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posted 3 years ago by pkvi 3 years ago by pkvi +10 / -6
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– KiloRomeo 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Can we plot on a map where tunnel collapses occurred? Otherwise, why not the other nearby buildings. Building 7 was being used to warehouse secret data.

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– BidenLikesMiners 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

nice try, fauc

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– no_ez 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I heard there was looting of gold via underground tunnels... this would be a perfect way to close off the way behind them.

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– Questionable 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

O.K. Now can you explain to us why they didn't say this 21 years ago?

Or how about in the next 7500 days? Seems they had plenty of time to say something during that time. Any reason for their silence on this rational during that time?

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– Questionable 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Which lead to the Question. Why would the subways effect the structures that far away from buildings 1 and 2? Implode, or explode?

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– no_ez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Larry said “pull it”

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

when 1 and 2 fell they imploded the tunnels

The tunnels were barely de-stabilized at all. There is video footage of guys walking around down there after collapse looking for survivors. The carparks are mostly unaffected. There's a shopping area, same. There is some damage but the subway tunnels are mostly intact (though strewn with dust and debris). The whole underground WTC complex is bizarrely unscathed, except for the large gaping holes at ground zero down to the underground - but those don't correspond to the mass of the towers falling through the ground. They are in odd places, like where half of WTC 6 was for example.

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Subterranean infrastructure doesn't hold up anything, it's generally built in such a way that it does not effect the load bearing of the surrounding material, which is supporting the buildings above.

Where buildings were built on "reclaimed land" from the Hudson, the foundations are actually laid on bedrock that would have been below the water and even sea/riverbed. This is ironically an even sturdier more reliable base to build on; than a higher up layer of compacted clay, earth, sand, whatever. The major risk with such building projects is water, flooding, since that is where the water naturally wants to be.

If you really want to be conspiracy-contrarian about the destruction of buildings in the WTC: you could bring up the fact that WTC7 had huge tanks of fuel that normal skyscrapers don't usually have - because of Mayor Giuliani's bizarre decision to put his "bunker" on a high-up floor there.

He was sharply criticized, and strongly advised not to put his bunker at such a location, expressly because it would require these large fuel tanks to be housed high up in the building (off-grid, emergency electricity generation for the emergency control center), creating a massive potential fire hazard in a high rise building. He did it anyway.

I think most people don't know about this when they mock the "out-of-control-fires" scenario with regards to WTC7 - but it could be (i don't know the exact amounts) that WTC7 actually had even more highly flammable liquid stored in it than the towers - so much that an out-of-control fire may actually structurally weaken it.

What if, of the 3 major building collapses that day - WTC7 - the "only one not hit by a plane" - was actually the most straight-forward, easily explainable collapse? Fires started by the collapse of the other buildings quickly became uncontrollable because of Rudy's massive fuel tanks. Wouldn't labeling it as the weirdest one and focusing attention on it, as the "9-11 truth-community" always does; wouldn't that be a great distraction from the utterly bizarre, impossible and inexplicable collapses of the two towers? Something to think about.

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– WindyJibbz 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not possible.

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