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Rus troops left Bucha 4 days before allegations appeared (mobile.twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by DavidColeIntrepid 3 years ago by DavidColeIntrepid +23 / -2
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– Ep0ch 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

There's also footage of Ukrainian entry, showing a clear road, and Ukrainian uniforms arranging the bodies on that road.

Also to note the bodies specifically all had white armbands and beside some of the bodies are Russian ration packs. Many were also bound.

The town had a Russian speaking majority.

Away from the Major claiming no atrocity on Russian withdrawal.

It doesn't quite explain the mass grave found there. And supposed footage can be manipulated. But there are too many questions to draw a conclusion. It has been made by the press.

I am not linking shit. Find it. Heard enough Bullshit regarding this. Frankly it makes little difference where this war is headed. Judge jury and executioner have seemingly made their own minds up.

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The town had a Russian speaking majority.

This is an important distinction most media outlets won't touch because it breaks down the narrative.

Russian troops move through Russian speaking village giving humanitarian aid, rations, looking for sabatours whatever then leave.

Azov ultranationalist Nazis move in to punish / attack Russian speaking Ukrainians for "collaboration". Keep in mind the original Nazis, who these punks aren't, were very big believers in collective punishment.

Manufacture propaganda calling your attacks "Russian" all they need is a red armband instead of their yellow ones.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It has been aired on a number of sources. Where hasn't Zelenskyy stated collaborators are traitors. Hasn't he also said refusing to fight are traitors.

Until they have a regular gestapo over there, which is why there are military police in many places, seen in much more footage.

There's so much more and far too much to go into detail.

It doesn't mean Russia have been angels of mercy. Pun there.

But where this topic is concerned. It's a very dirty war. Stunts like this end nowhere good, simple strategy for inserting involvement. What that means is getting much grimmer. It's propagating an opposing mindset by brainwashing a population into God forbid.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– SuicideTruthbomber -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

I'd like to hear what people think about the following:

Satellite images show bodies in Bucha for weeks, rebutting Moscow claim • FRANCE 24 English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nus8Ac6abk4

The people who were killed, whichever side they were on, should be identified out of respect for the dead. If a pattern emerges, it might shed light as to which side would be motivated to carry out such an atrocity.

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– Khamzat_VS_TheWorld -4 points 3 years ago +1 / -5

Source: Just trust me, comrade

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Sources are literally state officials on both sides. If you're screaming "fake news!" then you're calling the mayor of bucha a liar and the entire Ukrainian government liars.

It's just the timeline.

March 31 mayor of bucha issues announcement saying bucha is liberated and there are no Russian troops in the city. April 1 and 2 azov battalion moves into bucha. April 3 allegations of warcrimes.

Here's a tass report on the subject. Russia demands unsc investigation. https://tass.com/politics/1431813?utm_source=moonofalabama.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=moonofalabama.org&utm_referrer=moonofalabama.org

Just like Hitler had swiss doctors verify polish aggression but that's not the story we go with today.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

If Tass is too Russian for people, here's a pro-Ukraine website celebrating the liberation of Bucha on Mar 31st.

https://www.weareukraine.info/bucha-liberated-from-the-russian-forces/

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– loonygecko 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Thanx for the info, yes that is damning, and all he complains about is Russian mines being left behind, nothing about corpses. First reports of dead peeps on the road i can find is from April 1. Anyway it's tricky, it's a war, you expect to find corpses in a war, that's why wars suck. Ukrainians could have repositioned them for effect or just tied their hands after the fact or they could have been casualties of war because wars are horrible. We are also hearing reports of Ukrainian soldiers attacking Russian speaking Ukrainians. The worst kinds of behaviors and people often come out during war time.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

He suddenly remembered a week later.

I guess someone said "or the next bullet is yours"

https://m.censor.net/en/news/3332119/90_of_killed_inhabitants_of_bucha_were_shot_mayor_fedoruk

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– Skyrison 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

you can literally look up a SHIT TON OF SOURCES these days for yourself. lazy ass x(

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– SuicideTruthbomber -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

Citation is the responsibility of those making claims.

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It was cited in the original tweet. Are you having trouble reading?

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– SuicideTruthbomber -3 points 3 years ago +2 / -5

I did not address the original tweet. I was talking to u/Skyrison who asserted that readers should follow up on material themselves rather than people citing sources.

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– Skyrison 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

your responsibility to also do research. its not hard

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– SuicideTruthbomber -4 points 3 years ago +1 / -5

How am I supposed to know what you are basing your claims upon? I might read four sources that say something different. We also need to take into account the quality of where you are getting your information.

It is generally accepted that people claiming things show their work.

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– Esuomyonana 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There's sources in the tweet.

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– Smokratez 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

You rather believe what jews tell you?

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– deleted -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4
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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ukrainian minister of defense is spreading "Russian propaganda"? Someone should tell him

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– Smokratez 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

You prefer the jew side of things?

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