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"We haven't been to space/space isn't real" vs "aliens/UFOs"
posted 4 years ago by Mad_King_Kalak 4 years ago by Mad_King_Kalak +7 / -5

So which is it, conspiracies.win?

Is space not real and we have never been to space or the earth is flat, etc. etc. (the arguments vary) or have UFOs and aliens been visiting the earth?

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– cultureofcritique 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I've seen enough evidence to know that "space is fake", at least in the sense that everything NASA or other space agencies shows us is fake. That doesn't necessarily mean we're not on a spinning ball orbiting the sun, but it does mean we either don't have the technology to get past our atmosphere or it isn't possible for some other reason they don't want to tell us.

I'm personally torn about the idea of UFOs and aliens-- there's definitely some good evidence out there of craft that don't behave like normal airplanes or drones. But a lot of the aliens conspiracies feel like psy-ops to me-- they're too popular and too allowed on mainstream media to be true. Real consipiracies like the fake moon landing get you banned, de-platformed, etc., but aliens aren't taboo to discuss... really makes you think.

Perhaps, as some have theorized, the craft are highly advanced human technology that the elites don't want to share with us. Perhaps they're from a branch of humanity that left to go live underground or in Antartica or something. But the idea of "little grey men" etc. seems like a psy-op designed to unite humanity into one big global community in order to install the New World Order.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you for a thoughtful answer.

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– graucho 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Planet hopping isn't feasible in our dimension. Not for meat-bags like us, anyway. Inter-dimensional travel, however, - at least theoretically - possible. Aliens, then, could be visitors from other dimensions.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

There you go, a rational way to avoid a contradiction.

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– Barkz 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I cant figure out my own struggles with space.

I feel like space HAS to be real, but not everything or anything really that they tell me is.

I dont know how to feel about space.

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– Clobro 1 point 4 years ago +3 / -2

The earth is a triangle....prove me wrong!

Edit: spelling error (prove)

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– Graphenium 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

You’ve been priced for $0.02, and purchased by someone named “Wexner”, enjoy your new home

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– Clobro 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

lmao!

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– RichieAppel 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Actually it’s a trapezoid.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1
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– cultureofcritique 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

How do you know that humans have been into space just because satellites exist? First, satellites could be brought or held up by balloons rather than rockets. However, even if they do get up there and orbit in the way we're told, that doesn't mean that humans can do the same. Robots/computers can survive many conditions that humans can't, including radiation, lack of atmosphere, etc.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I saw those starlink satellites one night, just outside with the kids at a small campfire. Thought it was a shooting star when I was pointing out the few constellations that I know. Then another, and another and another. Clearly not aircraft, and clearly not meteorites. Freaked me out a bit. Went inside, and after some searching learned about them.

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– FlatSmurf 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

The earth is level and motionless and the world has been deceived otherwise in order to stop any new exploration outward and conditioned to only look upward for new exploration.

Space isn't fake AF but it is in the manner that the deceivers try to sell you it as.

There is so much conditioning since birth that when telling someone that they aren't moving at thousands of miles per hour they feel you should be in a loony bin, even though their very own senses tell them they are stationary.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

versus

That's called reasoning aka the conflict between truth versus false, based on consent to believing versus not believing the offer of another. Reasoning causes the conflict (versus); not reality.

Reason represents fiction; motion represents reality. It's not truth vs false; it's if/then aka implication aka consequence of action set into motion.

If contradiction (taught by talmudic reasoning) then indefinite reasoning.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That is the writing on the back of a cereal box.

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– free-will-of-choice 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

the writing on the back of a cereal box

That represents a suggestion (an offer) towards ones free will of choice...either to adhere to self sustenance within motion by adapting to if/then; or ignore self sustenance within motion by consenting to truth versus false.

The difference is that truth vs false represents ones selfish claim over information, while if/then represents ones adaptation to inspiration.

Who is it that offers you both aliens/UFO's/space as well as no aliens/no UFO's/no space? Is it the few who want to control the many, or does it come from the many? Why do you think the idol called Arthur C. Clarke was knighted by the Crown Corporation (run by the usury cartel)?

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– Graphenium 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Childhood’s End and The Second Foundation

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– Graphenium 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

No it’s actually quite a profound dissection of the “problem” you made this thread about. It may take a couple readings to begin to grok, but I recommend not dismissing this guys comments out of hand as many idiots around here tend to lol. He’s formulated a logically consistent theory of our existence, more so than I can say for anyone else here.

This forum is astoundingly closed-minded for a group of “free-thinkers pushed together from all other corners of the internet” when what’s being said isn’t immediately and obviously in agreement with preconceived notions.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not a positivist, but that's blather masquerading as profundity.

As for this forum, I enjoy it immensely, but this thread was a "I can't sleep" thought last night.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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