So many of you may have been aware that lately there has been several provocations by israeli forces against the native Palestinian in parts of Palestine awaiting liberation since 1948 (so called israel) and the parts awaiting liberation since 1967 (so called the west bank).
But it may get fuzzy for someone not familiar with the history of the area to know what's going on, especially when outlets like Reuters and CNN would focus on Palestinians attacking poor innocent unarmed israelis!
Historical facts
1- There was no such called israel prior to 1948 and there were practically no jews whatsoever in Palestine early to mid19th century, only few Thousands, as the Ottoman empire which controlled the region weakened it started to allow Ottoman empire jews to live in Palestine and some foreign jews to emigrate, but the numbers were still relatively very low. After WW1 and the collapse of the Ottoman empire, The British empire which take control of the region, started importing huge numbers of jewish immigrants in compliance with the Balfour declaration which the Rotschilds worked for. After WW2 Even larger number of jewish immigrants came, trained by the British with WW2 experience, some other jews who have committed the Holodomor and the Bolshevik massacres also joined the attack on the Palestinians and stole the lands of Palestine (first phase in 1948).
The Palestinians did not really have a chance, all the other Arab countries worked for the British and were actively disarming the Palestinians or created false controlled opposition. One of the traitorous leaders who worked for the British was king Abdullah the first who was later assassinated in Al-Aqsa Mosque (Planned by officers in the Jordanian army who witnessed his treason), his later Dynasty: Hussein and the current Abdullah all took the same line of working for the jews, it is reported that king Talal (Abdullah the first' son) actually married a jewess from Turkey (forced type of marriage), That jewess apparently slept around with his father and with John Bagot Glubb (Talal was not obedient to the jews, he once made the mistake of punching Glubb in the jaw (look up Glubb's photos and you can see his deformed jaw), so as a punishment he was sent to a women's mad house in Turkey where he died!)
2- The Palestinians did everything they can to fight off the illegal immigrants who took their lands (jewish immigrant hordes who established so called israel), it was a long struggle starting from 1936 they did strikes, armed resistance. In 1948 they fought with little they have (guns from WW1 era, the English would confiscate Palestinians weapon while actively training and arming the jewish murderous hordes), the Palestinians tried to continue their struggle from the east bank (Jordan) but the royals of Jordan who work for the English/jews fought them off and massacred many Palestinians, they tried to fight off the jews from Lebanon only to have israelis turn the people of Lebanon on them. Add to that the Palestinian organizations themselves were infiltrated by the Mossad/Cia/Mi6, the very best and smartest of Palestinian leaders would be assassinated while leaving only the very worst and most degenerate to rule and have leadership roles.
3-The Intifada happened in 1987, it was a popular uprising of the natives against the jewish occupying hordes, but the jews destroyed it by bringing in the power hungry Arafat who effectively bribed the people and established a local occupation force, doing the dirty work of the israelis, he was later assassinated by the israelis because he was not degenerate enough for their liking.
4-israelis/jewish zionists are masters in false flags and deception, they have committed September 11th, USS Liberty, SS Patria, Lavon affair, Jeffery Epstein's blackmail ring, Holocaust lies and god knows what else we never found out about.
5-The jews understand demographics! That's why they destroyed Europe with immigration and are destroying the USA with it and that's why they encourage large families (Orthodox jews usually have very large families with up to 10 children, those children marry very early and have 10 more children!!), this is why Palestine now is filled with jews and they are becoming a majority.
Recently:
6-The jews have been demolishing Palestinian homes at an accelerated pace, arresting more and more young men everyday, arresting children as well subjecting them to sexual harassment and rape. The recent attack on Al-Aqsa mosque is one of many regular occurring, the unreported things are what's scary. jewish criminals routinely shoot at Palestinian men and women eyes and reproductive organs, they shoot at children and at medics.
7-The recent reports of Palestinian attacks on israelis are one of two:
-Either completely fabricated stories, basically an israeli soldier shoots an unlucky Palestinian then plants a knife next to him. (If the israelis fabricate an incident who is going to find out or investigate it? This also include bomb attacks! Never forget the USS Liberty or the SS Patria)
-Or due to the intense provocations of Palestinians, the demolishing of their homes, the arrest of their children, the constant harassment at checkpoints some of them flip and make a random useless attack.
Predictions
8-The provocations will only continue, jewish oligarchs might sacrifice few of their brethren in order to justify more provocations or mass attacks on the Palestinians (A one sided civil war sort of thing which will be portrayed as 2 sided with Hamas the boogeyman which the israelis invented involved.)
The proposed solution will be the transfer of the native Palestinians to the desert of Jordan and the desert of the Sinai, basically something similar to what happened to the native Americans.
I didn't know much of that. Interesting! Especially about Talal!
What I don't understand is why the Jews are so inefficient? As you mentioned, the Americans were able to corral the Indians fairly quickly and effectively. The Germans were able to put people in camps fairly quickly. The Soviets were able to relocate massive amounts of people. The Brits put Boers in camps during the war.
Why has it taken the Jews so long just to move them into a nearby desert? The Palestinians would presumably be more free and happy and the Jews would have what they want. The Soviets moved people all the way to Siberia without any problems.
I'm not talking about the morality of any of these actions, just that they happened and I don't know why the Jews just conspired for decades without just taking direct action.
Good question!!
I actually read several diaries to try to understand the jewish mindset and why things went the way it did.
I can sum it up with 2 things:
-They made mistakes
-They couldn't get away easily with it
The Boers had no other Boers to be pissed off at such action, the Native American were not quite united, but the Palestinians are part of a larger Arab Ethnicity or culture, while it's true all Arab leaders and regimes are traitors, the jews still can't get away with mass relocation, relatively recently the jews had to fight true nationalist leader such as Jamal Abd Al Nasser, even people like Sadam were a pain. If it was just the Palestinians against the jews they would have easily moved them.
Just a reminder, the Palestinians actually refused and continue to refuse relocation, they would rather die than move. Palestinians in Jerusalem are offered insane amounts of money to sell their homes but they do not do it!!
Palestinians in Jerusalem are offered American passports and millions just to leave but they refuse. I know it's hard to believe but that's the case. Some of them do actually accept the offers but they always have to try and pretend that they didn't sell their homes, if they are found out, any other Palestinian would kill them for it.
Through a combination of reasons the jews were unsuccessful in relocating the Palestinians, take for example the deep state in Jordan. They didn't want more Palestinians because it would turn Jordan into an official Palestinian state and the nomadic tribes in charge of it would lose their power. Same thing with Lebanon the Christians don't want any more Muslims.
Egypt had a national system at one point which would refuse such a thing, back in the 50s and 60s there was a strong national Arab pride that was not only dangerous for israelis but to the international oligarchy., under Al-Sisi it may happen and I think they are planning it, maybe Mubarak didn't accept it and he was toppled because of it.
Golda Meir actually regretted not killing all the Palestinians left in areas occupied in 1948, they only left very few Palestinians alive but they proved to be problematic later on. In 1967 the Palestinians have learned their lesson from 1948 and were willing to die than leave their homes, town municipalities in areas like Nablus refused to let anyone leave to the east bank (Jordan) and thus stood against mass migration, and the jews didn't want to commit mass massacres because they must have believed it would cause them more serious issues down the road (It was the days of Nasser back then, a whole different world)
Thanks for the long reply... which diaries did you read?
Jews
Moshe Sharett diaries (terribly boring! but had to trudge through it)
Ben Gurion's war diaries 1947-1949
Palestinians
George Habash Pages of my struggle
Hajj Amin Al-Husseini diaries
Jordanian
Abdullah El Tell The Catastrophe of Palestine
Egyptian
Saad el-Shazly diaries (Regarding the very important 1973 war)
Thanks, you really know your stuff.... I hope things work out in the best possible way for the Palestinians.
Thank you, checking it out now.
youre fuckn lucky you understand the powers of paragraphs.
Palestinians are breeding to quickly for that plan to work
I am afraid that's not the case recently (it used to be, but no longer valid), new Palestinian families are two small especially in the west bank, mostly 2-3 children max getting married later and later in life due to economic hardships. Palestinians are more and more living in ghetto like conditions, overcrowded cities with expensive housing.
In addition many of them have been tricked into the "vaccine", I am not sure what the results will be. The only ones who still have a somewhat large family mindset are the ones in Gaza and some who still live in villages, but they too suffer from water and housing shortages and are surrounded by their enemies
In comparison, orthodox jews, get free housing, free welfare, jobs and free education and medical care.
They are encouraged to breed by their rabbis, and probably took only saline "vaccines" or didn't even bother to take one.
If you look in Google earth at the west bank in Palestine, you will see very dense small Palestinian cities surrounded by settlements on the mountain tops surrounding them, those orthodox jews are being placed there as outposts and are constantly building newer and newer settlements, only a matter of time until they need the existing Palestinian cities and given time they would even need more landmass area outside of Palestine into Jordan/Lebanon/Syria, Saudi Arabid and the Sinai in Egypt (Very long term of course)
Doubtful of the recent strides in the jewish orthodox population? Take a look at this: https://conspiracies.win/p/142BT7bHZI/behold-the-hive-mind-in-action/c/
That is nonsense. Palestinian families average 7 or more. Seen interviews with 13 children being a norm. They interbreed.
Have you seen the box experiment. Simply done with rodents, you add more numbers into a box than perhaps that environment can sustain. Suggest 2, but you put 8. What often happens is that population explodes. The rodents will breed ramptantly turning both gay and cannibalistic. But the numbers will keep expanding until the box breaks, or they die off by a few factors like disease and starvation.
Humans aren't much different. The population explodes. Most mammals are quite similar. Except solitary mammals who can even hunger strike or refuse to mate.
But look at it, the Palestinian population has boomed and not decreased. It has rampantly gained population. Those families average a lot more. They also marry into kin increasingly expanding it more.
If 13 children was the norm for Palestinians in the west bank then jewish illegal immigrants would have already moved back to Brooklyn, Russia, Ukraine, Yemen and Ethiopia by now.
Per annum growth in the west bank is now at 0.92%, The west bank is not Gaza! There are differences, Also the Palestinian population in Palestine waiting liberation since 1948 (so called israel) is probably even less than that but I can't get a reference for it.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
Total fertility rate for Palestinian is 3.2 child per woman
But for the Jewish population it is: 5.07 child per woman!!
This does not take the account further jewish illegal immigrants such as the recent influx of Ukrainian jews
I have seen recent BBC documentaries and reports. Interviews of large families. Family of 13, another of 8. This was Gaza. A larger population area. The West Bank is spreadout thinner. Farms and smaller towns, few cities, etc. Not one area. Where statistically that population has exploded within the last few decades immensely. They cannot claim genocide when it has gained increasingly more than it has ever has in history under Israel.
Again clarity on your statistics. Where suddenly you're comparing the Jewish population. It is not relevant to discussing Palestinian population.
Except perhaps to the factors of conflict and expansion.
I have made very clear distinction in my first post about Gaza and some villages in the west bank.
Gaza is still having large families, it is actually the only reason why Gaza is jew free now. Without their demographics the jews would have stayed there and never left. They try to slowly genocide them with cancer causing foods, vaccines, dirty drinking water, cutting off building materials and all means of living but they are still not very successful at it.
The BBC will of course pick these families specifically!! Remember the BBC interview Ehud Barrack right after September 11th to point the finger at Muslims terrorist away from themselves? The BBC is not your friend and does not pick people to interview randomly! They usually even pick the ugliest of the available Palestinian stock to paint them in a negative light.
While the jews (still) didn't completely genocide the Palestinians in the west bank, the west bank is as tightly controlled as it could ever get. There is a checkpoint at every city entrance, movement is restricted, movement permits are required, some villages are completely isolated from the world and are prisons in and of themselves.
Yawn then you're not objective. What, where is the Palestinian population. How is that statistic made into what. It's not where you choose, ignoring a counter claim.
Yes of course propaganda is bias. It was airing some of those 13 children were killed, the loss, and again of the other 8. Ironic.
Not the point of the example of that box theory. Or the human rodent. Where we find that irony all accross the third world. And we sooner find the other mammals not breeding. Or the welfare babies. Until they're even on hunger strike turning into vegans, cannibals, and queers.
It's not genocide if the population is gaining. But of course the metaphorical box is breaking.
This is what i was told or thought I dont put much thought into the middle east theyve been fighting forever.
Arent the majority of Palestinians also recent Immigrants that moved in or by Israel after the kazars moved in and got things going again? Area was mostly uninhabited
Palestine is a term given to the area around Israel to mock them after the Rebellion ,so arent palestinian but wouldve went by tribal designation
No it was not, this is actually blatant jewish propaganda that is easy to debunk, stuff that jewish cucked pastors spread. the Khazars only started moving in around the early to mid 1900s, the Palestinians there can trace their roots at least 300-400 years back. Many of them know their tribal ancestry.
The Palestinians inhabiting Palestine now are descendants of people who have been there for as far as one can look up, even according to biblical version of history they were still there (Yabosean Canaanite). Now are they 100% pure? Well of course not! Who is?
The crusaders, Moguls, Turks, Egyptians, etc.. all passed and ruled Palestine and intermarried with the local Palestinians. Is that reason to hand it over to Polish, Ukranian and Yemeni jews? No!
Was just asking another opinion from what I heard didnt put much stake to it Im no Zionist , as i stated before I dont care too much about that region to put much thpught other than stop sending money leave them be let what happens happen.
Apologies if I sounded too harsh, it's just that it angers me whenever I hear different forms of the age old much repeated lie of a "land without people for a people without land", only jews are able to conjure up such big ones, the same way they did with the holohoax. Anyways if you have any further questions feel free to shoot'em.
I wish Americans where just sending them the official aid, lots of the army spending fraud is diverted to israel, In September 11th, they hit the Pentagon at the department which was investigating over 2 trillions which probably was mostly sent to them. Not to mention the tech they steal and later sell to China, or all the high tech such as Intel which any sane person would not let it leave US soil.
Freeing up Jonathan Pollard and sending him back to israel as a hero is a clear indication of where things stand.
The one thing OP never mentioned after 72 years since Balfour is just accepting that Israel exists and Palestine doesn't. Muslims can join the military in Israel. Be elected to the Knesset. Live a normal life in Israel. Or you can build homemade rockets and suicide vests for a war that has lasted generations and that muslims will never win. At some point you will love your children more than you hate jews.
Well I think you forget to mention the jewish nation state law
Also you forgot that you: jews/israelis were the ones behind September 11th and busy trafficking little girls for Epstein's clientele.
I am not a jew or Israeli. But I do study history. Arafat was famously described as never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity. He did steal about $5 billion in aid money from the Israeli muslims living in Gaza and the West Bank neighborhoods. Most of the aid money going to help the muslims there is still being diverted to weapons or just being stolen. But the Israeli muslims would rather breed with their first cousins and produce low IQ "refugees" . Your choice but you keep making poor ones.
I see you haven't even bothered to read my original post, check what I said about Arafat.