Hey all just saw a few topics in this vein recently and thought it might be interesting to try to group all of the different ideas under one umbrella, and try to get at the facts. I’ll start, by listing some of the different mechanisms or systems I’ve heard about, with a general overview link if I can find one, but without making a statement on what I think about them:
- Cold Fusion - everyone’s heard of this one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
- Tesla “Free Energy” - usually discussed in the context of Wardenclyffe Tower
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower
- “Plasma” Engines - this is a broad category, with many different systems/inventions claiming to operate through some kind of plasma fuel generation, often involving water. Here is one example that struck me as genuine, years ago when I first saw it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d5YsK3bwzPM
- Megalithic Engines - this is broadly the idea that some form of energy generation and use must have been occurring with certain ancient megalithic sites. Most here have probably seen the various calculations showing how the mainstream explanations behind (for example) the construction of the Great Pyramid just ignore reality in favor of comforting fantasy like “log rollers” and “dirt ramps”. Here is a great documentary on the subject
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2fS9ixfQ_no
- The Great Pyramid, through its structure and potentially other factors like mineral composition, acts as an electromagnetic resonance chamber, focusing energy in the form of excited electrons into a core chamber. This fact alone is astounding, but the larger implications and questions raised are even more interesting (Why? How were they able to achieve this? Where did they learn about this type of science and yet seem to have forgotten it by the time record keeping improved? Was it used somehow in “initiatory” experiences? Etc.):
https://phys.org/news/2018-07-reveals-great-pyramid-giza-focus
- Human Bioenergy - this is an interesting subject to dive into. The vast majority of human cultures have developed ways to “cultivate” the natural energy present everywhere. Each coming up with a different name and independent, yet interestingly related methods of practice. This all falls under its own umbrella I’ve been calling c/HumanPotential, but it includes discussions on topics as varied as the “Placebo Effect”, Chi, Prana, prayer, meditation, breath work, “Wim Hof Method” type schools, yoga, tai chi, qi gong, and many other intersecting realms, such as “astral projection”, “spirits”, “NDEs” and others. I recommend people check out that dot win if they’re interested in more info on this subject
I personally think 4,5, & 6 are all related, basically that groups can exercise psychic/bioenergetic power collectively. This would be basically a “collective consciousness” to complement our “collective subconscious”.
It's too bad Randi's not testing these anymore because he's successfully debunked some of them. Here's a quick take.
Cold fusion is likely and The Saint was predictive programming. Also likely to be about as inefficient as electric cars. If DARPA had succeeded at it by now the comms would likely have been different, so it must be Mossad instead.
Tesla was definitely onto things, as the Mythbusters showed by getting a bridge to vibrate with a tiny resonant device. I presume his primary angle was zero-point energy. This is the biggie and may well be the driver of all the other technologies. Quantum mechanics was designed to hide the reality of energy from the masses (Einstein's objections to it have never been answered) by changing the discussion from reality to probability, i.e. deconstructing. What the scientists do understand when they push back the clutter cover of QM is what's driving Moore's law and nano. Someday I hope to produce a good testable theory that would demonstrate how to use ZPE. (Now fund me. See how easy pseudo is?)
Plasma is real but any effects for free energy are likely to be pseudo because it's a buzzword. It's for space, like Higgs bosons.
Building megaliths: most days I assume that ingenuity, labor, and structures were sufficient. Some days I entertain skepticism. I like the hieroglyphic light bulbs, they seem doable via "Baghdad Battery". I don't think investigating pyramid construction will reveal energy sources except by other means.
EM resonance: only by repeated application of Baghdad Battery tech. Basically that tech is not much different from our own, which has much improved on its output. So if there were an EM feature to a pyramid we could probably duplicate it cheaply in a small structure.
Human bioenergy is basically dependent on drawing on ZPE. It also requires use of the extra dimensions of M-theory. You're right that it has several different categories of application as demonstrated by miracle narratives. It has even more counterfeiters. There have been very few good tests by modern scientific standards. Since some of it is "spiritual", the line becomes blurry as to what can be done independently and what is dependent on inhuman spiritual energy. Collective power is potential but that is interdependent among humans.
Places to look: Ark of Covenant construction and why Uzzah was electrocuted; any "miraculous" process that we take for granted, such as rapid growth in seeds and embryos, or intuition in mammals; particle entanglement; water memory; wavicle models. Will check back.
I believe sonoluminescence is the key to cold fusion. And I don't think it's right to call anything debunked. There are many variables to ascertaining the truth.
Are you familiar with Rupert Sheldrake? Very, very interesting scientist and investigator. He came up with a theory or framework around just what you describe here, dubbed “Morphic Resonance”:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake
He also happens to be on of the biggest proponents/investigators of testable psy-phenomena (lots of work published on “the sense of being stared at” and “dogs who know when their owners are coming home”, which have both kind of entered popular culture).
Regarding the construction of the Great Pyramid, I agree with you, unfortunately, that further study is unlikely to shed (clear) light on their methods of construction, however I’d be interested in how you think it was achievable for them, without some un-accounted for factor (precursor civilization, advanced “tech”, or ayyy lmaos). Have you seen that doc I linked?
I don’t know much about the Ark, beyond what I learned from a professor of archeology (who happened to be the son of Sean Connery if you can believe that!). Where would you start on that subject?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery#Media_tests_of_viability where the episode and the full article will give good context on how it could have worked. Given that it works on a small scale there's no reason why kings couldn't have their mad scientists generate greater electricity with gigantic ENIAC-style structures. Determining whether such structures were built into the pyramids hasn't been done.
You're saying that Connery's son and Connery's character's son are both archaeologists interested in raiding the Ark of the Covenant, and you know this firsthand? Creepy! I thought Vendyl Jones claimed he was the original "Indy".
I have maybe 5% respect for Sheldrake as I think he was duped more often than he was onto something.
More when I look at the links.
I apologize, Graph, I'm going to need to pursue another strategy today rather than devote some time to studying these links immediately as I'd intended. Looking forward to this conversation continuing in the long term.
Ahh fair enough mon frère. I’d put the pyramid doc “revelation of the pyramids” at the top of my recs, so whenever you do get a chance (maybe as the after dinner viewing if you do that, when you’re looking for something to both enlighten and entertain) I’d love to start there
You should add water-based batteries, either splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen, or utilizing some other anomalous effect, like Lord Kelvin’s spark generator:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-3EdcjMuOtg&feature=emb_title
Yeah, a lot of these seem like they could be working under the principle of exciting water to produce free H+ ions, so I think you could call many of them plasma fuel generators or something like that. I linked to one I remember reading a fair bit about, the “GEET” engine
On this same tech, I think Stanley Meyer was onto with his water fueled car. Used a form of electrolysis to separate the hydrogen. For those who do not know about him, during a meeting with potential investors, His brother says after sipping his drink, he went running out of the meeting holding his throat and violently vomitting, saying they poisoned him, then he died. That's the story as I recall, those who don't know about his story should def look him up.
Tesla turbine is pretty cool.
Sorry for the utube links. Nornie overview (which says that the tech wasn't efficient enough etc.)
This guy has been trying to build the entire system.
The concept is to use the energy from the phase shift of water and convert to energy.
This guy had some other cool ideas. If you connect the dots from even this fairly conservative approach, even if 'free energy' isn't real, the current systems are made to maximize inefficiencies.
There's a lot old and strange science research books at:
https://borderlandsciences.org
Topics include odyle, orgone, ground radio and dowsing, as well as so called "scalar waves". Also a lot of lesser known 1800s weird science topics.
For orgone ( Wilhelm Reich ) related discussions, there's some interesting forums at:
https://www.warriormatrix.com
I'll believe it when it's shown to be true.
I don't have much to add other than saying cool post dude. I'd love to see more stuff like this and less partisan politics.
I think you triggered some partisan politic downvoters. The hate is lame.
Shills vote on stuff. When I see the pattern, the first thing that comes to mind is the thing being voted on is fake.
The downvotes are how you know you're doing it right.