Hey,
I sometimes like to make this post on con boards.
What are your favorite occult truths that you believe knowing may change the overall perspective of a person? Include some examples if you can.
As to start an input process i'll leave one of mine.
Levels of interpretation.
It's fully possible to nest many messages into a single one, meaning that depending how one reads it it will mean different things, and they all may be intended.
The divine comedy of Dante for example. It has an exoterical hero's journey from hell to paradise guided by a woman, which appeal to housewives and make sure it will be kept in many households.
It has many deeper meanings of liberation from the flesh and seeing through the social matrix, trying to free the spirit from the casualties of gender and social spacetime.
But you can still read it and see only a guy lost in life trying to get laid.
Hmm great post... I guess some comparable occult truths could be those found in the Kybalion:
The Principle of Mentalism “The all is mind; the universe is mental.”
The Principle of Correspondence “As above, so below, as below, so above. As within, so without, as without, so within.”
The Principle of Vibration “Nothing rests; Everything moves; Everything vibrates.”
The Principle of Polarity “Everything is dual, everything has poles and everything has its pair of opposites; Like and unlike are the same; Opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; Extremes meet; All truths, are but half-truths; All paradoxes may be reconciled.”
The Principle of Rhythm “Everything flows, out and in; Everything has its tides; All things rise and fall.”
The Principle of Cause and Effect “Every cause has its effect; Every effect has its cause.”
The Principle of Gender “Gender is in everything; Everything has its masculine and feminine principles.”
I have read that book a lot of time ago, and was sure it would pop up in such a post if anything did.
kybalion pdf version
Great read!
Hear hear! I got the physical book one Christmas and flip through it almost annually to refresh myself.
Really great book. Left me hungry for more, but finding mystic texts that are as well-written is not easy.
The Principle of Mentalism “The all is mind; the universe is mental.”
ALL is information; ALL is energy. The mind is only needed to perceive that information, AFTER energy creates motion and therewith the loss of potentiality, which then creates momentum (balance within motion) within which ALL segregated itself into individual ONEs (potential), and for the communication between them the need for a mind comes into existence.
In short: Information comes before perception. The mind cannot create information; it transmutes out of information. Also "mental-ISM" is an idol; a belief system offered to one by another one, and thereby against the laws of nature (the rules that define how motion operates).
As above, so below, as below, so above
1st natural law: "opposites must coexist, because they're defined by each others coexistence within motion", because motion is defined as the movement from a beginning towards an end, thereby creating fundamental barriers for all existence within motion.
As within, so without, as without, so within.
Incorrect. ALL is ONE within energy. There is no without within the motion of energy. The segregation of differences is based on the need for inspiration towards self sustenance, because energy creates motion; and motion creates energy, which means energy is not just the source of all information, but it represents self sustenance (the intent for all existence).
“Nothing rests; Everything moves; Everything vibrates.”
Correct, but the vibration represents the communication (resonance) between forward motion and the resistance to that motion (the balance within motion aka momentum). The motion represents the natural order; while all existence within the temporary momentum represent chaos mimicking (through resonance) the information the natural order offers through motion as inspiration for adherence to self sustenance.
Everything is dual
Incorrect. Duality is the deception. Natural opposites are defined by each others coexistence within motion, while duality allows the parring of belief based assumptions (aka affixed fiction that ignores the reality of motion). This is what creates all the conflicts, since coexistence within energy has no conflicts. We act upon our beliefs (fiction) while ignoring motion (reality). All conflicts are based on believer vs non-believer.
If one proclaims a "truth" into motion, one a) ignores that motion disproves all proclaimed "truths" as "lies" and b) one creates a substitute offer of information to all other ones, which creates a contradiction and thereby the conflict between those who believe the fiction, and those who oppose it by not believing it. It's entirely irrelevant what they believe; only that they believe, because the conflict puts both sides into the ignorance of reality. This is how they control both sides of every conflict.
“Everything flows, out and in; Everything has its tides; All things rise and fall.”
That represents the cycles (spirals!?) of loss and recharge of potentiality through motion. Forward motion represents loss of potentiality (ones wants aka temptations pulling us towards an end; death), and the resistance towards the forward motion within temporary momentum represents the strive of potential towards unification aka the recharge of potentiality (ones needs; the adherence to self sustenance; the instinctive struggle to uphold life over death.)
“Every cause has its effect; Every effect has its cause.”
2nd natural law; "all actions have consequences within motion". They leave out motion to allow themselves to be the ones making the judgments for all other ones. the consequences of each action is defined by ones free will of choice to either adhere to self sustenance (recharge) or ignore it (loss), which puts the sole authority over self one ONEs free will of choice, which is why the other (((ones))) deceive us to ignore self by offering a false (unquestionable) authority, whcih demands our consent...our belief; our faith, whcih then allows the others ones to act "in the name of" that false idol of authority that represents our ignorance of self.
(((they))) act "In Nomine" Patris (the ALL), et Filii (the ONE), et Spiritus Sancti (the spirit (to breath) bond from ONE to ALL).
Everything has its masculine and feminine principles
Yes, that's once again the coexistence of natural opposites within motion, and the balance between those two represents self sustenance; in this case; procreation. So individual adherence to self sustenance leads to unity; leads to shared responsibilities of sustaining creation set into motion, because motion corrupts creation when not sustained.
This also means that the only "self" we can sustain is within our blood; the shared identity of our bloodlines, which represent residue within loss/recharge cycles (spirals).
You add some excellent points. These renditions of the hermetic principles were just the first ones I found online, but they don’t convey the more nuanced information present in the whole book. Where you take issue with the phrase “everything is dual” that chapter drives home the point that “all paradoxes can be reconciled” because at the root, the duality is an epi-phenomenon of the true phenomenon, oneness, or THE ALL.
If ONE has self discernment within ALL, then "paradoxes" aka opinions; assumptions, proCLAIMED as truth or false, represent a contradiction to reality. Why? Because ALL (energy in motion) represents the source of all information for each ONE within, so ONE cannot act as a substitute source for other ONEs without ignoring adherence to ALL. That's selfish.
The origin of selfishness is ONE claiming ownership over that which ALL offers each one. It's ONEs selfish ignorance of coexistence within ALL. Nature doesn't name anything; it doesn't brand information, because motion would disprove any claim. Instead nature offer information as inspiration to our senses through the consequences of actions set into motion, which is why real communications requires all our senses to resonate with all around us.
Language is a corruption of communication and it causes the "ego", and the inner monologue, which represents a constant temptation to selfishly proCLAIM our self imposed beliefs (assumptions). They put a SPELL on us with language (in the beginning was the word...).
Everything we proclaim with language, we uphold as fictitious beliefs, to which we then adhere, while ignoring adherence to reality. And this is also what created the weakness that attracted parasites to exploit it ruthlessly. Their entire spiel is about keeping us ignorant of reality by offering us fiction endlessly.
I love this line of thought...
We spell a sentence for someone using the laws of grimoire. I eagerly await the day when our latent telepathic ability returns.
I eagerly await the day when our latent telepathic ability returns.
That is the problem; you "want" to gain the benefits all offers you, while ignoring your needs, which would give you the benefits, because adherence to self sustenance leads towards unity with others, because the fruits of your labor create responsibility towards collective maintenance of the created; otherwise motion will corrupt creation.
Telepathy or the access to collective consciousness for communication would require that unity among the majority we don't have, because we adhere to our selfish wants over our instinctive needs. Plus the parasites feeding upon our selfishness of course...as if selfishness alone isn't a pain in the ass, but alas; life demands struggle and so here we are.
Hmm...
In practical terms, what are some actions you think I’m doing that are corrupting or going against my self sustenance?
what are some actions you think I’m doing that are corrupting or going against my self sustenance?
All your actions adhering to your own selfish intent of wanting to "eagerly await the day when...", for which you chose to ignore the only intent of all existence (self sustenance), which demands your adherence to it, and which defines your needs.
The consequences of your actions are defined by the intent you adhere to BEFORE setting them into motion, and all self imposed intent represents the choice of free will to ignore adherence to self sustenance (needs) in favor of selfishness (wants).
the day when...
This is another spell. You ignore to maintain that which is (in motion) for that which could be. You don't comprehend that what you set into motion right now will become that which happens afterwards (the consequences of your actions).
They corrupted us to think this selfish way by offering us "time", which creates three substitute states deceiving us to ignore the ever changing moment within motion, and the importance of our free will of choice in terms of the actions we set into it.
The so called "past" represents our self imposed perception of loss by holding onto that which was as memories. The so called "future" represents our self imposed perception of hope and fear towards that which might be. And both together create the so called "present" based on the self imposed stress from holding onto that which was, and hoping for/fear of that which might be.
Instead of adapting to the ever changing circumstances within motion; our selfish belief in "time" creates the self imposed mental traumas of loss, hope, fear and stress, which all create negative consequences for both our mental and physical state, which in return creates even more negative consequences for all around us.
Now look up who mass manufactured clocks, who pushed timetables, who controls calendars, who endlessly promotes loss (nostalgia), hope (religion), fear (mainstream media), and stress (timetables filled with never ending events). You will run into the same group of parasites as usual. Meanwhile all other lifeforms instinctively adhere to natural cycles (spirals!?).
Could you make some example of this provenience?
Kinda tough to try to explain, but as I understand it: some of the most ancient knowledge that was shared among humans was from a mythos developed over the ages by people observing, naming, and fictionalising astrological realities and events. The cosmos was a map, and to understand and share knowledge of the map: allegories/metaphors/symbols were made that were representative of, and analogous to, that which was happening in the heavens. As time cycled the map was built and the mythos forged, all while being added to as time rolled on.
This knowledge seems to be the basis for mystical understanding of self and world outside of self that eventually became the symbolic system of the tarot (about which Mark Passio goes into great detail), and the means of describing or predicting world events from observing the deities in the heavens, although the uninitiated 'understanding' of this over time became 'Gods in the sky say X, so this means they are displeased with you' (likely due to a manipulative and corrupt priest-class monopolising the sacred knowledge), rather than the initiate looking to the already categorised celestial bodies as map that one can interpret to gain knowledge of the present future and understanding the ancient stories as allegory, not literally.
Jordan waxwell puts it out there pretty good too
I want to add another.
Sabbateanism, while not through this name, is extremely popular and the main weapon of subversion.
Most people who talk about their love of light usually employ double speak to hide the fact they work for darkness.
Most people who really work for the light are silent about the matter (not all, but most).
Ahah! That's a phrase i often think about. Right makes might.
I don't even have a theist belief, but morally speaking the smell is incredible.
That's kind of like a misuse, or a lack of recognition of, the Hermetic Principal of Polarity; or a corruption of the alchemical notion of the coincidentia oppositorum.
Atheists say God doesn't exist, but none of them can ever define the word God. Then when you get into pantheism/panpsychism with them they turn agnostic all of a sudden or just go quiet. lol
Remote viewing is real, all humans are psychic.
Agree.
Sadly it seems our social programming gets in the way.
Also i'm pretty sure that there are ways to endanger someone trying that.
It’s not too hard, I’ve been RVing daily for over a decade. There are plenty of declassified docs and info to learn nowadays.
How do you do it? What is it like? Is it literally like you can observe things as if you were flying outside of your body?
The best comparison I can give is that it is like being in a 3-d video game, and over time, as you gather data, the “level” you’re in renders in greater and greater detail. Eventually you can move around a bit. Check out the remote viewing Reddit sub for more info.
Seeing as you were talking about the Kybalion in this thread, have you ever heard of Franz Bardon's books on hermeticism?
I know the guy work but didn't read yet.
I have heard great things about it, though.
If you feel like, share an insight from his work!
I recently got Initiation Into Hermetics, but I must admit that it has been kind of difficult to make my way through. There is a crazy amount of detail for something so... abstract.
It can be tough at times. I've been slowly making way through it for some time but it definitely has not been easy. However, even at this limited stage I'm in, I can feel myself reaping some small rewards. I can only imagine how transformative it is when you really complete the whole thing.
Keep at it! Learning how to master your mind was never going to be easy
I intend to, I just put it down to reread some Plato, and didn't pick it back up yet. I will tell you one thing: the explanation of the understanding of the four primary elements blew my mind with how well it validated the thought process I (as someone who has studied philosophy, and never quite 'got' the preSocratics) until then COULD NOT FUCKING COMPREHEND. Now it lines up pretty well with the modern scientific explanation of the Big Bang, and how reality, cooled, moistened, and refined itself into coherence. Trippy shit, man...
That sometimes, Hollywood puts real demon imagery on their movies. Two movies I know for sure are the first Silent Hill and 2019 Hellboy
Mmh.
Mind to elaborate? What you mean with "real demon imagery"? How does that differ from "fake demon imagery".
Like the typical “skull face” with long arms is fake. But there’s some movies that depict scenes I’ve read of what hell looks like. Silent Hill had scenes where the walls turned to mutilated flesh. That is how a “prison in hell” looks like and is documented on a book by Ana Mendez (she’s a prophet). Another one was the ending scenes of 2019 Hell Boy. When the demons started coming out of the ground and water. The one that came from the water had brain neuron-line type head, I think is a leviathan. I’ve read that they affect your head when they haunt humans. Also that they live (or reside) in the water. That scene (which was only a glimpse) creeped me out enough to look into the people who came up with them and of course they looked like they belonged in a coven.
The best way I could describe it is the scary costumes that leave a more than a chilling feeling. Just looking at it gives a feeling of more than just a cheap thrill.
Illusions by Richard Bach.
There’s so much info layered into this “fictional” tale, I don’t know how anyone who’s still asleep could finish it thinking it’s just about a traveler & his imaginary friend.
And then there’s ET 101; only the most cynical of all the cynics would takeaway that it’s just a humorous book.
ET 101 pdf
Hey, thanks for the great input.
I'm reading that pdf, i think i met it before but didnt pay much attention. Interesting. Will also write down that Bach thing for future reference.
Can you give a little synopsis of your take on Illusions? I might want to read it and am curious.
Dude’s a solo traveler who meets someone very unlike anyone else he’s encountered & discovers it’s the teacher he didn’t know he’d been seeking; from there, it goes into their encounters, what he learns about himself, and how his mind/beliefs effect his experience of “reality.”
It’s a great read.
That sounds great. I need some new fiction too. Cheers bud. :)
My occult truth? Only oblivion awaits us all in the end and some people find that terrifying beyond anything else. It's a hard concept to take.
That is a belief.
That poster is a troll. Pay no mind.
Considering the amount of effort he does, i prepend on edgy kid syndrome teenager.
I forgive the case because i wasn't too different.
When it comes down to it everything is a belief if you move the goal post far enough.
Knowing that no reward or punishment is coming can fundamentally change a person, for better or for worse depending on the person.
I think that fits your definition above.
I'd bet most people here come from that point of view and left it behind. I know i did.
Nietzsche had warned the world that after the death of god nihilism would be on the rise. He also looked for a solution. Because he knew it would have been a problem.
It doesn't have to be a bad thing to think there's nothing after. It's on each of us to do what we think is best worth the knowledge.
You realize occult means “hidden or obscured” right? Not “blasted into the skull of every human from every mainstream source of information on earth”
Oh please, I rarely ever see anyone talk about oblivion as an option. Nearly every movie ever talks about heaven and hell, including the 5 billion plus religious people.
Now movies are the definition of “mainstream sources of information”? Lmfao wot?
Find me one single neil degrasse or bill bye type preaching anything beyond nihilistic materialism and I’ll show you a “once respected scientist, who in his doting old age has embraced pseudo-scientific beliefs”
So now movies aren't mainstream only NDT and Bill Nye?
Come on, nearly every single mainstream source over the past 2000 years has preached heaven and hell.
Youu live in a godless, materialist world and if you doubt that you’re just buyin the shit those retards like Tyson are selling
I'm not materialistic at all, that's your interpretation. What if I realise that there's nothing after and I decide to pledge my life helping people now because they are struggling?
Also, calling Tyson a retard is just stupidity and sounds like blind partisan hate. Be better.
Are you a child? Google the definition of materialism (the philosophy)