Don't be sorry, I reply him only to give others a different point of view, not to satisfy him. :) He is already fall into endless loop, so out of business.
May I ask, how do Russians view the current war?
Most don't understand why it was done in that strange way, not just recognition of DPR/LPR with following military support in current DPR/LPR limits. There is no any desire to acquire any additional Ukrainian territory, or to merge Ukraine into Russia in that group.
Of course there is noticeable part thet supports anything government do, and also noticeable part that think this is an absolute crime.
Also, Ukrainians for that matter.
Ukrainians mostly angry.
I feel the 2014 coup was indeed an escalation of force on the West's part.
Kind of. West was definitely in that coup, but I think that was planned and people on the streets really decided nothing.
As usual elite do what they need and people suffer.
As usual elite do what they need and people suffer.
Thats the perfect way to explain it.
I dont think Russia wants Ukraine as an actual territory. I believe Putin when he says hes removing NATO/West.
Im certain we are in Ukraine covertly, paying off politicans, investing in biolabs, etc.
However, Russia does the exact same thing to Ukraine. Putin probably wants Ukraine "independently" pro Russian. (Russian installed leardership.)
Ukrainians wanting protection from Russia is understandable.
However, NATO and the west can be just as nefarious.
What Russia does overtly, the West does covertly.
Its like, an impossible situation. I wish Ukraine could have its sovereignty and everyone agree to maintain it. That would the peace treaty right there. Ukraine is a very strategic position for both sides so that would be fair.
I believe that was actually the deal previously with the Belovezh Accords and both sides were breaking it secretly.
Elitist don't care. It is all so stupid. The answer is simple but everyone at the top is greedy.
Sorry to ramble about how I feel about it. Im glad to hear how you guys in the east feel. Im sorry this is going on on your lands and hurting your peoples. I apologize for our involvement in causing any of this.
PS: You will laugh, but even Peskov, official spokeman of Putin, some time ago openly told to the press that he is using VPN to access the officially censored Western MSM, because using VPN is perfectly legal in Russia.
You literally state here that it is censored in Russia.
Do you understnad that if something is censored by government absolutely does not mean that people do not have access to that?
Do you understand that any government law or order could be ignored or worked around? Why should I teach somebody from the west (or Israel?) about free will and other stuff?
/u/crazyrussian : thank you for exposing op as a liar!
That is not true. OP didn't lie at all. All western media is available and discussed in Russia without any problems.
You are a liar.
Thank you for sharing info on the state of things in Russia. Sorry for the Troll.
May I ask, how do Russians view the current war? Also, Ukrainians for that matter.
(For reference, I feel the 2014 coup was indeed an escalation of force on the West's part. However, I am sad for the people involved.)
Don't be sorry, I reply him only to give others a different point of view, not to satisfy him. :) He is already fall into endless loop, so out of business.
Most don't understand why it was done in that strange way, not just recognition of DPR/LPR with following military support in current DPR/LPR limits. There is no any desire to acquire any additional Ukrainian territory, or to merge Ukraine into Russia in that group.
Of course there is noticeable part thet supports anything government do, and also noticeable part that think this is an absolute crime.
Ukrainians mostly angry.
Kind of. West was definitely in that coup, but I think that was planned and people on the streets really decided nothing.
As usual elite do what they need and people suffer.
Thats the perfect way to explain it.
I dont think Russia wants Ukraine as an actual territory. I believe Putin when he says hes removing NATO/West.
Im certain we are in Ukraine covertly, paying off politicans, investing in biolabs, etc.
However, Russia does the exact same thing to Ukraine. Putin probably wants Ukraine "independently" pro Russian. (Russian installed leardership.)
Ukrainians wanting protection from Russia is understandable.
However, NATO and the west can be just as nefarious.
What Russia does overtly, the West does covertly.
Its like, an impossible situation. I wish Ukraine could have its sovereignty and everyone agree to maintain it. That would the peace treaty right there. Ukraine is a very strategic position for both sides so that would be fair.
I believe that was actually the deal previously with the Belovezh Accords and both sides were breaking it secretly.
Elitist don't care. It is all so stupid. The answer is simple but everyone at the top is greedy.
Sorry to ramble about how I feel about it. Im glad to hear how you guys in the east feel. Im sorry this is going on on your lands and hurting your peoples. I apologize for our involvement in causing any of this.
You literally state here that it is censored in Russia.
Are you insane?
Do you understnad that if something is censored by government absolutely does not mean that people do not have access to that?
Do you understand that any government law or order could be ignored or worked around? Why should I teach somebody from the west (or Israel?) about free will and other stuff?