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US narrative won’t survive defeat in Donbass (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Corporis 3 years ago by Corporis +7 / -4
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– Primate98 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The article is really well-written and full of information, but as for the headline, I think the author hasn't kept up with just how far beyond the looking glass we've gone here in the United States of Freedom and the rest of the Free World.

The US "leadership" is detached from reality, literally psychotic.They'll say anything at this point, such as: Biden White House Releases Memo Insisting Its Policies — Open Borders, Arming Taliban, Stranding Americans in Afghanistan, Squatters Camps on Border — Are VERY Popular with American Public . Sadly, some fraction of the public will believe that precisely because the White House just said it.

In Ukraine, Putin finally reached the end of the line trying to reason with and come to an accommodation on the situation. How could anyone? You'd have to be mentally ill yourself to trust the Neo-Colonialists, their puppets, and their Nazi dogs. Regrettably, Putin had to create facts on the ground through force of arms. Everyone is going to say whatever they're going to say about that, but I guarantee he does not give one rat's ass about that. Reread the first sentence of the paragraph.

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– ZyklonBen -1 points 3 years ago +2 / -3

In Ukraine, Putin finally reached the end of the line trying to reason with and come to an accommodation on the situation

How exactly was Putin forced to invade Ukraine and start killing civilians there? I don't really get that.

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– Primate98 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Zelensky rejected peace offer days before Russian offensive – WSJ

Surrendered Ukrainian troops confirm Kiev’s plans of massive offensive in Donbass — DPR

There is much more. You might consider researching these matters for yourself. I'm not sure it's up to others on this site to do it for you.

As a bonus, though, you may want to review this on the matter of killing civilians: IN VIDEO: UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS CONFIRM THEY WERE ORDERED TO KILL CIVILIANS IN RUBEZHNOE

Again, there is much more. BTW, I don't really like highlighting the ignorance of other people, although I have the suspicion may have never noticed.

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– ZyklonBen -2 points 3 years ago +2 / -4
  1. Source: Russians state media. "Peace offering" meant "Do as we tell you or else". So you think that Russia can dictate to other nations how they should conduct foreign policy and if they disagree, Russia is justified in invading them?

  2. Source: Russian state media after the invasion claims that some random soldiers knew about a secret offensive plan. Sure. Fucking seriously?

  3. Again some fucking Russian state media.

Good job in posting articles by Russian propaganda outlets making shit up after the invasion started.

That is lazy even for Russian shills.

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– Primate98 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

So rather than posting counter-evidence you go with name calling, outrage, and expletives? I fear some may find that less than completely persuasive, particularly given your high scholarly standards. I would have been embarrassed at the public demonstration of a total lack of counter-evidence, but I appreciate your candor with us.

See you next time! :)

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– ZyklonBen -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

So rather than posting counter-evidence

I don't need to post counterevidence. You have to post evidence for your claims that Russia was somehow forced to invade Ukraine.

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– Primate98 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

We meet the Evidence Czar! How ironic.

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– ScienceGuyWontComply 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

'forced to invade Ukraine' and 'start killing civilians there'

One of these things is not like the other.

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– ZyklonBen 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

are you denying that Russia invaded Ukraine or that they are killing civilians there?

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– ScienceGuyWontComply 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

To quote a very informed Primate

"You might consider researching these matters for yourself. I'm not sure it's up to others on this site to do it for you."

Then you will know why one is not like the other.

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– ZyklonBen 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Pathetic . Just admit that you are making shit up would be more honest

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– Skyrison 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

fuck zelensky, fuck ukraine, fuck their government and disgusting military. there. i said it. i hope their system falls HARD

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– Ep0ch 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

I still don't know who is bogging who down?

Arming those monkeys has become even more costly. What is Ukraine paying with, nuts or bananas? Seriously those crops are also gone.

Meanwhile as arm shipments get hit. There goes another billion in aid. As critical infrastructure gets destroyed. No chance.

Ridiculous to assume the monkeys offered anything else. A ridiculous assumption it was costing the other nation more. Irony.

Russia could also nuke if pressed. Or keep hitting any lines and infrastructure conventionally.

At this point it is costing the West far more. Literally over a barrel. Throwing money at a side which cannot win. What is winning. That cost has escalated into it doesn't matter much what Russia does.

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