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New Study: NO difference in viral load between unvaccinated vs vaccinated..."requires a reassessment of compulsory vaccination policies" (www.thelancet.com)
posted 3 years ago by axolotl_peyotl 3 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +49 / -1
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– Shockadee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's already been shown that the vaccinated carry 250x the viral load of a vaccine free infected person.

Not sure how they reconcile

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– Mrexreturns 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

And there also needs a reassessment on lockdowns, travel bans, social distancing or anything that wouldn't even look out of place in Pol Pot instead of a pandemic.

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– HerAlterEgo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Been saying the whole time that "less likely to be hospitalized or die" is a Shrodinger's Cat scenario.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2009/09/10/210037/how-to-create-quantum-superpositions-of-living-things/

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– Redsky 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm having trouble finding the full PDF study referenced

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– DavidColeIntrepid 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And they both shed spike proteins at the same rate

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– some_crypto_guy 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

That’s not new. Nasal titers show higher viral load in the vaccinated. Injections do nothing to produce antibodies where the virus reproduces, in the nasal passages and upper respiratory tract. The cdc admitted this months ago but it was not picked up by the media and was promptly memory holed.

You might also be interested to know that asmptomatic spread of covid is a myth and wearing a mask when you are not symptomatic has effectively zero impact on transmission rates.

Reinfection is also a myth in all but the immune compromised. People are getting tested with faulty tests and think they are catching covid over and over. They aren’t. It’s a one in a million thing.

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– deleted -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3
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– dukey -3 points 3 years ago +2 / -5

If there is no difference in viral load how can the vaccine possibly be doing anything?

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Virus replicates exponentially until constraints like inflammation, distance to uninfected cells, and killer T cells place an upper limit on how much it can replicate.

A constantly produced, low level of antibody like the mRNA vaccines produce just lowers the exponent a tiny bit and the virus reaches the same upper limit. The body has a little more time to react and there's tiny bit less spread throughout so you get slightly less chance of dying.

A real vaccine or being infected teaches the body to recognize the virus so when you get infected the body massively increases antibodies enough to lower the exponent below 1 and the virus can't spread from cell to cell at all. That's why you never get sick more than once from the same virus.

The viral load being the same is proof that the body is not recognizing the virus and making tons of antibodies. Normally when you recover the body keeps producing antibodies proactively for a while just to prevent reinfection from somebody you gave it to - this is all the vaccines do, provide this temporary mild protection against infection.

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– S8-10 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A real vaccination would amp up your immune response to the point that you no longer experience symptoms of infection by this virus, even if directly exposed to it.

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