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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey!! I just finished creating a post here and saw your reply. But sadly I gotta go to attend duty calls from my better half. :D I'll come back tomorrow for your comment! ttys!

P.S.

So, how were the J-10 and J-20 developed, and what does that imply?

Think the Bush clan and the Clintons. I'll be back for a more detailed response. :D :D

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

...and in all of those decades I didn't hear of any moves to protect America's national security by making legislation to retain that manufacturing.

That's the thing about news consumption through internet:

Before 2008-ish, many of us were still relying on legacy media for news. You didn't hear about any "movements" in the US against offshoring, more precisely, many of us didn't hear about any discussions against negative aspects of moving manufacturing factories to China; because those legacy media didn't yap about it and decided to largely ignore the subject. All the while the US academic spheres (ah, innocent days those were) + middle classes protested at length against NAFTA and/or offshoring.

Here, we would need to ask the foremost crucial question: Why did the US ruling classes allow NAFTA and/or offshoring to happen?

Why didn't they try to set up some kind of legislations in order to retain the US manufacturing forces within, to regulate outsourcing jobs overseas, or even to "protect America's national security"? Why some US politicians didn't perform some theatrics in the media in order to form public opinion against offshoring? Was it simply because of money? The answer lies in how PLA air force developed Chengdu J-10 and Chinese J-20.

Furthermore, it's hilarious that America funded a project in the Wuhan lab that some blame for releasing the virus. Even if it is possible to put the blame on China for the release of the virus, it seems America holds some blame for supporting the institution.

Here, you're still looking at things from/with a perspective of nation-state. It's equally hilarious that many still believe that the concept of the 21st century nationalism is about protecting their own nation against other nations. It isn't. And as you are probably well aware, to those ruling classes; the nation, the country, or even the race do not matter.

Let me ask you a question:

How did you know "America funded a project in the Wuhan lab"? That's right. You read or heard about it from the media. For some reason, they placed the information, or the headline if you will, in front of you.

I am not saying the relevant US bureaucrats didn't fund the research. And probably you won't deny that Hubei politburo went the extra mile not to contain the situations. But those aren't the point: We would need to try to understand why they are doing this. Otherwise we are going to just keep following the breadcrumbs they laid down and only to end up going extinct.

I've come to believe that America purposely helped and is helping China.

Yes. But replace the America and China with something else: There are (almost all of) factions within the US ruling classes AND the Chinese counterparts that are making movements + carrying out operations for one objective. To yield their own version of feudalism all over the world.

The 21st century nationalism isn't about being against the already outdated imperialism or against other nations' forces. It is about being against the so called globalism.


I must say:

However I came out on my comments above, I genuinely appreciate your comments and thank you for replying to mine.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks!

Last year, I had a good deal of conversation with some acquaintance on the letter, since said letter became known to the public within less than a month after Xi Jinping's disappearance for a week.

Because everything reported on the state controlled media had a purpose or two, we soon started to speculate about what's up with the media release regarding the letter.

Hypothesis #1:

Seeing they published "A Battle Against Epidemic: China Combating COVID-19 in 2020" a week after the news about the letter,

the news itself was merely a part of propaganda to manage public sentiments during the pandemic.

Bill Gates' letter to Xi had no real value or meaning either: Seeing Shanghai clique's teeth were crumbling one by one, Bill Gates just wanted to get on Xi's good side. That's all.

Hypothesis #2:

Bill Gates has been a close ally of Shanghai clique and the enterprises under their control. And Bill gates' letter to Xi contained a couple of proposals & thinly veiled threats from Shanghai clique, which were protesting against Xi's acceptance of the phase one trade deal and putting heavy pressure on Xi to be out. Money comes before ideology.

So, the backdoor deals got made between Xi's princelings and Shanghai clique. And Xi's responding letter was just a formality, which also served as a propaganda Hypothesis #1 referred to.

Which one do you think is closer to truth?

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know it's not my business, still sometimes I can't help but wonder what Xi Jinping wrote in his thank-you letter to Bill Gates at the end of February 2020.

Feb 22, 2020 -- China's Xi Writes Thank-You Letter to Bill Gates for Virus Help

https://archive.ph/sgynZ

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

The stuff I've seen in your posts or links about tencent etc. Very juicy.

Thanks! :D

Hey, suggest you set up a free blog with an email and e-subscribe link. Set up the blog, then I can email you.

Ha. I'll take it as a serious x100 compliment. Thanks. But I am not the one who's able to display that much of diligence. -_-; Again, thanks!

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

They tried to spread it out from ground zero.

It appears that way. Time to time I talk with a couple of guys who's been living in Changsha and Wuhan long enough, and their recounts sounded they weren't exactly sure that the local governments actually wanted to closed down the area at the end of the January.

Pivoted quickly to exxageration, fakery, theatre, grassroots chinese whispers. It worked.

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you describe your source?

If I can, I'm not typing them here: instead, I'll send the full article to people like Greenwald to make a decent bucks. :D Still, my hunch is that, what I wrote here is already fairly well known to people who are in the Mr. Hersh or even Greenwald level journalism. Why can't they go public with these? You know why.

Clinton clique? Dont you mean cfr oxford etc. The Clintons are lowly agents.

Bill or Hillary, yes I 100% agree that, they're merely enforcers. Here, Clinton clique is just a banner, if you will, for a group of people with means who work together on/for their common purposes.

CFR is a think tank, just like Atlantic Council. Do you think everyone who is getting paid by CFR (or Atlantic Council) work for one boss? To me, it doesn't look that way. Yes, most of them are working to enact the neo feudalism and some groups even are believed to have detailed work plans laid out till 2025. Still, my assessment is that people work for or in Atlantic Council (or CFR) do not behave like one entity.

Who does Brezinski work for?

Would you believe they're working only for themselves, even if they time to time collaborate with other factions?

Are they working for/under commands from the robber barons such as the Rockefellers? Absolutely. Among political analysts, there was a lame joke about Hillary circulated during the Obama admin that states: If you have enough money, you can hire Hillary to do anything. I don't think it's a joke.

The china vax is obviously a normal flu vax.

This is rather a bit complicated one, I have heard. But the gist is that: The virus was devised for real life applications but this version turned out to be a bust. They kind of knew about it beforehand. Still they had to execute the plan at the end of 2019.

Will it be mrna in the near term?

This, it seems I and people around me for that matter have little idea.

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would like to add one more notion:

There have not been many operations of theirs (?) that just had/have one sole objective. Often the major operations in the past were observed to have had multiple objectives. It's because those operations were carried out by various interest groups, not a single group.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

great write-up, ive been looking for sm based info about the chinese power faction

Thank you! :)

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

that's why they want to use it as a model.

Exactly. I cannot stress enough how true it is.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

Choosing Xi created an entirely ffd up timeline. Keqiang would of been much better.

I agree with you on both accounts. Especially on the latter if I were an ordinary chinese guy.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well done. What I'm new to is how they play into the larger globalist structure. Thanks for elaborating on that.

Thanks for your kind words! :)

You're obviously an "Old China Hand".

Not quite. :D I'll take it as a compliment. :) But I know a number of them.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok so the Brzenzki faction (XI) sponsored Myanmar lady, then the Bush faction made deal with myanmar military and got them to remove her?

Yes. And the rumour is that the bush faction made a deal with myanmar junta via israeli faction that controls eastmed pipeline.

Now, major groups in brzezinski faction (= xi's princelings + the current us admin) is trying to get back at the bush + israeli faction after xi's people hasn't been really successful with talking to the junta through diplomatic channels.

Sep 29, 2021 -- Myanmar’s military junta powerless as currency drops 60% in four weeks [LINK]

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

So it was the Chinese faction that was on team with Bush that sponsored Myanmar coup now? And they are against Xi?

Correct. That's the gist.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

So the 4 factions you mention in China is gangs, and Rockefellers and Rots etc are Cartels?

Yes. Those 4 factions and other factions in other nations such as us and uk are gangs. And the rockefelles, the rothschilds, and other so called robber barons being cartels.

i really dont see them bending their knees to the internationals

No one believes they're bending their knees to nobody. Most of them are so called true believers in their own mind: They believe they just work for their own cause or interests. In the real world, there are not many true believers.

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the chick who got rekt by myanmar military right?

Correct.

She is friends with Obamas,

I'm not sure their definition of "being friends" but you could say that, because they'll say that in front of media.

and you say Brzenzki faction sponsored/controls Xi's faction, so this means Xi now controls Myanmar through their military?

No.

Many groups in brzezinski faction have been sponsoring xi's princelings even before wang lijun incident.

After 2020 us election, the rumour was that there were turf wars going on between genie energy faction (closer to the bush clan) and jarrett clique (brzezinski faction) in the us fighting over various things including opium cash cow in afghanistan.

During this period, genie energy faction, cooperating with new shin bet clique this time, also reached out to myanmar generals and sponsored their coup in order to recover what the faction believe was theirs all along.

Does this mean xi's faction lost control of myanmar's resources? Not quite. Let the following two articles explain:

Apr 04, 2021 -- China’s ‘laissez-faire’ approach toward Myanmar’s coup puts its own interests at risk, says analyst

https://web.archive.org/web/20210405002237/https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/05/myanmar-coup-chinas-non-interference-could-hurt-china-says-analyst.html

Apr 26, 2021 -- Understanding the relations between Myanmar and China

https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/understanding-the-relations-between-myanmar-and-china/

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was interesting read.

Thanks. :)

So Xi is on team with Obama's team? Or is he just using them?

It's more like business interests behind brzenski faction are sponsoring both obama clique and xi's faction.

Since George Soros is allied to Democrats in the US and does all the propaganda for them, seems weird that him and Xi would fight if they are on same team

Ironically soros made a fortune with investments on shanghai clique controlled businesses such as alibaba or tencent. When those businesses were doing okay even under xi's state coucil, soros never yapped about ccp's economic & monetary policies.

Think about drug gangs in a certain area, such as central los angeles. They constantly engaged in turf wars to death with each others, but before major drug cartels, those gang wars mean nothing.

As you can guess, those factions and cliques are drug gangs. The cartels being the rothschilds and the rockefellers.

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

We really should stop looking at what's going on from the perspective of the nation-state, such as the us vs china. Or even from the perspective of left vs right. It's the so called globalist + its sympathizers vs the rest.

And we should be able to see that the term "globalist" or "globalism" is misleading, because the term describes nothing of its true nature, a great worshiper of global authoritarianism or neo-feudalism.

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vanillabluesea 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hm. It's taken a couple months later than people(?) anticipated actually. I guess, even with all those constantly blaring propaganda, not enough of people wanted to take the new type of vaccine or genuinely believed the hype.

And for "what now." The speculation is that since they have completed (1) clinical trials on over 50 percent of the entire western population, (2) the $86 trillion great wealth transfer, and (3) psychological assessment to people's pain tolerance threshold for the neofeudalism they now believe they've near perfected while testing on mao's china; it's time to 'slowly' let the peasants go back to their, not "before the covid," economic activities. Otherwise, the resistance will exceed the control line buffer, so they would need to spend more efforts they like to 'regulate' this pesky peasants.

How about the world war, as in a bigger war than local conflicts, for the next step? Sincerely hope not. But we would need to keep watching closely what's happening in south china sea and northern africa regions to guess further.

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

For the record, I'm not claiming that the moderna's mrna vaccine functions as a vaccine for this so called new coronavirus or even it's effective on weakening the symptoms, if there's actually a virus at all.

Amusing tidbits:

If it is indeed true that the family of cnpgc(a.k.a sinopharm)'s president went abroad to get something else other than their own pharmaceutical, it says many things. One of which is:

I thought the status, or significance it you will, of sinopharm's president would be much higher, or better(?), within the ccp's state council that they let him in on what's really real. Guess not.

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vanillabluesea 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have been so indoctrinated that China is bad.. of course you will believe they are responsible for how every pol went dictator.

Yea? You should tell that to zhao kezhi's daughter. Or jiang chaoliang's brothers. Or you might want to look into why the family of liu jingzhen was said to have visited vancouver in feb. 2021 to get none other than the moderna vaccine.

But you're absolutely right: china isn't "bad." The so called globalists behind the ccp who have been playing xi jinping and/or wang huning like a fiddle, those globalists are the ones who are actually responsible for what's going on right now. Not those mere puppets in the ccp's "oh, we're so against the western imperialist" state council.

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vanillabluesea 3 points ago +3 / -0

With this wuhan military game bit, the ccp shills have been claiming it's the us that started to spread the new coronavirus (we really should stop looking at what's going on from the perspective of the nation-state),

but as I posted here on this board before,

wuhan city even had a training exercise on sep 18, 2019, well before the 7th military world games (oct. 18-27, 2019),

which was focused on the definitive course of disposing a new type of coronavirus infection found in the airport passages.

Okay.

But the question we would really need to be asking is that "why are they releasing this via mainstream channels? Why now? And who is doing this?"

Amusingly enough it seems it's all connected with the recent developments such as evergrande crisis, intentionally butchered afghanistan withdrawal, ccp's crack down on their big techs, so called aukus pact, and what's been going on right now between genie energy faction (think israel and the bushes), jarrett clique (think obama and co.), fang fenghui clique (one of the major pla cliques), and fang fang clique of so called hua-jing society (blackrock's direct puppet within xi's princelings).

I'd buy more popcorn.

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vanillabluesea 6 points ago +6 / -0

Easy. You see, people who told or allowed the us government to send the fund to wuhan and people behind the ccp faction that controls their biotech sectors are the same people. We should stop looking at what's going on from the perspective of the nation-state.

Edited to add: If I said what I said above, some people will say "omg do you really believe those people are powerful enough to be able to instruct the us government what to do?" Mm, yes and no. However, don't be silly: they didn't have to tell the whole us federal government but only the necessary sections and departments. Remember when ms. clinton ran sap materials on her private server? How do you think it was possible?

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vanillabluesea 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's not just cnn. Like greenwald said on another tweet, it's the whole fabric of the media, so called big tech, and the good majority of pundits & commenters. Last year, we watched how the biden doc 'incident' unfolded in real time. Now you tell me that's not neofeudalism becoming one more step closer to reality which those robber barons such as the rockefellers, a.k.a the globalists, envisioned for a considerable amount of time. I guess they liked the system enough to have decided to execute it here in the us after they tested it in mao's china.

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