SCOTUS is ghosting THE KRAKEN
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I really don't think people realize the gravity of what this means if the case is proven to be true (and I think it is true, beyond a reasonable doubt). Quite literally, it would lead to a Constitutional Crisis, being that this election and probably every previous one within the last few decades have been rigged to give the illusion of choice and the two party back and forth circus. This is why damn near everyone in the establishment is fighting against this and/or throwing it out. TPTB will do everything in their power to prevent this can of worms from opening up.
Lead to? I think we are in the middle of it brother.
We are merely feeling the wind picking up of the hurricane coming to shore. The Cosmic storm hasn't actually hit lan. When it does, best buckle up buck-a-roos.
the great conjunction in this area of space marks the entrance to a very interesting cosmic area by our system and earth supposedly. Suspicious Observers on youtube has some good stuff on it.
Lol. No, this isn't a constitutional crisis.
Miranda v. Arizona was a constitutional crisis with regard to the Fifth Amendment. Griswold v. Connecticut and its progeny (e.g., Roe v. Wade, Obergefell v. Hodges) were constitutional crises with regard to substantive due process. Bush v. Gore would have been a constitutional crisis if the Court sided with Gore, as they would have literally changed the outcome of an election.
This is just a bunch of angry losers filing barely comprehensible lawsuits in the hope of stirring up political capital sufficient to cause civil unrest. We'll see a few weeks of protest lasting until Biden takes office, then — like always — the masses will go back to their 9-5 jobs and be placated by angry figureheads on television until the next election cycle. C'est la vie.
Go back to reddit.
Go back to TD.W.
You're such a faggot on every thread I find you in
Glad I could make you feel at home <3
you sound nervous.
Not really, just bored of hearing the same old "wait for the uprising" argument from keyboard warriors.
You could just say you aren’t good at math or statistics instead of calling stuff you don’t understand barely comprehensible. Probably a communications degree huh. Lol.
Law degree <3. Feel free to revisit this after January 20th, when Biden takes office and the country (shockingly) does not fall into chaos.
like we havn't seen someone with a law degree be retarded. Congrats for regurgitating information long enough to earn that.
I know, Sidney and Lin are absolute morons.
Not a constitutional crisis, just a crisis about the constitution being subverted blatantly in favor of keeping the left/right machine running
MUCH different GOOD take
Your welcome to point out what provision of the Constitution is being violated by any of this. I'll try to respond as best as I can.
I mean. The left-wing patriot would see it as such by accusing the right of attempting to subvert people's constitutional right and privilege to vote, whereas the right-wing patriot would argue that their constitutional right and privilege to vote is being devalued by being made equal to harvested/dead/underage/felonious/illegal votes.
Sorry for the snark if you're actually willing to have an honest conversation about this. Voting rights are absolutely a constitutional crisis from either side, as I see it.
Sorry, this is kind of long, but it's got a lot of good substance that I hope helps flesh out the inherent flaw in the Trump team's litigation.
I totally agree about voting rights, however their construction under the Constitution is very state-centered. We try to shy away from federal intervention as much as we can. For instance, in Shelby County v. Holder the Court explicitly struck down the Voting Rights Act's Sec. 4(b) formula for federal preclearance on concerns over federalism. However, Shelby isn't directly responsive to this, I'm just citing it to show that the federal government likes to stay out of state voting as much as possible.
There's a marked difference between the "left-wing" and "right-wing" patriots' positions. Bear in mind that, prior to the Reconstruction Era, there was no inalienable right to vote. Until that time, states were free to determine voting standards, largely, as they wished. The only instruction came from Article II, Sec. 1:
This changed with the addition of the 15th Amendment. However, it is important to note that this Amendment only guaranteed that the right "to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United states or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." This was extended to sex via the 19th Amendment, poll taxes via the 24th Amendment, and above-18 age via the 26th Amendment.
Outside of these proscriptions, however, there is not much else in the Constitution about voting. Thus, while you have an undeniable right to vote in these protected classes (the left-wing patriot's position) it does not necessarily follow that you have a right to a certain value in your vote (the right-wing patriot's position).
Of course, the response to this is the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause, which guarantees that no state shall "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." This is why in Bush v. Gore the Court struck down the recount on equal protection grounds, as some Florida counties were excluding and correcting votes on different grounds than other Florida counties; the votes in Florida were definitionally being subjected to unequal protection within the state. Of foremost note, a citizen of State A is not protected via State B's laws (assuming the citizen is operating entirely in State A), this is why the Texas lawsuit failed for lack of standing. Now, when a citizen of State A wants to challenge State A's election law, it gets a little more complicated...
Prior to 2008, the Court applied strict scrutiny to state-internal election law challenges. This means that, for any law restricting the right to vote, the state had to present a compelling interest that justified its use. However, the Court decided (in Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd. (2008)) that equal protection analysis of voting laws requires only a balancing of the interests of voters against the interests of the state, which is more akin to something we call rational basis review. The upshot of this decision has been more state laws requiring voter ID, as well as less judicial decisions overturning state election law. The right-wing patriot's constitutional argument is even weaker here, as the underlying logic requires the inference that a law (e.g., mail-in voting) that they are not restricted by has indirectly subjected them to unequal protection under the law. This is what's called a "disparate impact" argument and we've rejected its application to facially neutral laws (see Washington v. Davis (1976)), which is what a law simply permitting mail-in voting writ-large would be.
Thus, what the right-wing patriot is left with is essentially rational basis review. I can cite a whole trove of cases for this, but the short of it is that the state always prevails in rational basis review as long as it can offer some non-prohibited reason for its law (see generally, Railway Express v. New York (1949)). Promoting voter participation is one of those permissible reasons. This is all, of course, guided by the remaining Article II, Sec. 1 deference to states to make their own voting law, as well as the post-Shelby policy for such. In short, the right-wing patriot has no constitutional argument regarding the dilution of his or her vote via their state permitting mail-in voting.
Nearly everything you said was entirely correct, but I would take exception to some small part. The United States Constitution (USC) only applies to current American citizens; the right-wing patriot would be justifiably upset at their USC provided vote being devalued by equating its worth to illegal votes cast by prohibited entities (non-citizens, mishandled ballots, multiple ballots, dead voters, batched ballots.) The USC part of the right-wing patriot's argument lay with USC's rights being applied to non-citizen or illegal entities. Otherwise, it's an issue of fraud and not the USC as you have correctly pointed out.
I honestly feel this whole crisis is manufactured by certain players on both sides. It could be averted by adjudication and transparency at all levels of the voting process, but bitter hatred seems to be clouding the judgment of many of the US elected officials and US citizenry. The guilty would be prosecuted and truth would oust the liars.
You hit the nail on the head. I remember that blond legislator in Georgia posing an actual legitimate thought in the midst of her freaking out. It was something along the lines of: "If any of this is true, then are we saying we weren't elected legitimately too!?".
This is a massive can of worms, which is why almost nobody in power wants it opened. They themselves know many if not most of them are illegitimate. This applies to Republicans and Democrats alike, as well as the judges installed by these illegitimate "elected" officials.
Precisely!
It means war
America has not had an honest election since Woodrow Wilson. Federal Reserve Act December 1913.
All this is doing is illustrating how corrupt and set up the system is. And judging by Powell, Flynn, and Wood's behavior, they are not stopping for anything. Let's not forget the 75 million people who are fucking pissed and very aware that this election was stolen. Something is going to give here, and I think this is a moment where we will see the true power of the people. Even if the left is deluded and trusting of one of the most corrupt politicians in history, their ideology of orange man bad, get him out at any cost is... as unAmerican as you could possibly get.
Orange man won. In a landslide. He should be President. But here's something I could never imagine myself saying. Trump has an opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents ever, if not the greatest, if he really exposes the deep state and mass arrests for treason. Guts the MSM and big tech, and send these rightful traitors to jail. I don't know if he will go that far, but I don't think he has a choice anymore. The people are demanding it. I can only hope and pray. This is the moment.
The swamp is deeper than even a lot of us imagined. Third world level antics...
The swamp is so deep that they somehow lost in 2016.
It's pretty obvious what happened. They thought they could cruise to victory on the First Woman card and they hadn't implemented what as Joe Biden called it, is the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics".
Actually what happened is Russia hacked the hack and froze the cheating algorithm. Putin had enough of Obama’s bullshit. He fucked around and found out.
It's absolutely amazing how no one wants to do an audit. Everyone from the top to the local officials... All for monopoly money.
read my mind bruh. if you legitimately won, and truly believe that, how would an open, transparent audit of the votes affect you? negatively? well maybe.... IF YOU FUCKING CHEATED lol.
I just think it's weird that no one is willing to audit. Shouldn't an audit be done every year just to verify everything is working?
SILENCE SLAVE!!! WE WILL NOT TOLERATE LOGIC!!!
Robert’s is compromised by Epstein’s island. He’s scared shitless that his secret is going to come out. (It is)
The story may not be true, but Roberts compromise is real. He seems to hate Trump like Cindy McCain, Chelsea Clinton, and others who have had family members executed by Trump. Something big behind Robert’s curtain.
This is where should listen and stop being a retard
Given how badly Powell's actions have been drafted in the past, I wouldn't put it past her to have monumentally fucked up the filings for the Arizona and Wisconsin petitions.
Also, it's kind of an unspoken rule in the legal field that you never blame the clerks, especially not in a formal legal filing (as she did in her motion). Law is a field with strict filing guidelines and rules that, usually, clerks are a lenient with enforcing. If you piss a clerk off, then expect to see your future filings rejected for being a centimeter out of required metric.