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what the actual hell is going on with the these Pig organ transplants? this is really eerie and reeks of human experimentation (www.ctvnews.ca)
posted 3 years ago by BladesLastBottle 3 years ago by BladesLastBottle +8 / -0
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– factdigger 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Pigs closest to humans for organ transplants. Also plentiful and cheap and not as pesky as chimpanzees.

The physical immortality seeking materialists know their bodies break apart. China demographic is getting older.

They are planning for their glorious "transhumanist immortal future".

And they will fail. Humans are more than just biological machines.

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– Throawat555555 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/xenotransplantation

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– jubyeonin 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

Pig hearts are commonly used as replacements, but they have some issues. They also encase human hearts in cow pericardium when someone gets surgery for pericarditis or myocarditis.

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– Ep0ch 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It was actually the first one done. I believe. And he died horribly.

The pig has been used increasingly on the others. Upto heart. They're not at brains either. Otherwise it's definitely monkey.

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– jubyeonin 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

This was the first one with a genetically modified heart to prevent rejection. Pig hearts have been used for decades.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Apparently they have been using almost everything, even monkey hearts. If Rejection has been that issue; How was it a legal op. Die if you do, die if you don't. Cruelty. These people except miracles but they have experimented. Isn't it better to die, can't save. Have some dignity. I didn't realise it was that Dr. Moreau. But I can imagine in places without standards and ethics anything goes. Many of those places are also illegally organ harvesting. Sick World.

Thanks. It was aired as the first. Yea, Modified heart. Apology didn't get into it further. I had briefly read about it, and it being 3D printed using pig stems and organs or etc. But it was experimental. So I didn't read further. If I recall they've labgrown, 3d printed, eyes, hearts too.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Saw a public display of 3d printers in action at a ted talk type open event series, where anyone could present.

Shortly after, the entire event series shut down permanently.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It has only just hit within this decade, a lot is experimental. Until the tech is open market, much more is gag orders. Especially as there are rejections and topically there are also ethics.

But I don't know if you saw Hotel Artemis or Elysium is that rationality. Portable med units that can perform complete surgery without much more than a nurse. These are Syfi. Practically nowhere near it. The cost is also absurd. It also takes far more lab work to get it too the table.

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– BladesLastBottle [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

what the fuck, this shit flew under the radar for me

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

AFAIK pigs organs are used for a long time as temporary replacements to get some time to find a donor.

IDK about ethics and other stuff, but if we eat them, why not use them for other stuff? All that hearts, kdneys, whatever is just a biological mechanisms that make our body, not us. Of course it is better to grow|print a new replacement from your own cells, but this technology is still far from mass production.

Since BigPharma absolutely don't care about producing real drugs that will really prevent damage and cure our body and make all that transplantation stuff unnecessary and instead make profit from some barely working or even poisonous shit, and MDs are so incompetent that could only replace whole organs instead of fixing real problems, pigs organs transplants don't look like something very weird. May be some good man will get some chance thanks to a pig.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who is this we?

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Those who eat pigs, obviously. Not the Jews or Muslims. Pigs are not kosher for them to eat and probably to use their parts as spare.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If not eaten. Not inserted either. Logic.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't get what you mean. What's your point?

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– alltheleavesarebrown 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

True followers of god and conscience wont put pig in their body.

Surgically or through chew.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

True followers of god and conscience wont put pig in their body. Surgically or through chew.

Are you jewish or muslim? Or maybe you are vegan? If your beliefs or taboos don't allow you to eat pork or use pigs for other purposes, just don't do it. Not a problem at all. Just don't try to expand or push your personal faith onto others, and everything will be OK.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

At Starbucks I once met a vegan into bestiality porn.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If you can use livestock it is much better, and fresh, and a match. However the heart didn't take. Person died 2 months later and probably in agony. I am not sure about others from pigs like lungs etc.

But again and also the stemcells for 3d printing. Easier from livestock. If it matches. 3d printing has recreated almost everything in the body. But it is nowhere near being a standard. The costs.

With organs they need a donor. On death most organs harvested aren't used. They're often used for dissection and other experimentation. Few make donors in time, but they do in tiny margins. The government owns you, in most medicine today, unless you opt out. Literally modern graverobbers. It is how Western surgery was created. But there is a huge illegal trade of supposed donors.

So instead it is looking for newer methods, pig is one of the closest matches. It is livestock and abundant, and being used increasingly in transplants. I am not sure if it is direct or tweaked by 3d printing. Not reading much more into it until it moves past the current human trials. It is still largely experimental stages.

Modified in the article. 3d printed off stemcells. Labgrown. Lungs I believe have taken and perhaps others like maybe even kidneys etc?

Ethically not everybody will want pig donors either.

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