(First post in this community.)
More and more I've been seeing soy proteins pop up in ingredient-lists for various foods. A cursory glance online says that this is a protein extracted from soybeans, and may have beneficial properties compared to other foodstuffs, but not enough research has been conducted, even though it's been around in edible form for over 60 years.
It's recommended as a source of proteins for vegans... but the thing is I'm seeing this in meat products. Literally all processed meat products where I live have soy proteins in them now. Beef, pork, even chicken. Almost all hot dog brands, every single salami in the stores, most processed chicken dishes, frozen Asian dishes, the list goes on.
The part that concerns me is that there's been no discussion about it anywhere. It's like it's been snuck into people's food and someone's hoping no one notices or speaks up.
So I figured I'd ask you guys what you think. Is this an ingredient in some kind of nutrition-based conspiracy, or was I just unlucky and missed some big important memo that was handed out years ago?
It is just hidden inflation. Let's assume that ten years ago a hot-dog sausage had price $1. It was 100% pork.
Ten years pass and 100% pork sausage now will cost $3 It is 200% more, so 20% a year inflation.
To hide that, you silently replace pork with soy protein, keeping the price low. So, in ten years you have 50% pork 50% soy protein with price $1.7 where $1.5 is pork and 0.2 is soy protein. It is %70 in 10 years or %7 a year visible inflation if you calculate it using the price of hot-dog sausage.
Something like that.
It is just direct, open cheating. There are also a lot of hidden things - "cut meat consumption because livestock is bad for climate", "lower useful content in food to force people eat more", "make people used to fake meat", etc.
Brilliant! Dude i got to be your friend. I've never would think of it along that line and to me it makes total sense.
Look into ersatz goods.
This has been done before.
They do things in cycles...like Spanish Flu/COVID. 100 Year cycle it looks like.
soy is in everything because it turns you gay
Cheap filler, it’s been in fast-food burgers since the 70’s. It’s made by using hexane, a petroleum product... that supposedly “evaporates” and isn’t in the finished product. It used to be called TVP. The “Health Ranger” Mike Adams and many others say that unless soy is fermented and non-gmo, it’s poison. So in that thought, I think natto, and Miso are pretty good, but Tempé is kind of gross.
Filler. It's been in practically all packaged foods for decades. I'm allergic to soy, so I had to avoid it anyway, but almost everything has soy flour, soy protein or soy oil. Soy oil also is shown to cause retardation.
Carl's Jr also has a butt ton of soy in their patties. They're like 30% soy. I avoid Carl's Jr now too.
Practically all breads are made with at least either soy flour or soy oil, sometimes both. The poison is everywhere.
I don't know if they add anything else beside soy protein , but big amounts of soy cause hormonal changes.
There was an article of a 60 y old man having changes in emotions and reproductive organs by drinking a lot of soy milk. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18558591/
Also there is this article about infants who drank soy formula and had small changes according to the study. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180312150509.htm
And there is this article that in japan researchers turned male catfish into female using a soy extract isoflavone. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210526/p2a/00m/0sc/014000c
The thing is that in usa there are even more things with estrogen activity. I think they inject cows with female hormones in order to produce more milk. And you don't need to have articles from researchers who can be bribed , to tell you that there is something wrong, you can easily tell by looking at new generations .
Great comments here so far!
I will echo some : soy proteins mimic estrogen, and make men more docile (like women) and cause them to grow tits / store fat where women do (and for the same reasons).
Soy is also riddled with glyphosate which is cancerous and highly poisonous, and is in high (and obviously much MORE unsafe) concentrations in such extracts. It is another (of thousands if not more) clandestine depopulation strategy.
Anything that says soy on it should be avoided, and guar gum is a code word / pseudonym for it. Anything fried or containing/using soybean oil, soy lecithin and other such extracts, etc. should be avoided.
It is also a method to hide inflation, as mentioned by other commenters.
Soy in chicken breasts especially cause the moob.
growing soy destroys the land
Thanks for the great post (FrozenEagle) and these comments are amazing....I'll definitely be staying away from soy filled products.
The chicken used at Subway is about half soy, for example. Soy contains estrogen and is a target-rich environment for pesticides and GMO. Controlled amounts of soy intake that one might experience while enjoying Asian cuisine is at least not going to kill you any faster, assuming it comes from an organic source. Drinking soy, consuming soy-based meat substitutes and fillers is insane. Early research shows that cabbage has been demonstrated to remove excess estrogen from the body. Quite a disturbing number of vegetables are being genetically modified to transmit vaccines, but soy and corn have been GMO'd for a long time.
Thank you all, for the replies and insights.
I had guessed at the 'filler' part of soy proteins, but not to the extents you bring up. Literally food for thought. ;)
The nutritional and negative values I had also heard about, but only in passing. It's probably one of those cases where you'd have to eat a bathtub full of the stuff on a daily basis for the negative aspects to fully kick in... but when they're putting the bad stuff into all the foods, that anecdote gets quite close to reality...
To give a little more context regarding local meat products - there is no such thing here as 100% pork-sausages/hot dogs. The closest is a 98% 'keto' hot dog, and it's got soy proteins in it. (The most popular hot dog brand here only has 65% pork in it, most of the remainder is water.)
Strangely enough burgers are one of the few meat products here that are soy-free, but that only applies to the store-bought ones, I have no idea what the hamburger joints are using (and I'm not inclined to find out).
Our biggest pizza chain has soy in almost everything on the menu, only their bacon and pepperoni is still soy free.
But one question remains for me: What about regular soy sauce? How bad is that, compared to all these soy-derivatives?
Soy sauce is fermented.
For women, it can be very good for you. For men, your prostate doesn't like too much. Go for the pea protein.