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Is Quantum Mechanics bullshit? Anon sure thinks so... (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by clemaneuverers 3 years ago by clemaneuverers +17 / -7
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– VicariousJambi 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

You might be interested in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mwlxr-xcjs

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– IGOexiled 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

They put scientists underground for a decade looking for dark matter, and all they ended up seeing was an atom of noble gas decay.

It's not just quantum mechanics that they're faking. EVERYONE needs grant money, and most the checks are signed by people who don't know science. It's mo$tly far$e at this point.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

There are two completely different things mixed.

  1. Equations of quantum mechanics works perfectly. You could easily check it just by turning on laser pointer and do some reserch on how it works and why. Of course, quantum theory is not complete, since it interfere with dormas of relativity, so, to keep that shitty relativity theory, quantum mechanics is somewhat suspended by grant dispatching entities.

  2. Things that named "quantum computers" have nearly nothing to do with computing. Some devices they name "quantum computers" exists, but they barely useful. See that conversation for further info - https://conspiracies.win/p/140InHzSkO/x/c/4JINTpubqm9

So, "quantum computers" are bullshit, yes, but that does not make quantum mechanics obsolete.

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– SevenThunders 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Funny but Quantum mechanics and the standard model is considered the most successful physical theory of all time. Without it we would have no solid state electronic devices.

Einstein hated it, and his theory of general relativity has already been falsified on large scales. Hence dark matter, dark energy, expansion etc. This person has it exactly wrong.

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– clemaneuverers [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I've not looked into it, but I am inclined to agree since I know particle physics is very similarly bullshit.

Source:

https://warosu.org/sci/thread/12523471#p12523905

Actually, I found it on 4chan/x/ but I searched for the original source, and this on /sci/ is the earliest i could find (from 2020)

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– clemaneuverers [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Read through "Hoaxfag" s replies there to get more about his point of view. I guess he was the OP, I don't know why he posted the text as an image though. Anyway, he expounds more in the replies.

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– VicariousJambi 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I love how he doesn't really say anything specific just some vague bullshit about how its fake. Like I'm all for stuff being fake and lies, I'm a flat earther myself, but you actually have to prove your point, not just call it names.

This gets into Quantum Physics quite a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mwlxr-xcjs

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– thughes 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Uh no.

https://www.dwavesys.com

They've been in business for many years, and have quantum computers. They're functional, you can use them via API right now. They're used to compute complex algorithms. Most of Big Tech algorithms are now written by quantum computers.

Google has quantum computers, IBM has them, and so does pretty much everyone else. They've been used in consumer facing products for at least 5-6 years now.

Quantum mechanics, and quantum computing are also two very different things. One is theoretical, the other is a practical application of said theory in actual technology.

There's definitely some quantum fuckery, as in they're opening the door to some kind of AI overlord, and yes there's weird religious shit... but the technology is very fucking real and already happening.

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– clemaneuverers [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Most of Big Tech algorithms are now written by quantum computers.

Google has quantum computers, IBM has them, and so does pretty much everyone else. They've been used in consumer facing products for at least 5-6 years now.

This just makes me less confident that everything is as they say it is.

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– thughes 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I mean the power of AI is horrifying, don't get me wrong. All of this censorship and surveillance tech is happening because of advances in AI.

The tech these companies have right now is crazy. It's just gaining more and more power every year. But to argue quantum computers don't exist? That's just silly.

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– whiskeywhiskey 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I looked into it a bit deeper after reading some of the articles linked above. AWS offers three different brands of quantum computers as instances you can rent. Two of them are 2-qubit systems max. The D-wave systems claim to be "5000+ qubit", but that's nonsense or marketing half-truths. I'm not sure why, but I'm sure.

These are offered to "scientists", I don't think there's very much real world application for them at this point. If they're using quantum computing in ML, it's only to do some of the linear regression math, and probably isn't all that interesting compared to the massive tensorcore farms that they're using for production ML.

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– thughes 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

D-wave achieves 5000+ qubits by networking a bunch of quantum computers together into an aggregated cloud platform. It is marketing speak, but its also true at the same time. You are able to leverage that total aggregate quantum processing power.

Quantum computing is good a specific data aggregation and predictive analysis tasks. It's best utilized when using a traditional computing system with it, so you get the best of both worlds. Basically hybrid processing, you let traditional processors do what quantum does poorly, and let quantum processors do what traditional processors can't. That's what D-Wave's market is focused on.

A good example, is Google used quantum computers to design algorithms for eye detection with Google Glass. Quantum computers have some really interesting use-cases when analyzing massive amounts of data. But ultimately the software to do much more with them literally doesn't exist yet. We're barely scratching the surface of what quantum computing is capable of, and again the more logical systems are going to be hybrid systems in the future that leverage both quantum processing and traditional processors in the same IO.

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– whiskeywhiskey 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My gut says that the "5000+ qubit" systems are probably more like dressed up neural network optimized silicon with fancy expensive cryogenics systems for an air of legitimacy.

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– clemaneuverers [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Please forgive my anonymous letter but I consider myself a whistleblower.

All I can tell you about me is that I am a theoretical physicist and I have discovered something that affects everyone in the scientific community with equal importance.

There is no easy way to say this but quantum mechanics is a fever dream fantasy of untestable theories, imagined by scientists working by candlelight because it was hundreds of years ago.

There is no evidence of any aspect of practical applications for quantum mechanics other than assumption and the entire field is fraudulent and relies on pseudoscience to appear valid.

A really good example of the fabrication of data etc. by organizations with a vested commercial interest in quantum is the LIGO investigation, dozens of scientists all working together throwing random numbers at their simulations until they appear viable.

This timeline begins primarily with Einstein and his paper on the photoelectric effect, there were competing theories from other scientists but politics awarded Einstein with the Nobel Prize for an untestable theory he had that couldn’t be criticized as it would have been considered anti sematic as Einstein was Jewish.

The main reason for such a miscarriage of the peer review process was because of the coinciding world wars which had all available physicists being hired to work on the Manhattan project etc., nonmilitary physics was essentially abandoned for several decades.

The thing is Einstein didn’t know about background cosmic radiation as it wasn’t discovered until the mid-1960s, so all of Einstein’s theories on the propagation of light had been desperate workaround solutions that offered no real answers

The truth is we don’t have any working quantum technology and we never have. The modern quantum hoax is that we apparently have working quantum computers. But the problem with that idea is that we do not.

The truth is we don’t have any working quantum technology and we never have. The modern quantum hoax is that we apparently have working quantum computers. But the problem with that idea is that we do not. There are no working quantum computers unless we cheat and use modified definitions of words such as "working” and “computer” as these machines don’t actually do anything

If you would like to know how this could have possibly gotten so out of hand the answer is some quantum mechanical interpretations offer a working system containing a God, so quantum mechanics has been embraced by religious leaders all over the world as a fundamental belief system, the Vatican has a quantum research lab for example

Now this is where it gets ridiculous. There is still no viable process to peer review quantum physics research papers. What this means is that you can publish gibberish quantum research papers and they still get published. The best example of this is the bognadof controversy. Two brothers wrote a satirical PhD thesis and were awarded doctorates in physics. Another example is the sokal affair with gibberish papers being published intentionally to criticize the peer review process.

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