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James O’Keefe & Project Veritas have FOIA’d the DOJ/FBI for all communications, Including the NYT (www.digitalsoldiers.show)
posted 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +44 / -1
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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

Ah yes because the government has such a stellar record when it comes to transparency and self policing.

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– captain-shitpost 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

Dear government, tell us all the devious shit you've been plotting against us. Sincerely, the cucked.

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– Dualkalibur 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Since the FBI does as it pleases anyways, what’s to ensure they release all the relevant information? They could release 3 pages of 3000, say there it all is, and ignore any pushback. Who’s supposed to be overseeing them?

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– Mad_King_Kalak 0 points 4 years ago +3 / -3

FOIA is a law, so if they don't comply, theoretically the courts. What happens when there is material not handed over, is during the process of discovery during a lawsuit (and there will be one I suspect) it will be obvious what was not given over during FOIA that was applicable.

This is how that Tom Fitton guy at Judicial Watch is make public previously unreleased data. Courts are very zealous defenders of their own powers, and hate it when executive branch agencies hide documents relevant to a lawsuit.

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– Dualkalibur 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

I have some faith in your courts again after the rittenhouse trial verdict, but seen far too much fuckery to trust them completely. Plus the FBI seems to have its own rules in regards to, well, everything. Classify something as a matter of national security and it won’t be released. “Lose” it like hunters laptop, weiners laptop, epsteins files and hard drives etc. I would like to think the courts will do what’s right, but unless they barge into the FBI office with guns and warrants and root through all the files themselves to get all the files, I don’t trust the FBI to hand everything over, laws or no laws.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 0 points 4 years ago +3 / -3

I would just say, that this idea, that each branch of government would be a defender of it's own powers, thus providing a check against tyranny, because it wouldn't want the other branches to usurp its importance, has worked out fairly well. Not across the board by any means, but "ambition to counteract ambition" was one of Hamilton's better ideas.

So you've correctly pointed out the big question? What happens when you ignore the courts? The courts have no purse like Congress to bribe people into compliance and no sword like the executive branch to force it. They can occasionally use the Marshals as an enforcement arm, but it's very rare to have something like FBI vs Marshals.

Ultimately, what Courts have, is this belief in the "rule of law" behind them. The FBI could blow them off for years and years, just like how the FISA court was dicked around with Russiagate, and nothing may come of it like nothing happened to those who lied to the FISA courts, except for FBI lawyers losing their cases, being held in contempt, and the public being shown a litany of wrongdoings.

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– Dualkalibur 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Therein lies the real problem. Without true accountability, the FBI is free to do whatever it wants, redact and sit on whatever it wants.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 0 points 4 years ago +3 / -3

Okay, that's cool. But all he will get back is pages of redacted material.

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– Corporis -4 points 4 years ago +1 / -5

Project Veritas is one of the last real journalists, they have far more credibility than the likes of cnn, msnbc or wapo whom have become mouthpieces for the criminal democrat party.

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