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posted 4 years ago by pkvi 4 years ago by pkvi +30 / -2
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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Oy veh!

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– turtlebam 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

When I think I knew all the things they have been responsible for, I swear everyday something new comes up!

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– SuicideTruthbomber 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Are all ethnic groups responsible for the actions of some of their predecessors?

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– Biostrike14 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

only if they continue them

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– SuicideTruthbomber 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

What I am getting at is that you can say that everyone on earth is part of an ethnic group in which individuals perpetrated atrocities. Do you hold them all responsible for what was done by other people who were alive centuries ago? If not, why do you hold people of a particular ethnic group accountable in this manner?

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– SuicideTruthbomber -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

Of course they are an ethnic group. Don't be silly.

So one group gets blamed for things other people did long ago and at the same time you complain when other people get blamed for things that happened before they were born. You justify this by claiming the bad things that some people do are in some way intrinsic to that ethnic group. In this case you are citing slave ownership. Can you name one Jew who owns a slave?

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– SuicideTruthbomber -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

Thank you for proving my point.

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– BlackDay2020 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Of course they are an ethnic group.

What is the word for someone who follows Judaism? (eg: Buddhist for someone following Buddhism). It can't be "Jew" according to you, since that is an ethnic group, and not a religious one.

You justify this by claiming the bad things that some people do are in some way intrinsic to that ethnic group.

Why not? If you replace "ethnic" with "religious", there are certainly groups whose religion promotes ill treatment of other groups. Where do you think Islamic extremism comes from? Does Judaism preach any different? What does Talmud say about slaves (especially pagan ones)?

Anyone following such a religion would be viewed with suspicion because it's not obvious to what extent they accept the teachings of their religion.

And if an ethnic group Y exclusively believes in one religion X, then logically any criticism of group X can be applied to group Y, it being a subset of X.

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– SuicideTruthbomber 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

What is the word for someone who follows Judaism? (eg: Buddhist for someone following Buddhism). It can't be "Jew" according to you, since that is an ethnic group, and not a religious one.

False dichotomy. Are you trying to play the "they are not a people" game?

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– BlackDay2020 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's not to delegitimize them.

Try answering the question: Buddhist is to Buddhism as .....[Jew?] is to Judaism. And Black is to Africa as ....[Semite?] is to (part of) Middle East. In the process, you will discover my point.

Such confusion/vagueness doesn't exist for any other religious group, and so in case of Jews it seems artificially engineered to me.

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