This has happened before. There was old science on natural remedies, new science (paid by rockefeller) showed that it was all superstition. New science has started or killed several diet fads: tea and coffee bad, milk good, chocolate bad, cholestrol bad, chocolate good, tea good, milk bad, coffee good, etc.
Never forget that 19th and 20th century scientists were already fully valid scientists, most books were much more carefully peer-reviewed (and edited) that today's books and less carefully politicized.
From clinical experience (physician), I think this is correct. Almost NO ONE leaves MJ, once established... where most eventually leave opioids. The hook isn't severe, which seems to be why people think of it as non-addicting; but the momentum of an MJ-habit is second only to Tobacco IMO. It's maybe easier for a drunk to quit, than for a pothead. It's probably also easier To Lose Weight than To Quit Tokin'. SEX addicts are rare and treatable, but CANNIBIS addicts don't evenwantto quit; ever, in general.
Like Nicotine, it's a 3-fold addiction: physiologic/social/habit, but UNLIKE Nicotine, it accesses an upregulation pathway for disgust (like opioids do for pain); this means the physiologic dependency is long term AND specific; where Tobacco products are long term and general (and weaker). I think that is what makes MJ hard to jettison: people like mellow/hungry/accepting; disgust is unpleasant, as life-saving as it is...
5-10 miles a day, distance runner, put down over 70 marathons (got the telemetry to prove it), also now power lifting, all the time per rest and..... buddy, I do it all during before and after, smoking the ganj.
The hook isn't severe, which seems to be why people think of it as non-addicting
I wouldn't consider it addicting all all, and more a problem with certainly personality or psychological types. There are many things in my life I don't particularly want to 'quit', but don't consider myself 'addicted'.
Even if I'm not smoking cannabis at the moment, I'm not swearing to never smoke again. Does that mean I'm addicted? Then there's food. Almost no one leaves food, unless they're a very dedicated Breatharian.
I mean, when 'the hook' is so mild that you can take it or leave it, can that really be considered an addiction? Do you really have to swear off something forever for it to not be an addiction?
They can cause weight loss, but the stink, compulsive cravings, lung damage, and cancer they cause were something that big tobacco couldn't keep covered up forever.
Cannabis is very addictive. They sooner put shit in it. Sometimes causing addiction. Some even lace it with other drugs like coke to cause addiction. Others add chems to the crop to get much higher yields of php. The nicotine it is mixed with on smoking is more addictive than heroin. Many want the weak high to last, increasing its use until they pass out, making it a gateway drug. This is due to the way it is sourced. Also the shit they put in it. But you can become resistance to it.
The fact, it slows reactions massively can make it dangerous to use when operating machinery, similar to alcohol, many can white-out on cannabis use. Although lots of pharma medicines are worse in their affects. However there is increasing side affects of paranoia associated with its constant use, where dopamine can cause schizophrenia.
Of course this isn't always the case, not everybody takes huge amounts. Any effects vary.
But instead of a bunch of echoes proclaiming this article is wrong there should be both sides.
I don't think anything except poison should be illegal. Take what you want and live with it. But in today's bullshit society of rules, it is a no brainer that they will restrict the use of something you could easily grow yourself because they often want to sell you something even more costly.
you say Cannabis is very addictive. then talk about people adding stuff to it and contaminating it to make it addictive.
Pick one.
Either it is very addictive, or people put things in to make it addictive.
And higher yeilds of php in the cannabis? what the fuck are you talking about? WTF is php?
And I have seen people quit nicotine for life, but every herion addict i have seen has crawled back to it when life got hard again, so I need to see stats on how much more addictive nicotine in vs herion. Coz, that stat sounds like bullshit.
you sound like you read anti-drug pamphlets once in the 80s and believed every word.
You are retarded. Your tone is akin to a little bitch, whining at me.
People do add stuff to it all the time. As I said, lacing it with many other substances simply to cause increased sales. Simply adding small amounts of coke or crack to it causes increased addiction. Or by genetically modifing it altering at plant level producing higher growth chemically enhancing to cause greater potency and addiction. It has a weak high many become resistant towards and therefore increase their intake and use, causing addiction. It is a gateway drug leading to further experimentation and other drugs.
Pcp fucko. Who cares. Except a junkie.
Nicotine even on a simple GOOGLE is one of the most addictive drugs. Stated to be more addictive than heroin. Smoking is hell to kick and once kicked the smell of it causes craving or agitation, for the rest of a lifetime. It is added to cannabis on smoking, causing increasing addiction to cannabis. Smoking is a lifestyle it causes compulsion/addiction. Unless you fill that void with another compulsion many struggle to break free of its addiction.
I don't give one little shit about what you think you know. You sound like an idiot.
Which is it, cannabis is addictive, fucko, that is it. Process next time. Junkie. But junkies don't, because they are addicted.
congratulations. your opinion is less than worthless.
that being said...
Simply adding small amounts of coke or crack to it causes increased addiction.
Translated to English: *Simply adding small amounts of addictive substances causes addiction. *
My god you are a genius, please guide us oh mighty guru.
Edit: you forgot to mention the crystal meth that grows in the cannbis, or that dealers routinely cut in semen to activate the LSD and DMT.
if you want to have an opinion about cannabis, make it about cannabis, not additives some people in some areas add to it. and at least make sure you actually talk about shit that gets added to it, fucking coke? who the fuck would add that to cannabis?
Your opinion is a junkie's. No wonder you are on a cannabis support thread arguing it is not addictive. The epitome of a cliche. A mindless drug addled thoughtless frothing zombie. Typical of a pot head being beyond all rationality, arguing with no candor when an outsider doesn't partake of their poison.
Which part of processing all of the types of addiction cannabis offers, had you confused. Obviously a junkie confused all of it, stereotypically. Cannabis is addictive from all of its use. Not just the additives added. Where you've admitted for the rest of the class that you routinely ingest semen when you take it. Druggies do that, they sell their ass to pay for their habits, until they are getting snuffed.
PCP added sure, in various types of class A, skunk.
Hoot more gorilla. There was nothing stupid about what I said.
You dumbly repeated it back. Maybe I should feel flattered you are repeating what I said. No it doesn't make it wrong. If it was wrong why are you repeating it. See what you did there. I guess it is because you're really dumb, you had no other argument except repeating me. Sure you tried to mock aimlessly, bringing up how you downvote everybody you repeat.
Do I honestly give one little shit what a gorilla thinks, a drug addled, stupid gorilla. Go and post it.
Read what you wrote, it proves how ignorant you are. You have just told this entire forum; you are a retard.
You are in a drugs topic being a junkie. Stereotypical, a cliche. You must have autism and schizophrenia if you think you are being rational. Read what you wrote, it is the epitome of retarded. There is no argument. Read what you wrote in your last reply too. Being a nigger is no excuse for it either. You need help, therapy, and an education. You are literally retarded. Read it for yourself. There is no intelligence in your reply, you have autistically assumed yourself to be superior, but you have said nothing, instead you try to mock. How can you mock, if you produce zero argument. It makes you illiterate. Druggies are like that. A likeminded club of the delusionally insane laughing to themselves in some kind of private joke. Joke is on you, you are ignorant, stupid, and irrational. You should be committed. Read the way you spoke. You are schizophrenic.
You are one dumb son of a bitch. Christmas special. South Park.
Aside many dealers do it all the time. It causes addiction. The effects of crack are what? Crackheads pick through feces looking for another hit. They smoke ash looking for another hit. Lace cannabis with an even more addictive substance using trace amounts of it. What happens, it makes more sales. The plants are also modified, lock stock and two smoking barrels, because these people cut in more chems into the plant producing way higher yields and varities. Until you get the synth shit now. Zombie weed. These people don't stop smoking it one after another after another catatonically doing nothing else.
But fuck you retard. Don't tell me shit. I used examples to make that point. I don't need to do anything else. You fucking spastic. Don't talk shit to me.
What part of South Park Christmas Special are you arguing with? The part where because you are a complete retard you tell everybody globally something doesn't exist, despite it being shown in a cartoon that grows and deals cannabis.
You dumb stupid fucking retard. I don't give one little shit what you think you know. You know, nothing. Fuck off nigger.
People are addicted to it. Anyways. Gee thanks for proving it. This is why you are such a stupid fucking nigger. It is because you are also a junkie.
Why are you talking to me. You are dumber than that piece of shit I just flushed down the toilet.
My argument you just proved was on addiction. You said people want cannabis anyways. That is because of addiction. Where I said cannabis was addictive. I also provided further examples of further reasons causing its addiction. But you want to argue with suppliers? South Park. Or perhaps. Where the secret ingredient in coca-cola was cocaine prior to regulation. Why fucko. Because it was addictive. Now fuck off nigger.
This has happened before. There was old science on natural remedies, new science (paid by rockefeller) showed that it was all superstition. New science has started or killed several diet fads: tea and coffee bad, milk good, chocolate bad, cholestrol bad, chocolate good, tea good, milk bad, coffee good, etc.
Never forget that 19th and 20th century scientists were already fully valid scientists, most books were much more carefully peer-reviewed (and edited) that today's books and less carefully politicized.
Salt too
It’s what plants crave!
It has electrolytes.
Looks who's talking about science and research.
K. Now that I have identified who the person you are replying to is. You're point?
No I am not point.
Do you want to rephrase the question?
??
Oh, no... That answers everything. You are not point. I get it now. Waiter! Check please!
You asked me if I am "point".
My answer to that is that I am not.
Reading comprehension? English difficult?
Agh... I see it now. I used the wrong "You're".
Either you are being an English Nazi, or something was lost in translation.
Jesus Christ, what took you so long?
Pot is bad for big pharma bottom line. Pedocrats work for big pharma
From clinical experience (physician), I think this is correct. Almost NO ONE leaves MJ, once established... where most eventually leave opioids. The hook isn't severe, which seems to be why people think of it as non-addicting; but the momentum of an MJ-habit is second only to Tobacco IMO. It's maybe easier for a drunk to quit, than for a pothead. It's probably also easier To Lose Weight than To Quit Tokin'. SEX addicts are rare and treatable, but CANNIBIS addicts don't even want to quit; ever, in general.
Like Nicotine, it's a 3-fold addiction: physiologic/social/habit, but UNLIKE Nicotine, it accesses an upregulation pathway for disgust (like opioids do for pain); this means the physiologic dependency is long term AND specific; where Tobacco products are long term and general (and weaker). I think that is what makes MJ hard to jettison: people like mellow/hungry/accepting; disgust is unpleasant, as life-saving as it is...
Opioids are deadlier, though. By far.
5-10 miles a day, distance runner, put down over 70 marathons (got the telemetry to prove it), also now power lifting, all the time per rest and..... buddy, I do it all during before and after, smoking the ganj.
TL;DR
SPEZ: Starting a dialog with an internet stranger, with the lede "F U" is a sure winner move. u/MissGorilla is such a sure winner.
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Don't come to my office, edgelord...
I wouldn't consider it addicting all all, and more a problem with certainly personality or psychological types. There are many things in my life I don't particularly want to 'quit', but don't consider myself 'addicted'.
Even if I'm not smoking cannabis at the moment, I'm not swearing to never smoke again. Does that mean I'm addicted? Then there's food. Almost no one leaves food, unless they're a very dedicated Breatharian.
I mean, when 'the hook' is so mild that you can take it or leave it, can that really be considered an addiction? Do you really have to swear off something forever for it to not be an addiction?
Are cigarettes even bad for us at this point?
They can cause weight loss, but the stink, compulsive cravings, lung damage, and cancer they cause were something that big tobacco couldn't keep covered up forever.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/nicotine.htm - "potent neurotoxin"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10863546/ - "Neuroprotective"
Never were
Yeah. That fucking science is trying to convince you not to take the state's mind control drug with their stupid facts.
Last week MSM was trying to tell us that heroin was cool, go ahead try it, you'll like it.
Cannabis is very addictive. They sooner put shit in it. Sometimes causing addiction. Some even lace it with other drugs like coke to cause addiction. Others add chems to the crop to get much higher yields of php. The nicotine it is mixed with on smoking is more addictive than heroin. Many want the weak high to last, increasing its use until they pass out, making it a gateway drug. This is due to the way it is sourced. Also the shit they put in it. But you can become resistance to it.
The fact, it slows reactions massively can make it dangerous to use when operating machinery, similar to alcohol, many can white-out on cannabis use. Although lots of pharma medicines are worse in their affects. However there is increasing side affects of paranoia associated with its constant use, where dopamine can cause schizophrenia.
Of course this isn't always the case, not everybody takes huge amounts. Any effects vary.
But instead of a bunch of echoes proclaiming this article is wrong there should be both sides.
I don't think anything except poison should be illegal. Take what you want and live with it. But in today's bullshit society of rules, it is a no brainer that they will restrict the use of something you could easily grow yourself because they often want to sell you something even more costly.
you say Cannabis is very addictive. then talk about people adding stuff to it and contaminating it to make it addictive.
Pick one.
Either it is very addictive, or people put things in to make it addictive.
And higher yeilds of php in the cannabis? what the fuck are you talking about? WTF is php?
And I have seen people quit nicotine for life, but every herion addict i have seen has crawled back to it when life got hard again, so I need to see stats on how much more addictive nicotine in vs herion. Coz, that stat sounds like bullshit.
you sound like you read anti-drug pamphlets once in the 80s and believed every word.
You are retarded. Your tone is akin to a little bitch, whining at me.
People do add stuff to it all the time. As I said, lacing it with many other substances simply to cause increased sales. Simply adding small amounts of coke or crack to it causes increased addiction. Or by genetically modifing it altering at plant level producing higher growth chemically enhancing to cause greater potency and addiction. It has a weak high many become resistant towards and therefore increase their intake and use, causing addiction. It is a gateway drug leading to further experimentation and other drugs.
Pcp fucko. Who cares. Except a junkie.
Nicotine even on a simple GOOGLE is one of the most addictive drugs. Stated to be more addictive than heroin. Smoking is hell to kick and once kicked the smell of it causes craving or agitation, for the rest of a lifetime. It is added to cannabis on smoking, causing increasing addiction to cannabis. Smoking is a lifestyle it causes compulsion/addiction. Unless you fill that void with another compulsion many struggle to break free of its addiction.
I don't give one little shit about what you think you know. You sound like an idiot.
Which is it, cannabis is addictive, fucko, that is it. Process next time. Junkie. But junkies don't, because they are addicted.
... you think PCP is grown in cannabis?
congratulations. your opinion is less than worthless.
that being said...
Translated to English: *Simply adding small amounts of addictive substances causes addiction. *
My god you are a genius, please guide us oh mighty guru.
Edit: you forgot to mention the crystal meth that grows in the cannbis, or that dealers routinely cut in semen to activate the LSD and DMT.
if you want to have an opinion about cannabis, make it about cannabis, not additives some people in some areas add to it. and at least make sure you actually talk about shit that gets added to it, fucking coke? who the fuck would add that to cannabis?
Your opinion is a junkie's. No wonder you are on a cannabis support thread arguing it is not addictive. The epitome of a cliche. A mindless drug addled thoughtless frothing zombie. Typical of a pot head being beyond all rationality, arguing with no candor when an outsider doesn't partake of their poison.
Which part of processing all of the types of addiction cannabis offers, had you confused. Obviously a junkie confused all of it, stereotypically. Cannabis is addictive from all of its use. Not just the additives added. Where you've admitted for the rest of the class that you routinely ingest semen when you take it. Druggies do that, they sell their ass to pay for their habits, until they are getting snuffed.
PCP added sure, in various types of class A, skunk.
sarcasm is lost on you, isn't it.
Hoot more gorilla. There was nothing stupid about what I said.
You dumbly repeated it back. Maybe I should feel flattered you are repeating what I said. No it doesn't make it wrong. If it was wrong why are you repeating it. See what you did there. I guess it is because you're really dumb, you had no other argument except repeating me. Sure you tried to mock aimlessly, bringing up how you downvote everybody you repeat.
Do I honestly give one little shit what a gorilla thinks, a drug addled, stupid gorilla. Go and post it.
Read what you wrote, it proves how ignorant you are. You have just told this entire forum; you are a retard.
You are in a drugs topic being a junkie. Stereotypical, a cliche. You must have autism and schizophrenia if you think you are being rational. Read what you wrote, it is the epitome of retarded. There is no argument. Read what you wrote in your last reply too. Being a nigger is no excuse for it either. You need help, therapy, and an education. You are literally retarded. Read it for yourself. There is no intelligence in your reply, you have autistically assumed yourself to be superior, but you have said nothing, instead you try to mock. How can you mock, if you produce zero argument. It makes you illiterate. Druggies are like that. A likeminded club of the delusionally insane laughing to themselves in some kind of private joke. Joke is on you, you are ignorant, stupid, and irrational. You should be committed. Read the way you spoke. You are schizophrenic.
kys
You fucking dumbassretard. No one is putting an expoensive drug like coke in your fucking weed for free.
You are so fucking stupid it hurts.
Eat up more anti-weed propaganda you dumb cunt.
You are one dumb son of a bitch. Christmas special. South Park.
Aside many dealers do it all the time. It causes addiction. The effects of crack are what? Crackheads pick through feces looking for another hit. They smoke ash looking for another hit. Lace cannabis with an even more addictive substance using trace amounts of it. What happens, it makes more sales. The plants are also modified, lock stock and two smoking barrels, because these people cut in more chems into the plant producing way higher yields and varities. Until you get the synth shit now. Zombie weed. These people don't stop smoking it one after another after another catatonically doing nothing else.
But fuck you retard. Don't tell me shit. I used examples to make that point. I don't need to do anything else. You fucking spastic. Don't talk shit to me.
You're so fucking dumb. No dealer has to lace weed because people fucking want it anyways. Dumbass anti-weed propaganda.
What part of South Park Christmas Special are you arguing with? The part where because you are a complete retard you tell everybody globally something doesn't exist, despite it being shown in a cartoon that grows and deals cannabis.
You dumb stupid fucking retard. I don't give one little shit what you think you know. You know, nothing. Fuck off nigger.
People are addicted to it. Anyways. Gee thanks for proving it. This is why you are such a stupid fucking nigger. It is because you are also a junkie.
Why are you talking to me. You are dumber than that piece of shit I just flushed down the toilet.
My argument you just proved was on addiction. You said people want cannabis anyways. That is because of addiction. Where I said cannabis was addictive. I also provided further examples of further reasons causing its addiction. But you want to argue with suppliers? South Park. Or perhaps. Where the secret ingredient in coca-cola was cocaine prior to regulation. Why fucko. Because it was addictive. Now fuck off nigger.
Just because you can't stop using cannabis doesn't mean it's addictive.