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posted 3 years ago by MostlyPeacefulNATO 3 years ago by MostlyPeacefulNATO +4 / -5
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– Mad_King_Kalak 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

In Christian theology, Jesus died for all of humanity.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

Not necessarily. I think you have a very poor understanding of Christian theology, which contributes to your offhand denigration of said religion.

Let us being with your premise about being born into sin.

Properly understood, original sin is when our first human ancestors disobeyed God in some way. We were given free will, the capacity to choose evil or good, and we didn't choose good. The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge could be real or allegorical. As a result of this disobedience, humanity has a harder time making its way through a creation that, admittedly, God could have make a paradise.

Because he's merciful, millennia later (what is a few centuries to the creator of the universe that is ancient beyond reckoning) God became man in the person of Jesus. Jesus suffered and died to make up for humanity screwing up. Still, things are still pretty rough, with death and disease and all that, but through suffering, we are built up, like an athlete training for competition.

Do you wish me to continue on about what is necessary for salvation?

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– Thisisnotanexit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What is absurd about christian theology? Literally translated it's the logic of God. Is the idea of God logical? If so, what does that mean? And if not, what else could explain it all, systematically?

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– the-new-style 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Knowledge revealed is of our own death.

Our afterlife is what we do unto others.

We are beholden to every person, animal and plant on whom we rely for sustenance and succor.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

"objectively" lol. The irony of you saying that, while being a sort of gnostic nihilist, is not lost on me. Put down the Nietzsche bro.

Anyway, if you're going to trash the religion, you at least ought understand it enough to trash what it really is, rather than what you think it is. To quote Yoda, "that is why you fail."

That being said, in short: Jesus died for all of humanity. By the grace of God those who don't believe him could possibly by saved by living a moral life as dictated by a property formed conscience, and further, belief alone in Jesus as your savior isn't enough.

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– JP_TheKookyShrink -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Yes but also give them your money and give more and never stop giving and oh yeah that's right they don't pay taxes on it either....

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– JP_TheKookyShrink -1 points 3 years ago +2 / -3

Because participation in Christianity in America is on a steep decline, likely due to the internet and access to information, something Christians have been against for thousands of years (I wonder why.) Evangelicals, being flush with cash, have realized that the conspiracy community is one avenue to drum up new recruits as they deem participants in this community to be easily influenced. And they aren't entirely wrong. But the influx of pro Christian "users" in the community isn't only ironic, it's one of the more obvious attempts at shilling, and a true conspiracy. Bring it up and you'll soon find your name in the mod logs.

Faith is belief in lieu of evidence.

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