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The U.K. Is Dragging The U.S. Into WWIII In Ukraine (youtu.be)
posted 4 years ago by Corporis 4 years ago by Corporis +5 / -0
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– Primate98 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

As I've studied it, when you take a close look at all the warmongering throughout Europe, all the NATO countries are actually dragging their feet. Anyone with sense knew it was over Day 1. They send old, cruddy, non-functioning weapons, etc. The Poles knew they were never going to see those MiGs again, so they had to be offered free planes from the US to even go along with it.

Even in the worst warmongering states like the UK, Poland, and Germany, it's just a handful of people. It's especially apparent in Germany, where they're not going to come out and challenge the party line, but they'll say, "Uh, our whole deal is going to implode if Russia shuts off the gas, dummies. It's bad now and will get real super bad."

I see it all as some reason for optimism in these troubled times. Couldn't we all use some?

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– Ep0ch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No it's much worse.

The UK reopens its embassy in the Kiev, securing any arms shipments for Nato. Simple supply line. Sooner flight space, if the Embassy reopens it needs flight. Embassy gets hit. War. Arms shipments, plus the increasing operatives get hit, war. USA is now supplying predator drones. Brand new tanks and artillery systems are also enroute. Plus a bunch of other hardware. Other nations will sooner start reopening their Embassy's, Nato mainly for some of the same reasons. This is very close to being established shortly.

There are Peace deals prior, but there is no Peace deal losing or conceding coastline. Or potentially recognising any territory. It could mean another Berlin wall if there is that peace.

The only concession would logically be after loss. No loss if the war will continue. Ukraine still wants to counter attack. It still holds territory in the contested regions, and they're still being supported. Hence it wants more arms, and the current shipments are faster becoming a lot more non defensive.

Stay informed. It's simple chess. Move for move edging closer to check, or checkmate. Or who knows their full objectives. They are both still fighting. This war could last for quite awhile longer.

Russia would logically need to secure Southern Ukraine, without it, it could see the same problems of Nato opening bases closer to the Crimea and any separatist territory. Ukraine is currently applying for Nato candidacy for any later security guarantees. It could easily be torpedoed pushed through. Hence reopening Embassies is being discussed.

There is peace. What complete deal would secure it? Ukraine would have to ceed territory. Meanwhile Kherson region could be recognised by Russian law. It secures Crimean water supplies.

Or convince me otherwise? Of Peaceful intentions. There are negotiations but they're not really anywhere near being established. Meanwhile any other agendas still have to sell why the public will keep paying more for it.

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– the-new-style 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dragging Joe "Putin cannot remain in power" Biden into conflict.

OK Jimmy

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