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"Exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person, who was demoralized, is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures." -- Yuri Bezmenov (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 4 years ago by Stoic2314 4 years ago by Stoic2314 +82 / -4
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– tmuktkpuqzyc 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

This source is wrong. I ran the CDC numbers myself (if you don't believe me, you can too!): https://conspiracies.win/p/11R4ufrAqE/x/c/4Drud8p9ej2?d=50

Further discussion here: https://conspiracies.win/p/11R4zMXmse/total-usa-deaths-are-up-by-over-/

I'll get downvoted for sharing this, but these are just facts and basic math. If you don't believe me, please run the numbers yourself and share your results.

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– BouyantBeef 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Just to give the numbers:

2,855,000 Deaths 2019 CDC https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm

2,835,533 Deaths as of 12/22/20 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm (Link from OP)

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– tmuktkpuqzyc 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

The data at your second link (from OP) does not include most of January

Week ending 2/1/2020 to 12/19/2020.*

If you read the threads I linked to you will see this explained.

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– BouyantBeef 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

481 covid deaths in January, you can see the explanation on column 7 "All deaths involving influenza with or without Covid-19 or Pneumonia (J09-J11) includes Covid-19 or Pneumonia" Which doesn't explain why there is not data since they took data knowing patients had covid but didn't use the covid as COD because it wasn't the main cause of death but the fact remains that they tested for covid-19 during that time. What is your thought on why the CDC didn't collect data on January, you think it had to do with funding?

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– Scroon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Not OP, but the answer to your question is that the CDC is intentionally skewing their analysis. January in all non-2020 years has a much higher weekly death count due to flu season. And 2020 is a strange year because we didn't hit a huge flu death peak in January.

By leaving January out, they can make the death counts for other years look lower while focusing on the worst part of 2020 which peaks in April.

I've spent enough time looking at infuriatingly obtuse CDC data presentations to know that they're making things hard to understand on purpose.

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– Scroon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm going to fight you on this whenever you bring it up. Your analysis is wrong because you're only tallying the first 47 weeks of each year.

Graphs of weekly death counts for each year -- except for 2020 -- are "U" shaped, meaning that most deaths occur in the first and last weeks of the year. By looking at up to week 47 only, you're leaving out a sizeable portion of deaths which makes 2020 seem much worse than it is.

2020 does not have the weekly death distribution as other years, and this is becoming more obvious as the year is wrapping up.

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– tmuktkpuqzyc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Can we at least agree that OP's post is wrong and based on flawed analysis of the data?

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– Scroon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah definitely agree. That's the error where they're omitting January 2020, right?

Btw, totally respect your perspective and efforts on this. Just disagreeing intellectually. We're on the same side though. :)

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– tmuktkpuqzyc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah exactly, missing most of January. I appreciate your input too, these are the sort of challenges we should be raising. It's made me all the more interested to revisit this data after the new year.

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– Heather_NotLocklear 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

You would think if they could eradicate Covid 19, they think they will eradicate death. People act like death is some profound and "novel" thing brought on by this killer cold. They have lost their minds along with their ability to think critically.

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– StaffRex 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Of course- Death tolls deflated YoY because COVID stay at home orders and personal liberty restrictions are keeping people "safer" at home and outside.

The sheeple will believe what they are told.

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– Mrexreturns 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

You forgot the Covid itself won't be causing the deaths, despair and insanity does.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Not disagreeing, but you just posted a link to some datasets that nobody is really going to take the time to put into Excel. If you were going to get more traction, why don't you just do your own apples to apples comparison of total deaths Jan through Nov of 2018, 2019, and 2020?

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– Scroon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nobody you say?

https://conspiracies.win/p/11R4ufq4FG/no-bullshit-analysis-of-covid-de/

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ah ha! Thanks.

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