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Shoulda' built WTC 1, 2, and 7 out of streetlamps, i guess. (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 3 years ago by glownigger8675309 3 years ago by glownigger8675309 +41 / -5
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– the-new-style 8 points 3 years ago +9 / -1

damage = mass x velocity

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– Leporidae 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Exactly. People who are confused by this can spend a little time googling hurricane-pictures of high windspeeds making various objects shoot through trees etc.

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– clemaneuverers 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Is that explained just by velocity though? My understanding is that, for example, a piece of straw deeply penetrating a tree, or a piece of wood penetrating solid concrete or brick (two examples of which I have pictures saved in a folder somewhere) during hurricanes are still pretty mystifying occurences. Mythbusters, those paragons of truth (sarcasm), even tried to deboonk such occurrences:

https://mythresults.com/episode61

They say basically it can't happen, so I guess they think the photos have been faked. My opinion is it does happen and the photos are real, and velocity doesn't explain why it happens. It's likely an electromagnetic field effect. Literally, the atoms and molecules and bonds between them are being messed with by the disturbance of the hurricane, briefly allowing objects of lesser mass to enter objects of greater mass, and also allowing for levitation effects, which is something else which often occurs during hurricanes that just gets put down to strong wind speeds.

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– Leporidae 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I have no explanation for straws, or know if they are faked at all, but have seen some of those pictures yes. But there other examples, like wooden planks that get shot through or deeply embedded into trees which have the same densities - you wouldn't be able to make them penetrate that way at low velocities or by hammering on them; they'd splinter first, but at high speeds they shoot through. I don't think those are faked.

If there were some unknown physical phenomenon that could increase the strength of chemical bonds, we should all drop what we were doing and research that, since it would mean near-infinite money for whoever figured it out, and might start a new technological leap forward similar to when we tamed metal and electricity. Are there fringe research out there looking at that? I don't remember ever coming across it.

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Are there fringe research out there looking at that?

yes there have been a few, over the years and currently. However it is a controversial topic, even within the fringe and conspiracy circles - it's often pushed to the fringe of the fringe, since it would mean some of which we take for granted as fact within physics is wrong. So people who don't feel up to the challenge of exploring that will look the other way, and people who are too invested in the current paradigm ferociously defend that paradigm especially against this stuff.

Research falls under a few different labels, though if you google them you will have to work at getting past all the skeptics saying it's bullshit. (electromagnetic) Field Effects, Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR, formerly called "cold fusion"), "The Hutchison Effect" - among others.

Look into Fleishman and Pons, John Hutchison, Ken Shoulders - there's 2 channels on youtube - "Martin Fleishman Memorial Project" and "Field Interference" - Historically this would have been related to what the earliest scientists were interested in, the Alchemists, since a product of these effects is sometimes the transmutation of elements. This may sound ridiculous, but all it means is that after experiments, tiny amounts of elements are found, through before and after spectral analysis of the samples, which were not present in any form previously. Their presence is not explicable by conventional means, so such evidence often just dismissed or ignored without discussion.

Unfortunately I don't know of a decent, unique or all-encompassing summary resource for you. It's a topic that's all over the place, tragically under-funded (misplaced skepticism and for the above reason, IMO, of protecting the current valuable paradigm). It's covered by different people in different ways.

One way it really came to the fore of the "fringe" though was when a book was published after 9/11, "Where Did The Towers Go?". The author proclaimed that evidence shows the controlled demotion of the WTC was achieved with a secret technology that harnessed these "field effects" rather than explosives (and definitely not the planes). One of that authors major pieces of evidence for this was the presence of too much Tritium at the WTC in the aftermath of the destruction. Whether it was used in the operation of the technology or was a transmuted byproduct of it's use, remains unclear (tritium is basically rare and radioactive form of hydrogen).

Other evidence includes levitation effects (of people and objects like cars) off the ground during the collapse of the towers, a lack of extreme heat, bizarre combinations of destruction that could not be achieved just by heat or fire - paper and rubber remaining unburnt in very close proximity to burning cars and fires - the extremely fast rusting of steel in the area, circular holes in glass and steel I-beams bent in seemingly impossible ways. And on and on. Here's link to a scan of the book if you're interested:

https://archive.org/details/where_did_the_towers_go

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– clemaneuverers 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

I forgot to mention the granddaddy of research into this, Nikola Tesla! That's really the best place to start. It was by trying to mimick Teslas lab and experiments that John Hutchison was able to make some crazy stuff happen to metal and random objects.

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

× imagimation. Hahaha!

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– Merkava_4 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

What the hell is a lamp post doing on the runway anyway?

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– TheDigger3 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's not on a runway, they're NY the gates.

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– aaarrrrjunas1 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

i seen a 2x4 impale some crazy shit post-tornado.

BUT FUCK THAT.

EXPLAIN BUILDING 7.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Easy, it collapsed after it burned for 8 hours after it was damaged by falling debris, it was a records storage facility full of paper, and it had a backup generator with stored diesel, so there was a lot to burn

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– aaarrrrjunas1 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

FALLICY.

what temp melts reinforced/hardened steal beams?

EDJUMACATE ME.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Poe's Law...I can't tell if this is serious or not.

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– aaarrrrjunas1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

BINGO BANGO JANGO.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Jango Fett, great character, but what an ignoble death.

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– aaarrrrjunas1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

FOUND THE STEREO-TYPER.

im welsh.

figure that shit out.

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I dont think you can learn Go back on the meds.

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– aaarrrrjunas1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

u w0t?

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– Fuggergeschaft1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

or rather, out of passport paper

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– TheDigger3 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

They were taxiing, so probably going no more than 14-16 mph. The planes that hit the buildings were doing ~500 and ~580 mph.

Not that I buy the official story, but this isn't a useful piece of evidence.

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– WindyJibbz 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

The wing should also be pouring fuel on the ground lol.

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– King_of_Crazy -11 points 3 years ago +2 / -13

So 2000's. Old stuff, bro.

We've moved on.

Let it go.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– Snailracer 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

"Never forget" became "Let it go?"

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– Questionable 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Over Dick Chenney's dead body. Maybe then we can move on. Maybe.

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