this is an above, so below, the personal is political issue.
Because normies don't seem to have a well developed sense of self... or perhaps they lack self esteem? I was helping out this guy, and every day he would promise to do something very small and specific. I would make him give me his word and he would continually break it. He had no sense of shame. There was no sense of dishonor. I don't think he esteemed his honor or word/self high enough to care.
No internal voice.
Obedience and habit. Even when they know it is self destructive.
The ideal slave for 10s of centuries or more.
But maybe 30,000 years ago we were mostly not normies? We had a fuller consciousness?
Thanks for your comment, definitely a big part of it.
Overly self confident arrogant slavemen killing off the native earth naturals.