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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

AUM stands for Assets Under Management.


What is BlackRock? BlackRock originated in 1988 as an asset management company for institutional investors.

At first, it was part of Blackstone Financial, according to Blackstone founder and CEO Steve Schwarzman. When Larry Fink decided to break his company out from under Blackstone’s name, he and Schwarzman came up with the name “BlackRock” with tongue firmly in cheek.

BlackRock is the biggest investment manager in the world. It serves institutional and individual investors. BlackRock originally specialized in fixed-income investments like bonds and mortgage-backed securities. It also owns and manages the iShares line of exchange-traded funds (ETFs).

Today, BlackRock also provides expertise on mutual funds, ETFs and alternative investments. The company prioritizes risk management, counseling its clients with sophisticated tools to limit adverse exposure. As of Q2 2024, BlackRock’s assets under management (AUM) totaled more than $10.6 trillion.

Pros of BlackRock Investor accessibility: BlackRock works with institutional and individual investors, meaning both professional and casual investors can benefit from its expertise. Diverse options: BlackRock covers the entire range of investment opportunities, including stock portfolios, mutual funds, ETFs and other vehicles. A diverse portfolio lessens overall risk for public and private investors. Focus on the long view: BlackRock’s experts concentrate on an asset’s long-term potential for growth. For clients, this heightens the possibility of increased profits via compounding returns. User-friendliness: With strong attention to client accessibility, BlackRock simplifies the investment process as much as possible. It provides easy-to-use tools for clients to manage their holdings. Cons of BlackRock Limited focus on alternative investments: BlackRock earned its keep through traditional investment strategies like stocks, bonds and funds. It does have a division, BlackRock Alternative Investors (BAI), that covers some private investments. However, BAI works almost exclusively with institutional investors. Too big to ignore: BlackRock’s standing as the largest investment firm in the world may mean it has an outsized influence on the stock market. While that could work to its clients’ advantage, it may work against others. What is Blackstone? Blackstone was founded in 1985 by former employees of Lehman Brothers (including Schwarzman). Its original focus was on mergers and acquisitions. Blackstone has evolved into the world's biggest private equity firm and alternative investment strategy company.

Blackstone is one of the key drivers of private equity financing, having invested in healthcare, technology, energy, media and other companies. As the firm has grown, it’s expanded its holdings into commercial real estate, developed hedge fund solutions and provided loans through its credit division.

Working exclusively with private entities, Blackstone has more managerial and structural influence on the companies it invests in. The total value of the assets it manages is estimated at more than $1 trillion.

Until recently, Blackstone’s clients were exclusively institutional investors. In the last couple of years, however, the firm has shifted its focus to high-wealth individual investors.

Pros of Blackstone Alternative investment expertise: Blackstone’s experience with alternative investments is unrivaled. The firm has helped institutional investors find private opportunities that aren’t offered through the stock market. Hands-on management: Blackstone tends to have considerable influence on the private companies it invests in. Advising on everything from operational efficiency to organizational structure, Blackstone has a direct hand in its investments’ profitability. Great timing: The firm’s close attention to market trends and factors gives it the uncanny ability to buy and sell for profit. It especially excels in bull markets, when its strategic unloading of assets puts big money in investors’ pockets. Global reach: Blackstone has a heavy presence on the global financial scene. It’s able to find alternative investments in sites around the world, a very rare position for an investment firm to be in. Cons of Blackstone Near-exclusivity to wealthy clients: After years of working with institutions, Blackstone only recently started working with individual investors. However, all Blackstone clients must have enough capital to fund its high-risk, high-reward investments. Low liquidity: Since Blackstone works with alternative investments that don’t trade on public exchanges, the assets aren’t very liquid. When an investor has to wait a long time for their transaction to process, they may not have a chance to capitalize on sudden opportunities. Comparing BlackRock vs. Blackstone How do these investment firms stack up? Let’s take a look.

Company Structure BlackRock is headed by its Global Executive Committee, with its board of directors and leaders close behind. This group includes founder, long-time Chairman and CEO Larry Fink. BlackRock employs over 16,000 people across the world.

Blackstone divides its operations into four sectors: real estate, private equity, credit and insurance and hedge fund solutions. These divisions are run by senior managing directors, who are overseen by a group of six executives. One of them is company founder and CEO Steve Schwarzman.

Investment Strategies BlackRock deploys several investment strategies, according to its website. Its primary tools include risk factor investing, global tactical asset allocation and index fund strategies. BlackRock touts its customization abilities, flexibility and enhanced scale in its investment approach.

Per its website, Blackstone’s concentration on alternative investments requires an emphasis on “fast-growing sectors.” These include tech, life sciences and sustainability-focused firms. Its approach also includes more hands-on management of the firms it funds.

Performance and Track Record BlackRock's Q2 2024 Earnings Highlights:

EPS: Reported diluted EPS of $9.99 ($10.36 adjusted). AUM: Total assets under management reached $10.6 trillion, a $1.2 trillion increase year-over-year. Revenue & Income: Revenue increased by 8% year-over-year to $4.805 billion. Operating income rose by 11% year-over-year (12% adjusted). Net Inflows: Achieved $82 billion in quarterly total net inflows and $139 billion in first-half total net inflows. Share Repurchases: Conducted $500 million in share repurchases during the quarter. Acquisitions: Announced the acquisition of Preqin and Global Infrastructure Partners. CEO Laurence D. Fink emphasized strong organic growth, innovative private market capabilities, and expanded ETF and active investment solutions.

In comparison, Blackstone reported strong results for the second quarter of 2024, with:

High Investment Activity: They saw nearly $40 billion in inflows and $34 billion deployed, marking the highest level in two years. Future Growth Potential: Blackstone highlights their early efforts in promising markets, particularly digital and energy infrastructure supporting AI. Clientele and Target Markets Traditionally, BlackRock and Blackstone have emphasized institutional investors — pension funds, insurance companies, endowments and so forth. In recent years, both companies have started initiatives to draw in individual investors.

However, private investors need to have large cash reserves or resources to work with them, particularly Blackstone.

Impact on the Industry BlackRock and Blackstone are titans in the investment field.

As the number one investment firm in the world, BlackRock’s influence on the market can be staggering. But Blackstone’s position as the leading alternative investment firm has given it sway in some of the newest, most promising future industries.

BlackRock vs. Blackstone: Who Wins? BlackRock and Blackstone both deliver real results to their clientele. Most of their clients tend to be institutions and super-wealthy individual investors. It’s uncertain how casual investors may interact or thrive with either firm.

The big difference between the two groups is the investment vehicles they choose. BlackRock works largely with traditional market vehicles like stocks, bonds and ETFs. Blackstone focuses on alternative investments that aren’t widely available to the public but could generate huge profits in the future.

If you can afford to play and have a high risk tolerance for new industries, Blackstone may be the firm for you. But if you want proven results with slightly safer commodities, BlackRock is the better choice.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Full sized screenshot of the thumbnail is from thread title link:

https://media.scored.co/post/JTu7AjkBs0Wr.jpeg

Here's the text.. Uploaded previous thread screenshot.


analyzing how the rich get richer.. yet.. attaching screenshot scrolling file.. can you see it? and read the text.


I can see the screenshot you attached and read the text within it. It appears to be a list of concepts related to financial strategies, investment, and wealth accumulation, possibly from an online article or a educational resource about how the wealthy manage and grow their assets.

The text seems to cover various aspects, including:

Investment Vehicles: Mentions of stocks, bonds, real estate, private equity, hedge funds, and alternative investments.

Tax Strategies: Discussion of tax planning, deductions, and possibly tax-advantaged accounts.

Debt Management: Using leverage, good debt vs. bad debt.

Business Ownership & Entrepreneurship: Starting and scaling businesses.

Compounding & Long-Term Growth: The power of reinvesting returns.

Financial Education & Advice: Importance of knowledge and expert guidance.

Asset Protection: Trusts, legal structures.

Global Investments: Diversifying internationally.

It looks like a comprehensive overview of the strategies often employed by affluent individuals to increase their wealth.


yes.. that works if you have lots of money.. but I can bet that the wealthy who know these secrets.. can still figure out how to "make money" from very little.. even just 1000 US dollars.. That's tough, though, eh.. but what would they do in that scenario?


You've hit on a fascinating point! While many of those strategies are amplified by large sums, the core principles of wealth creation can indeed be applied with much smaller amounts. It's not about magic, but about applying smart financial habits and understanding where to best allocate resources.

If a financially savvy individual, starting with just $1,000 USD, wanted to "make money," they'd likely focus on strategies that prioritize return on effort and calculated risk over sheer capital. They'd think in terms of active income generation combined with smart, small-scale investments.

Here's what they might do, breaking it down into likely phases:

Phase 1: Grow the $1,000 into a larger seed (Focus on Active Income & Skill Leverage)

Invest in Themselves/Skill Acquisition: This is often the first and highest-return investment.

Online Courses/Certifications: Spend a portion (e.g., $100-$300) on a course that teaches a high-demand skill (e.g., digital marketing, copywriting, basic web design, graphic design, social media management, data entry, virtual assistant skills, proofreading).

Books/Resources: Acquire knowledge in a specific niche that can be monetized.

Start a "Micro-Business" / Freelancing: This is where the active income comes in.

Service-Based: Leverage the new or existing skill to offer services. Platforms like Upwork, Fiverr, or local community groups can be used to find clients. They'd focus on quick, high-margin services.

Product Re-selling (Low-Barrier): This isn't about traditional retail, but more like "flipping."

Thrift Store/Garage Sale Finds: Buy undervalued items (antiques, collectibles, certain electronics, branded clothing) for low prices and sell them online (eBay, Facebook Marketplace) for a profit. This requires knowledge of markets.

Online Arbitrage: Find clearance items or deals online and resell them on Amazon FBA (if the profit margin is significant enough to cover FBA fees even at a small scale) or other platforms.

Optimize Existing Expenses/Debt: While not "making" money, freeing up capital is crucial.

Debt Reduction (High Interest): If there's any high-interest debt (credit cards, payday loans), a portion of the $1,000 might be used to pay it down, as the guaranteed "return" is the avoided interest. This isn't usually the first step for wealth-building, but important for financial stability.

Budgeting & Cutting Costs: Ruthlessly cut non-essential expenses to free up more cash flow from regular income.

Phase 2: Transition to Small-Scale Passive/Semi-Passive Investments (Once the initial $1,000 has grown)

Once they've grown the initial $1,000 to, say, $3,000 - $5,000 through active income, they would then diversify into:

Index Funds/ETFs (Micro-Investments):

Dollar-Cost Averaging: Instead of trying to time the market, they'd systematically invest a small, fixed amount regularly into broad market index funds (e.g., S&P 500 ETFs) through a low-cost brokerage. Many brokerages allow fractional shares or have very low minimums.

Robo-Advisors: Services like Wealthsimple, Questrade (in Canada), or Fidelity Go (in the US) allow investing with small amounts and automate diversification.

Dividend Stocks (Small Scale): Identify stable companies that pay consistent dividends. Reinvesting these dividends can accelerate compounding.

Real Estate Crowdfunding (Very Small Scale): Some platforms allow investments as low as $500 or $1,000, though this is higher risk and less liquid. This would be a later consideration.

High-Yield Savings Accounts / GICs: While not high-return, these are safe places to park emergency funds or cash awaiting investment, earning some interest.

Small Business Investment (Themselves or Others): If their micro-business grows, they'd reinvest profits to scale it, potentially hiring help or investing in better tools. Alternatively, they might look for tiny opportunities to lend money or invest in a friend's promising micro-venture with clear terms.

Key Principles They'd Apply:

Financial Literacy: Continual learning about money, markets, and opportunities.

Discipline & Consistency: Saving and investing regularly, no matter how small the amount.

Delayed Gratification: Resisting the urge to spend the small profits immediately.

Risk Management: Not putting all $1,000 into a single high-risk venture. Diversifying even small amounts.

Leveraging Time: Understanding that compounding takes time, and starting early is key.

Focus on Value: Buying things for less than they are worth, whether it's a skill, an item to flip, or an investment.

Networking: Connecting with others who are financially savvy or in their chosen micro-industry.

Problem Solving: Identifying a need or problem in the market and figuring out how to solve it for money.

It's a slower, more deliberate path with $1,000, relying heavily on personal effort, learning, and disciplined reinvestment of profits from small-scale ventures before moving into traditional passive investing. The "secret" is rarely a secret at all, but rather the consistent application of sound financial principles and a willingness to work for it.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

these rich guys who get there by starting companies and owning lots of stock. They claim they're the richest guys.. yet they don't have cash, because to get some, they'd have to sell some stock, and they don't because it'll be worth more later. They also can't just cash it all out at once, because it would bankrupt the companies. So where do these guys get the money to buy mansions.


You've hit on a common misconception about how the ultra-rich operate! While it's true that their wealth is primarily tied up in illiquid assets like company stock, they don't typically "cash out" large portions to buy things like mansions. Doing so would indeed have significant negative impacts, including:

Massive Tax Bill: Selling stock triggers capital gains taxes, which could mean losing a large percentage of the sale amount to the government.

Impact on Stock Price: Selling huge blocks of shares can depress the company's stock price, hurting their remaining holdings and the company's value.

Loss of Control: For founders, selling too much stock could mean losing their majority ownership or significant influence over the company.

Loss of Future Growth: If the company's stock is expected to continue growing, selling it now means missing out on future appreciation.

So, how do they get the cash for those mansions, yachts, and other extravagant purchases? The answer is often through borrowing against their assets.

Here's how it generally works:

Securities-Backed Lines of Credit (SBLOCs): This is a very common method. Wealthy individuals can use their valuable stock holdings as collateral for a low-interest loan or a line of credit from a private bank. The bank knows that the underlying assets are highly valuable, so they're willing to lend at very favourable rates (often much lower than a typical personal loan).

Benefits: They get the cash they need without selling their stock, avoiding capital gains taxes, maintaining their ownership, and keeping their investments growing. They only pay interest on the amount they actually borrow.

Risks: If the market dips significantly and the value of their pledged stock falls below a certain threshold, they might face a "margin call," requiring them to put up more collateral or sell some stock to cover the loan. However, for genuinely wealthy individuals, their portfolios are often diverse and robust enough to mitigate this risk.

Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOCs): If they already own significant real estate, they can also use that as collateral for a HELOC. This allows them to borrow against the equity in their existing properties.

Private Bank Loans: For the ultra-high-net-worth, private banks offer highly customized lending solutions. They can use a wide range of assets as collateral, including real estate, art collections, private business interests, and even luxury items like yachts or private jets. These loans are often tailored to their specific needs and come with bespoke terms.

"Buy, Borrow, Die" Strategy: This is a more aggressive, long-term strategy often discussed in the context of tax avoidance. The idea is to:

Buy Assets: Accumulate valuable assets (like company stock) and allow them to appreciate significantly.

Borrow Against Assets: When cash is needed, borrow against these appreciated assets rather than selling them. The loan proceeds are not considered taxable income.

Die: Upon the individual's death, the assets are passed to heirs. Under current U.S. tax law, the "cost basis" of these assets is "stepped up" to their market value at the time of death. This means the heirs can sell the assets without paying capital gains tax on the appreciation that occurred during the deceased's lifetime. The loan can then be repaid from the estate.

In essence, these rich individuals leverage their wealth rather than liquidating it. They understand that holding onto their appreciating assets is key to long-term wealth growth, and borrowing provides a way to access liquidity without disrupting that strategy or incurring immediate tax burdens.


yeah so they borrow against their assets but they still have to make monthly payments.. to get that money, they'd have to sell some of that stock


You've raised a very astute point! While borrowing against assets is a key strategy, loans still have interest payments and, eventually, principal repayment. So, where does that cash come from for the ultra-wealthy, if they're still trying to avoid selling their highly appreciated stock?

Here are several ways they manage those payments without liquidating their core holdings:

Dividends and Interest from Other Investments: While a founder's main company stock might not pay dividends (or might pay a very low one, as profits are often reinvested for growth), the ultra-wealthy typically have diversified portfolios. They own a variety of other assets like:

Dividend-paying stocks: Many mature, stable companies pay regular dividends.

Bonds: Bonds provide regular interest payments.

Rental properties/Real estate investments: These can generate significant rental income.

Private equity or hedge fund distributions: Investments in these types of funds can generate ongoing cash distributions.

Other businesses: They might own stakes in or receive income from other operating businesses. This "passive income" from their other holdings can be substantial enough to cover loan interest payments and lifestyle expenses.

Refinancing/Taking Out New Loans: This is a common strategy, especially with securities-backed lines of credit. If their underlying assets (like their stock) continue to appreciate, they can often:

Borrow more against the increased value: As their stock grows, the amount they can borrow against it also increases. They can take out a new, larger loan or expand their existing line of credit and use a portion of the new proceeds to pay off the interest on the old loan and get more cash for living expenses.

Refinance at lower rates: If interest rates drop, they can refinance their loans for more favorable terms, reducing their monthly payments. This effectively kicks the can down the road, allowing them to continue benefiting from their appreciating assets without triggering a taxable event.

Strategic Small Sales (Minimized Impact): While they avoid large, sudden liquidations, they might occasionally sell a very small, carefully managed portion of their holdings. This could be done for several reasons:

Diversification: To slowly diversify out of a concentrated position.

Tax Loss Harvesting: To offset capital gains with capital losses from other investments, minimizing the tax impact.

Covering a specific large expense: If a very large, immediate cash need arises that isn't easily covered by borrowing or other income streams, a targeted sale might occur. However, these are often planned to minimize market impact and tax implications.

Tax Planning and Deductions: The ultra-rich employ sophisticated tax advisors who help them minimize their taxable income.

Interest Deductibility: In some cases, interest paid on loans used for investment purposes can be tax-deductible, further reducing their overall tax burden.

Depreciation on Real Estate: If they own significant real estate, they can often use depreciation deductions to offset other income, even if the properties are appreciating in value.

Business Expenses: Expenses related to their various business ventures can be used to reduce taxable income.

"Buy, Borrow, Die" (as previously mentioned): In this ultimate strategy, the goal is to never actually sell the appreciated assets during their lifetime. The loans accumulate, and upon their death, the heirs receive the assets with a "stepped-up basis" (meaning the cost basis is reset to the market value at the time of death). The heirs can then sell a portion of these assets to pay off the outstanding loans without incurring significant capital gains tax on the appreciation that occurred during the original owner's life.

So, it's not typically about earning a "salary" in the traditional sense to make loan payments. It's about leveraging existing wealth, generating passive income from a diversified portfolio, and using sophisticated financial and tax strategies to maintain liquidity without realizing capital gains on their primary wealth drivers.


well not all stocks give dividends.. so what do they do then to pay those loans to get the mansions


You're absolutely right to hone in on that! The idea that wealthy individuals simply borrow endlessly without any cash flow to support those loans is a bit of a myth. While they avoid selling their core, highly appreciated, often concentrated stock holdings, they have multiple sophisticated strategies to generate the cash needed for loan payments and their lavish lifestyles, even if those core holdings don't pay dividends.

Here's a deeper dive into how they get that "cash for payments":

Diversified Income Streams (Beyond Core Stock):

Other Investments: Even if their primary company stock doesn't pay dividends, the ultra-wealthy almost always have a highly diversified investment portfolio. This includes:

Dividend-Paying Stocks: They invest in other mature, stable companies that do pay substantial dividends. These dividends provide a steady stream of income.

Bonds: They hold a significant amount of bonds, which generate regular interest payments.

Real Estate: Rental properties, commercial real estate, or even land investments can generate considerable rental income.

Hedge Funds & Private Equity Distributions: Investments in these types of alternative funds often result in regular cash distributions.

Other Businesses: Many wealthy individuals are serial entrepreneurs or investors in multiple businesses. Profits from these other ventures can provide significant cash flow.

Royalties, Intellectual Property, etc.: For some, income can come from intellectual property, licensing deals, or other passive revenue streams.

Strategic, Small-Scale Stock Sales (Carefully Managed):

While they avoid liquidating large chunks of their primary company stock, they might engage in very carefully planned, small-scale sales of other stock holdings or even a tiny fraction of their core stock. These sales are often:

Tax-Loss Harvesting: Selling losing investments to offset gains and reduce overall tax liability, creating "cash" from the tax savings.

Diversification Sales: Slowly selling off a small portion of a highly concentrated position over time to diversify their portfolio and reduce risk, using the proceeds for liquidity.

Pre-planned Sales: Sometimes, a public company founder might have a pre-arranged stock selling plan (known as a 10b5-1 plan in the U.S.) to sell a set number of shares at regular intervals. This provides predictable cash flow while minimizing market impact and insider trading concerns.

Refinancing and Expanding Loans:

As their underlying assets appreciate (the stock they've borrowed against continues to go up in value), the value of their collateral increases. This allows them to:

Borrow More: They can take out a larger loan or expand their existing line of credit. A portion of this new borrowed money can then be used to pay off the interest and potentially some principal on the old loan, effectively "rolling over" the debt and getting additional cash.

Lower Interest Rates: If market interest rates decline, they can refinance their loans at a lower rate, reducing their monthly payment obligations.

Interest-Only Loans / Structured Finance:

Many loans for the ultra-wealthy, especially those from private banks, are structured as interest-only for a significant period. This dramatically reduces the monthly cash outflow compared to a principal-and-interest loan. The principal might only be due at maturity, at which point it could be refinanced again, or paid off via the "Buy, Borrow, Die" strategy.

They might use "structured finance solutions" that are highly customized to their specific asset base and cash flow patterns.

Tax Efficiency:

Their financial advisors work diligently to minimize taxable income. Borrowed money is generally not considered taxable income, so the cash they receive from loans is tax-free.

Interest paid on loans used for investment purposes can sometimes be tax-deductible, further reducing their overall tax burden and effectively lowering the cost of borrowing.

In essence, their strategy isn't about generating a traditional "salary" to pay off loans. It's about a continuous cycle of:

Growing Assets: Their core wealth (often non-dividend-paying stock) continues to appreciate.

Leveraging Assets: They borrow against this appreciating wealth to gain liquidity without triggering capital gains taxes.

Generating Diverse Income: They use other investments and ventures to produce sufficient cash flow for lifestyle and loan interest payments.

Strategic Debt Management: They refinance, manage interest-only periods, and plan for long-term repayment (often via "Buy, Borrow, Die") to avoid major taxable events.

It's a complex, highly specialized approach to wealth management that aims to maximize asset growth, minimize taxes, and provide continuous liquidity.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Saw this when browsing the reels section on instagram. His profile username is "_tradwill". Has 19k followers. So it's not too much of a scam profile. 700 posts.. conspiracy stuff.

Ran that through video to text.. this was the transcript.

"What is the world coming to? They're now making me out two of the worst things you can put in your body, soy and human feces. Japanese scientists have developed a method to create edible steaks from human feces. Unbelievable? Well, it's happening. Mitsuyuki Aikita, a researcher at the Okoyama Laboratory collaborated with Tokyo Sewage to address sewage mud excess. They discovered the content in the mud contains high protein due to bacteria. So the team isolated and combined these proteins with a reaction enhancer. Result? Synthetic steak. The meat comprises of 63% protein, 25% carbs, 3% lipids, and 9% minerals. And it's visually enhanced with food coloring for a red hue and improved flavor using soy protein."


Checking with google gemini AI. At first, it's not giving me direct site links and I go.. cough it up. Then it gave these. I checked the first one, they get into it.

Here are the direct links to the articles I cited, demonstrating their publication dates in 2011 and their coverage of the "poop burger" story:

Salon.com: "The mystery of the Japanese 'poop burger' story"

Link: https://www.salon.com/2011/06/23/japan_feces_meat_viral/

Published: June 23, 2011

Inhabitat: "POOP BURGER: Japanese Researchers Create Artificial Meat From Human Feces"

Link: https://inhabitat.com/poop-burger-japanese-researcher-creates-artificial-meat-from-human-feces/

Published: June 16, 2011

Live Science: "Steak Made from Human Excrement: Is It Safe?"

Link: https://www.livescience.com/14669-poop-meat-safety.html

Published: June 17, 2011

CNET: "Japanese scientist creates 'poop burger'? Surely not"

Link: https://www.cnet.com/culture/japanese-scientist-creates-poop-burger-surely-not/

Published: June 18, 2011

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newfunturistic 3 points ago +3 / -0

How I wound up here.. was scrolling instagram reels and saw this one.

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DF9FvIRsu6v/

Let me get a transcript of that.

"So now we're searching for the magic frequency and we start with a hundred hertz and we look through the microscope to see if anything's happening. We watch for five minutes. Nothing happens. So we try a hundred and one hertz. We look through the scope for five minutes and nothing happens. So we try a hundred and two, 103 and so on. Over the course of 15 months we try hundreds and hundreds of frequencies, if not thousands, until we find the magic combination. The answer is you have to have two input frequencies, one low, one high and the higher frequency must be 11 times the lower. It's what we musicians would call the 11th harmonic. When we add the 11th harmonic we begin to shatter microorganisms like a crystal glass. These are the first videos taken. We showed these videos to our friends in the biology department. They said they hadn't seen anything quite like it. Seems to be a new phenomenon. These organisms are being shattered by our electronic signals."


I looked up on youtube for 11th harmonic. I play a video and it was lots of sub bass. I'm there.. this is just sub bass, there's no two tones. Download it, open it up in Izotope RX where you can see spectrogram. There was two tones. But you gotta watch it that the low one isn't below what your speakers start at. Then there was a line for a higher pitched one. Looking at the Hz, the low one, you'd multiply it by 11x and that's where the second tone was.

They'd have these videos and it would say, oh these tones are supposed to help if you got this ailment.

I'm there.. "maybe" but that Royal Rife stuff where he had specific numbers, that was more the real deal. So looked around for some kind of list of the tones he had from his research. That's when I found this pdf. That's clicking the thread title link.

https://alphasurya.nl/Documentation/Frequency%20List.pdf

I uploaded it to google gemini AI and was asking about it. Like what do they do here.. They'd play each tone for 3 minutes. But sometimes it's out of speaker range. So that Rife machine would be able to generate those frequencies. You'd also want to put it by the body part that has the ailment.

Gonna hang on to this pdf. Like you can get some ailment later in the future where you could be fucked, eh. So who knows.. Let's see what these Rife machines cost. lol. You better test that this shit is generating those tones. At least with the audio range you can check with spectrogram.

Checking amazon for rife machine, see this one:

PTMTFYL Schumann Generator, 7.83Hz 0.01Hz~100000Hz Adjustable Schumann Sine Wave Resonance Generator, Ultra Low Frequency Pulse Generator, USB Rechargeable for Relaxation (Green)

Price, $27.99

That's pretty good how you're getting 100000Hz. Normal speakers go to like "Normal speakers generally cover the frequency range of human hearing, which is typically 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz (or 20 kHz)". I think my tower speakers start at 50Hz. So at least this machine is generating some type of tones like that, eh.

One time I was looking up bat noises which are past our hearing range. But it's like.. most audio files aren't gonna go into that range. It was some odd file type where they did and I lowered the pitch and they sounded like monkeys. I posted it on reddit and this UK daily mail picks it up. Let me look that up.

Oh yeah look they were talking about me there.. says funturistic. lol.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3513771/Squawks-squeals-screams-grave-eerie-sounds-bat-calls-revealed-chilling-audio-clips.html

ok I said "the .wavs are 250,000 Hz". So it was like wav files and the info was there. I think if you do mp3 you don't get that range. So there's a way to record this shit maybe and check if your bogus machine is actually generating the tones it says. lol.

But yeah I'm gonna hang on to this pdf here, put in the folder of other people's audio and video stuff. If you get some bad ailment I'd rather fuck around with this than going on pills or getting cut open. lol.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, it's just initial tests.. obviously nothing's supposed to go on with any of this, but I'll start there. Later I can get some aluminum.

That Russian TV documentary.. when they got the black cloud going in there. That was after they put in a sheet of paper that had the circle that had 3 filled circles in it. That's called the "Roerich Banner of Peace". I heard of that guy before. Nicholas Roerich. I'm there.. that circle thing, that's a "sigil" in the occult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sigils_of_demons

I think these guys putting that sheet of paper in there, is what kick started the whole thing. Then you had negative entities involved.

If you're stuck with nothing going on with this stuff, you could test things like that out.

I also thought about that movie "Talk to me (2022)" where they'd just light a candle being on the other side see that. So.. in your mirror box tarp, you put a candle in there.. test at 3am. Things like that. In the Kozyrev setup too. I'm not gonna be fucking around with attracting negative entities though, but that's something somebody could do to try and get some action.

Also.. this afternoon was researching about trying to get a laser that would only have a horizontal line, then you'd stack multiple ones above each other to get more area instead of how it's just a + sign.

Was this bookmark from the other day with how they put them together. Pretty simple. That's good cause I don't know electronics.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SimulationTheory/comments/1gcqw8o/dmt_laser_experiment_pt_25_parts_list/

Looked on Ali express for "laser diffuser".

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-laser-diffuser.html

You get just lasers with a red and black wire but I'd look into what other things to get, like the battery holder pack that has a switch. Then you get a big pack of batteries. They're pretty cheap these days. Seeing some types that are just a horizontal line.

You also have different mW. In those types they had 5 to 50. I checked on youtube and 50 is good. I think the higher powered where they pop baloons are, like I don't know.. I think it was 500.

Was also this one.. where it would have patterns.. seems like a little clear square, you'd have to put that on the end. But it'd get a whole grid.

"5pcs/pack DOE Diffractive Optical Elements Lens DG Grating Laser Light Pattern Projection Stage Star Lighting Effect"

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002440134470.html

That 3rd one.. "grid 2". You get stuff like that, test it out. Probably have to stack a bunch of horizontal line types though.

Not gonna be doing DMT though.. lol.. too old for that. I'll see if I can get things going. But these days, gotta deal with the job situation but once that's stabilized I'll test all this out. Takes a few weeks to get stuff from China with ali express though.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

That foam polyethilene house insulation looks good.

I was looking back to when I had this gold mirror box setup with 10ft tripods with horizontal bars. 4 sets. They were only like 60 bucks each.

When I was looking around if anybody was making this Kozyrev setup, saw people would hang it from the ceiling and have a wire shape of it. Then you just clamp the tarps on that. Have one at the bottom too. Then you don't need a rigid backing. I'd use 2 sets of the tripods bars to get a + and hang the stuff from there.

I also saw somebody use two way mirror with a normal mirror, with an LED strip in between. You could look into it. Looked for that type of two way flexible mirror roll, and they have it on amazon too. Could run a test of that.. but with the Koyrev shape you can't really use that when it swirls inside itself. But you could use it on the outer area, this way you could look in, to see if odd stuff is going on. Has to be brighter than the outside. If you have it on house windows, when it's dark, they can see in. So it'd be another material to test out.

I also want to test having it horizontal and sleep in there.. so I'd need a rigid backing. The foam insulation would be great for that cause you're lying down inside the thing.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trying to figure out how to get my computer setup in this shape.. you'd need a bigger room. Watching those documentaries about it, you'd see them in a tube thing that was sideways, not upright. But it wasn't twirled up. You could take that tube on the right and put it on the side and could sleep in there and it'd still be twirled up on top of you. You couldn't be on the inside part because it'd push down on the open side. It'd be close though. Kind of would be like in that middle pic, on the bottom there. Betcha you'd have some weird dreams.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

yeah that damn bamboo wouldn't be good sticking it right on there. Would telegraph through. Looking up foam EVA mats. I see what you're talking about. That's the main thing too, keeping the idea as inexpensive as possible. It's gonna be a while till I stabilize the situation and can get around to it. Was scrolling down youtube and nobody's making these. That's because they think it has to be stainless steel.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh hey.. got some tabs open and gradually checking out stuff. Like earlier.. I'm going through the zerkala-kozyreva site you mentioned. Going through each section. On the page with the guy with the glasses who needed to run a beard trimmer on his eyebrows. There's a bunch of tiled youtube videos but they're in Russian. I thought of putting on the closed captions and changing it to english and it works. Just started on the first one, but I've got chores to do today.. but I'll gradually check this stuff out. I finished that Russian TV video though but still have that first one, Time mirrors, that's still paused at 14 min of 42.

So you tested out making this Kozyrev mirror, eh.. Me I'm interested in having a mirror finish, not this stainless. Can't fuck around with this right now cause no job and probably have to go to jail for a month after the court date next month, so can't apply for jobs.. been working at a temp agency past week. Once I deal with this crap and get a stable job.. then I'll test this stuff out.

You also got the laser thing.. not gonna be doing DMT cause I'm old and it could kill me. But I'll test out trying to get a wall full of it. Not the + area he's doing. It's this "diffused" laser.. I'll have to look into how you do those. But the idea is to get a horizontal line ----- of it.. then you get another laser above that and stack them to get more area. Cover a wall.

Also could test higher power lasers but you gotta get that eye protection. If it pops balloons probably not good going in that field.

The other day saw some geek on insta reels and he had this huge super ramped up laser gun and it'd weld. Maybe that'd get a matrix rain field going but you couldn't go into it. I'll run tests later in the future.

I was gonna try doing a mirror box, like I did with the gold leaf tarps on my funturistic insta. I'll get those tripods and horizontal bars.

Found some flexible mirror rolls. I got this bookmarked.

https://www.amazon.ca/FunStick-Flexible-Stickers-Adhesive-Reflective/dp/B09NDDTR4P/?th=1

60CM x 5M $45.78

Price looks ok but it'll be quite a bit.

Then I found out about this kozyrev mirrors so gonna test out that "fibonacci" shape. Instead of aluminum, gonna use this flexible mirror rolls.

Then I'm there.. I'll need some type of adjustable flexible backing. Looked around.. saw these bamboo rolls. Then I saw this really long type. And because of the swirl shape, it'd stay up without reinforcement. The mirror rolls has adhesive.. and when it goes in, then you'd do both sides. Here's those rolls, bookmarked that.

https://www.wayfair.ca/home-improvement/pdp/backyard-x-scapes-48-x-600-tatami-bamboo-wall-panelling-xbx10032.html

300 bucks for 48inch x 600 inches. You'd use duct tape and put one on the other for height. I don't have much room in here.. like 10x10 feet area in this room.. but the ceiling's pretty high it could handle double stacked.

Also 'll test out covering the top and bottom but you'd leave that entrance side open cause that's how the stuff gets in there. Also for oxygen. I wish I had more room cause then I could move my computer setup in the middle of this. Be busy working on stuff while you're in there. I got one of those murphy beds that pulls out of a closet but it's always down.. I could put that up and move the comp setup in the middle of the room but I've got big tower speakers and it's a hassle moving this stuff. I'll test stuff out. Then I could put this setup inside the Kosyrev mirror. Allright, so that's what's going on around here today.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did you watch this one he mentions at 12 minutes.. a real documentary from Russian TV. You can understand this stuff.. haha.

"Mirrors - Breaking the Future" 43 min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJ3FvUBX4E

I'm up to 34 min of it. But yeah.. did you see in the previous post how I was researching this stuff and found those flexible mirror roll sheets from amazon. Later when I stabilize the job situation gonna get a bunch sheets of this and make a big one in here to go in with the "Kozyrev mirror" shape.. but cap the top and bottom. I don't think anybody's tried this with mirror finish, it's probably always aluminium.

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newfunturistic 3 points ago +3 / -0

That happens to do with the research lately with this DMT laser. This dot they put is called a Bindi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindi

It says it's mainly girls who do that.. so who knows what the deal was with this guy. Although it sounds like some can do that but he was maybe gay, eh. lol. Whatever.. you'd see people from India who'd put this red dot but you wouldn't think how it has to do with the pineal gland.

They call it the Third eye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

"Especially in Eastern spiritual practices, the third eye refers to the gate that leads to the inner realms and spaces of higher consciousness, and often symbolizes a state of enlightenment. The third eye is often associated with religious visions, clairvoyance, the ability to observe chakras and auras,[2] precognition, and out-of-body experiences."

Just cause somebody has that third dot, I don't think it means they got these powers. But sometimes clairvoyant dudes are kinda gay.. so who knows, maybe this guy had a bit of that, eh.

But yeah.. the cigar.. The other month went to go pick just one up cause not much money.. and was like.. oh get this longer one. Seasons before that would get a round of like close to a dozen types, trying whole rows in those humidors. This time.. oh just try one. I happened to get this "HoH Nicaraguan churchill". Get home, and fuck, was it smooth. From all the tests before, even Cuban types.. you had some good ones. You can check the tests over at my insta funturistic. This one though.. it's probably the most smooth, where you can inhale it and not rough. If you've never smoked cigars.. this is a great type to try.

The whole cigar thing.. if you haven't researched.. this started when, on insta I noticed this doctor who was talking about nicotine healing powers. For all kinds of a maladies going on these days, where normally people have to go to the doctor and be on pills.. Nicotine 'll deal with that. But you don't wanna use cigarettes because of the wiki page of the 599 additives. They don't fuck around with cigars though, eh.. cause think about it.. in movies.. the rich bosses, that's what they smoke. Hang on, let me get that doctor guy. "Dr.Bryan Ardis (@thedrardisshow)".

Even shit like, cancer, man. You start getting some odd symptoms, smoke that. 1 cigar is like a whole pack of cigarettes, for the nicotine. These guys do the patches but that's the pharmaceutical industry, so I'm sure they'd be rigged.

This is interesting how I go to pick one up.. and see this guy from India, with the red dot.. and thinking about it.. happens to do with this DMT laser research past couple days.

But yeah.. you talk about the all seeing freemason eye on top of the pyramid.. that's this thing, here, eh. lol.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Researching the DMT laser stuff.. I see about this Kozyrev mirror. I'm there.. make it a real flexible mirror, not stainless steel. Then cap the top and bottom with more mirror. The diffused laser with the DMT stuff.. they were using this + shape.. Just have it a horizontal line. Then stack more lasers so you fill a wall. You could go in a cube mirror box. That's what I was thinking about before this.. but after seeing this spiral shape, that would be interesting to check out.


Up to 12min.. he mentions that they made a Russian documentary about this stuff, that was on TV over there.

"Mirrors - Breaking the Future"

I looked for it, has english subtitles. 43min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJ3FvUBX4E

Man.. what the fuck is going on with this spiral shape. And it's just aluminium. What if it was curved mirror.

Oh.. about the mirror box.. on Coast to coast AM.. heard Jushua P Warren test out this "devil's toy box". He's hear growling in there and would catch EVP's.

https://www.kcghosts.com/devil-s-toy-box-experiment

https://www.kcghosts.com/devil-s-toy-box-experiment-2

So I was like.. this DMT laser thing.. do like I did with my funturistic stuff on insta.. where I made this gold tarp box you could go in, to film gold properly. Make a big mirror box thing for this DMT stacked diffused lasers. But now this spiral shape.

Looked up "flexible mirror". Check this out..

FunStick Flexible Mirror Stickers Wall Stickers 12"x78.8" Self Adhesive Non Glass Safety Mirror Stickers Reflective Peel and Stick Mirror Paper Roll for Crafts Fun

https://www.amazon.ca/FunStick-Flexible-Stickers-Adhesive-Reflective/dp/B09NFDVKG7/?th=1

60CM x 5M $45.78

Once I get shit stabilized with the job stuff I'll test this shit out in that spiral shape and capped top and bottom with the mirror stuff. Get a bunch of those sheets.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Looking into this.. going through this page:

https://alieninsect.substack.com/p/on-the-dmt-laser-code-of-reality

Seems like the characters look like "Japanese katakana". If you check the matrix digital rain, they have those characters in there too.

Looking into this stuff.. you'd have to put together this laser. But you can also buy them made from the original guy.

https://www.codeofreality.com/laser-delivered-to-your-door

Here's the instructions for the parts if you want to put it together yourself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SimulationTheory/comments/1gcqw8o/dmt_laser_experiment_pt_25_parts_list/

I was looking into DMT vape pen and you can get it from pot places that have schrooms.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

How about computers.. I got my first one in April 1997. Cost like 3900. 120mhz.. whole hard drive was 1.6gb. Then I paid an extra 500 bucks to get an SCSI card and a cd burner put in at a computer store. To have the drive space to burn a 700mb disk was pretty tight. lol. Then you've got the spinning hard drives.. that was a 5400.. 7200 was nice. But these SSD's are awesome.

Then the broadband internet. Back on dialup.. it took me 6 hours to download 100mb halo 1 multiplayer demo. First comp, was on 28kbps, so 56k was nice.. lol.

But yeah.. we've come a long way with that stuff. I've had this one for I don't know.. a while compared to back then when you'd have to get a new one every couple years cause the hardware was better. Operating systems too.. blue screens with window ME.. windows 7 was good. So.. it takes a while for this shit to work out how it's bad, early on.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then I'm there.. no no.. do a full depth analysis of everything that was written in it. It's 22184 characters so part 2 of 2.


"tiny/oldr race call'd Drag'n Kings": This is a very specific and less common element, but it points to theories about ancient, pre-human, or even reptilian races (often called "reptilians" or "draconians") that secretly control humanity, often through royal bloodlines. "Dragon Kings" might be a personalized term for this. **"long skulls-eyes/archit..were fnd in Peru/ Turkey/Easter Is..": This refers to actual archaeological findings of elongated skulls in various parts of the world, which some conspiracy theorists (e.g., those promoting ancient astronaut theories) interpret as evidence of non-human beings or advanced ancient civilizations. The mention of specific locations grounds this fantastical claim in real-world (though misinterpreted) data. **DK's agenda: surveill'ce state/track'd travel-'money'... *CASTE sys (Caesar/ Gaza); elite's pedophilia; destabiliz'n (immigr'n/shoot'gs/war); gun confis'n.

This section outlines the perceived goals of these "Dragon Kings" or the broader conspiracy: Surveillance state/track'd travel-'money': Classic concerns about loss of privacy, government monitoring, and financial control (e.g., central bank digital currencies, cashless society). *CASTE sys (*Caesar/ Gaza): The idea of a rigid hierarchical system of control being imposed. The references to "Caesar" (ancient Roman emperor, symbol of autocratic rule) and "Gaza" (a contemporary conflict zone) are extremely jarring and illogical, indicative of severe thought disorder. It suggests an attempt to link ancient forms of social hierarchy with modern geopolitical conflicts. *elite's pedophilia: A disturbing and pervasive accusation in many modern conspiracy theories (e.g., QAnon, Pizzagate), claiming that a secret global pedophile ring is run by powerful elites. This is a highly sensitive and often baseless accusation that can incite violence. destabiliz'n (immigr'n/shoot'gs/war): Belief that societal disruptions, such as mass migration, school shootings, and wars, are not organic but are deliberately engineered to create chaos and fear, thereby making populations more pliable for control. gun confis'n: A deeply held fear among many conspiracy theorists, who believe that governments are planning to disarm citizens as a precursor to totalitarian control. **Symbs: NRA/Naacp/ Bmw/7-11Adl/Cbn; Spiral/e/9..(*Takis["Tex/Dak); key/cornr..stone/gems; tower/clock/bell; rainbo/ arch/gate; lion; heart; wing-horn'd objs; *Pillar/*arro/wand/sw'd/tree..(Amazon); blu +/..(Ritz/Byu/ Bk/Ford); color'd mark [Kashi/Aim).

This is another extensive list of symbols and organizations, interpreted as covert signs: NRA/Naacp/Bmw/7-11Adl/Cbn: Again, a mix of organizations from different sectors (gun rights, civil rights, automotive, convenience stores, and presumably "Anti-Defamation League" (Adl) and "Christian Broadcasting Network" (Cbn)). The inclusion of organizations with opposing goals further highlights the lack of logical coherence, implying they are all part of the same grand scheme. *Spiral/e/9..(Takis["Tex/Dak): Spirals have esoteric meanings in some traditions. "E/9" could be a numerical code or a specific symbol. "Takis" (a snack food) and "Tex/Dak" (Texas/Dakota?) are, again, random insertions. key/cornr..stone/gems; tower/clock/bell: Symbols often associated with Freemasonry (keystone, cornerstone), architecture, and time/structure. **rainbo/arch/gate; lion; heart; wing-horn'd objs; *Pillar/arro/wand/sw'd/tree..(Amazon): These are all archetypal symbols that appear in various cultures, mythologies, and religious texts. In a conspiratorial context, they are often seen as universal occult symbols used by the "elite." Rainbow: Has diverse meanings, but in some theories, it's co-opted or given negative connotations (e.g., related to Noah's Ark, covenant, or even LGBTQ+ movements which some conspiracy theorists view negatively). Lion, Heart, Winged/Horned figures: Common mythological creatures or attributes, again interpreted as having hidden meanings tied to power or supernatural entities. Pillar, Arrow, Wand, Sword, Tree: Common magical/esoteric tools or archetypes. "Amazon" (the company) is thrown in, possibly referencing their vast reach. *blu +/..(Ritz/Byu/Bk/Ford); color'd mark [Kashi/Aim). Blue is often associated with royalty, authority, or specific secret societies (e.g., "Blue Lodge" Freemasonry). The brands (Ritz, Byu, Bk, Ford) are again randomly included, likely based on their logos, colors, or perceived influence. "Kashi" (food brand) and "Aim" (a gun sight or acronym) are another nonsensical pairing. Sign'g uses: freq point'g/dbl "/thum up/touch'g(rg/lip) pinch'g (fngr)\wink'g|rais'g..; HAND fwd/fist(SOC.'M)/horns/ok..Opra'/Musk/Gop-Dem leadrs/locals SIGN.

This section details a belief in hidden communication through hand gestures and body language, a common theme in conspiracy theories that allege powerful figures secretly signal their allegiance or plans to each other. freq point'g/dbl "/thum up/touch'g(rg/lip) pinch'g (fngr)\wink'g|rais'g..: Specific hand movements or facial expressions are interpreted as covert signals. HAND fwd/fist(SOC.'M)/horns/ok..: The "horn" gesture (similar to the "devil horns" or "Mano Cornuta") is often falsely interpreted as a sign of Satanic allegiance or allegiance to secret societies, even when used innocently. The "OK" sign is also frequently misrepresented as an Illuminati/white power symbol in some fringe theories. Opra'/Musk/Gop-Dem leadrs/locals SIGN: The belief is that prominent figures across media (Oprah), technology (Musk), and politics (Republican/Democrat leaders, local officials) are all "in on it" and use these signals to communicate. This underlines the belief that the conspiracy spans all sectors of society. **Symbs: geom/flower/star/Ems/spin'g symbs (Bp/W-M/Nato/UK/wheel); shell; *energy symbs (ivy/ UN's grid/wb/8/maze[mex); lamp/lant'n; cascade; B/b'rfly; snake/S/tongue out (DaSani [can).

More symbolic interpretation: geom/flower/star/Ems/spin'g symbs (Bp/W-M/Nato/UK/wheel): Geometric patterns, flowers, stars, and spinning symbols are all common motifs with esoteric interpretations. "Bp" (British Petroleum), "W-M" (Walmart?), "Nato," and "UK" are again mixed in, implying these entities use such symbols. The "wheel" could refer to a Wheel of Fortune, a chakra, or a symbol of cyclical control. **shell; energy symbs (ivy/UN's grid/wb/8/maze[mex): Shells have various symbolic meanings (e.g., birth, protection). "Energy symbs" could refer to ancient energy systems or modern energy grids. "Ivy" is associated with growth and endurance, but also with Ivy League universities (elite). "UN's grid" points to fears of global governance and control of resources/infrastructure. "Maze" is a symbol of complexity or being trapped. lamp/lant'n; cascade; B/b'rfly; snake/S/tongue out (DaSani [can): Lamps/lanterns (light, knowledge, hidden knowledge). Butterflies are symbols of transformation, but in some theories (e.g., Monarch mind control), they are sinister. Snakes (wisdom, temptation, evil). "DaSani" (a water brand) and "*can" (Canada?) are, once again, nonsensical intrusions. **Sat= *ZION/Zen/Ari-Zona..& En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elohim); torch/Ltn'g; gavel; tilt'd/altr'd +/..(Y!/Chevy/Jello/dif. len'th-brokn..rays); lite/sp'rk w/ cr/rg/mt/dots..(Dole/Post).

**Sat= ZION/Zen/Ari-Zona..& En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elohim): This attempts to tie Saturn to various, unrelated concepts and religious/ethnic terms, creating a highly muddled and often offensive connection: ZION: A biblical term for Jerusalem, but also co-opted in antisemitic conspiracy theories to refer to a supposed global Jewish conspiracy. Zen: A Buddhist school, completely unrelated to the preceding terms. Ari-Zona: Likely refers to the state of Arizona, which has a long history of specific conspiracy theories (e.g., alien bases, secret underground facilities, government experiments). En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elo*him): This is a particularly disturbing and incoherent blend. "Aryan" refers to a controversial concept of a master race, often used in white supremacist ideologies. Attempting to link "Aryan" to "Allah" (Arabic for God) and "Elohim" (Hebrew for God/gods) shows a highly confused attempt to find a common, ancient root to perceived divine or controlling powers, potentially suggesting that different religions are facets of a single, ancient deception or power structure. torch/Ltn'g; gavel; tilt'd/altr'd +/..(Y!/Chevy/Jello/dif. len'th-brokn..rays); lite/sp'rk w/ cr/rg/mt/dots..(Dole/Post). Torch/Lightning: Symbols of illumination, knowledge, or destruction. The Statue of Liberty holds a torch, which is sometimes analyzed in conspiracy theories. Gavel: Symbol of authority, law, and judgment. "tilt'd/altr'd": Implies something is askew, not as it seems, or deliberately manipulated. The rest are simply more random corporate brand names and vague descriptions of light or geometric patterns, again trying to find a hidden meaning where none exists. Yale's SKULL-BONES (Ger. frat); open book.. Watch: They Live/Dark City. Our # 1 enemies r domestic.

Yale's SKULL-BONES (Ger. frat): Skull and Bones is a well-known secret society at Yale University. In conspiracy theories, it's often portrayed as an elite, secretive fraternity that trains future leaders to serve the New World Order agenda. The "Ger. frat" (German fraternity) might link it to alleged Nazi or Prussian influences. open book: Could symbolize knowledge, truth, or the idea that something is "written in the stars" or preordained. Watch: They Live/Dark City: These are critically important references for understanding the writer's mindset. They Live (1988 film): A sci-fi horror film where a drifter discovers special sunglasses that reveal subliminal messages of consumerism and obedience, and that the ruling class are actually aliens. It's highly influential in conspiracy circles as an allegory for how people are unknowingly controlled by hidden forces and propaganda. Dark City (1998 film): A neo-noir sci-fi film where a man wakes up with amnesia in a city where the sun never shines and the inhabitants' memories and physical realities are manipulated nightly by a group of alien beings. This film also resonates with conspiracy themes of manipulation of reality, hidden architects, and lack of true freedom. The instruction "Watch" indicates that the writer believes these films are not merely fiction but contain profound truths or allegories about the nature of their perceived reality. Our # 1 enemies r domestic: This is a core tenet of many contemporary conspiracy theories. It suggests that the primary threat comes not from external nations, but from internal forces within one's own country – often the government, powerful elites, "deep state," or specific groups believed to be undermining the nation from within. This reflects a deep distrust of authority and established institutions. Conclusion of Full Depth Analysis:

This document is a highly fragmented, disorganized, and deeply paranoid screed. It exhibits severe delusional thought processes characterized by:

Apophenia: The tendency to see meaningful connections between unrelated things (e.g., Nabisco and Hamas, NFL and the Grail). Referential Delusions: The belief that ordinary events, objects, or behaviors of others have specific and unusual meanings directed at oneself (e.g., specific company logos or hand gestures being part of a secret code). Grandiose and Persecutory Themes: The belief that a vast, ancient, and powerful conspiracy controls all aspects of life, from global politics to personal finance and even human identity, and that the writer possesses special knowledge to "decode" this reality. Conflation of Disparate Concepts: The mixing of legitimate historical symbols (swastika, KKK cross) with corporate logos, religious terms, mythological figures, and fictional elements into an incomprehensible whole. Perceived Loss of Autonomy: A strong sense that individuals are being "conditioned," "controlled," and "destabilized" by these hidden forces. While it's possible to identify numerous well-known conspiracy theories referenced (New World Order, secret societies, ancient aliens, government surveillance, pedophile rings, gun control fears), the way they are woven together suggests a highly individualized and deeply disordered belief system rather than a coherent narrative within any established conspiratorial framework. The author is attempting to create a unified theory from disparate, often contradictory, information.

The mention of specific films like They Live and Dark City provides insight into the author's perceived reality – that they are living in a manipulated world, and these films are allegories for the "truth." The final statement, "Our # 1 enemies r domestic," encapsulates a common paranoid theme that the greatest threats come from within one's own society.

In summary, this document is less a "conspiracy post" in the typical sense and more a window into a mind deeply entrenched in a personal, expansive, and highly disorganized delusional system.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then I'm there.. no no.. do a full depth analysis of everything that was written in it. It's 22184 characters so part 1 of 2.


As you've noted, the text presents a complex and fragmented collection of ideas that touch upon numerous conspiracy theories. A "full depth analysis" means breaking down each identifiable element and explaining its common interpretation within conspiracy circles, while acknowledging the highly disorganized and likely delusional nature of the original document.

Here's a detailed analysis, element by element:

CHAOS/RIOTS/terror'm r tied to secret soc: JFK warn'd of SS.

CHAOS/RIOTS/terror'm: This immediately sets a tone of perceived societal breakdown and instability, which is a common premise in many conspiracy theories. These events are often portrayed not as organic occurrences, but as orchestrated by powerful, hidden groups. secret soc: "Secret societies" are a foundational element of many conspiracy theories. Groups like the Illuminati, Freemasons, or even lesser-known alleged cabals are believed to exert hidden control over world affairs, often through ancient rituals, occult knowledge, or immense wealth. JFK warn'd of SS: This refers to the persistent conspiracy theory that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated because he was attempting to expose or dismantle powerful secret societies. A frequently cited (and often misquoted or misinterpreted) speech by JFK in April 1961 about "secret societies" and "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy" is used as "evidence" for this claim. The "SS" here could refer to "Secret Societies" or, given later context, potentially a veiled reference to the Schutzstaffel (Nazi SS), implying a deep-seated historical conspiracy. *A sign/symb/word sys unites SS.

This suggests a belief that these secret societies communicate and operate through a hidden system of signs, symbols, and code words, which are supposedly embedded in plain sight. This idea fuels the "decoding" aspect common in conspiracy research. It's tied to Saturn, Lord o/t Rings/time: Audi rgs; NBC/DEA's BIRD; Pyra'd/A..($/Citgo); cross (+) w/ rg/fire (KKK); NSA/UPS/Harv'd's SHIELD; lines/bars.. (Fox/Cdc); eye/1/2 face/Target; Islam/EURO/ China/Pfizer's cres.(cr) &/or star; cube (DoED).**

  • Saturn, Lord o/t Rings/time: In some esoteric and occult-tinged conspiracy theories, Saturn is imbued with profound symbolic meaning. It's often associated with:
  • Control and Limitation: Saturn is the planet of discipline, structure, and boundaries, which some interpret as a symbol of cosmic control or imprisonment.
  • Ancient Deities/Cults: Some theories link Saturn to ancient gods like Cronus (Greek) or El (Canaanite), who are then connected to modern-day "elite" bloodlines or secret societies.
  • Time: Saturn's association with time (e.g., Father Time) is seen as a metaphor for control over human destiny or historical progression.
  • "Lord of the Rings": This is a highly unusual and likely idiosyncratic connection. It could imply that J.R.R. Tolkien's fictional work is seen as an allegory or a veiled prophecy related to the "Saturnian" forces, or simply an attempt to draw a grand, mythological parallel to the perceived power of Saturn.
  • Symbolic Logos/Imagery: This long list points to a common conspiratorial practice of analyzing corporate and organizational logos for hidden symbols. The underlying belief is that these symbols are not arbitrary but are intentionally placed by powerful groups to signify their allegiance, power, or occult knowledge.
  • Audi rgs (rings): Interpreted as a hidden reference to Saturn's rings or another symbolic circle.
  • NBC/DEA's BIRD: Seen as a symbol of control or surveillance (e.g., the "all-seeing eye" motif often associated with birds of prey like eagles).
  • **Pyra'd/A..($/Citgo): The pyramid and eye (like on the U.S. dollar bill) are quintessential Illuminati/Masonic symbols in conspiracy lore. The "A" and "$" might link to financial control.
  • cross (+) w/ rg/fire (KKK): Explicitly identifies the Ku Klux Klan and its use of the burning cross as a symbol of racial terror and white supremacy. Its inclusion suggests a belief in a deeply entrenched, historically rooted network of power.
  • NSA/UPS/Harv'd's SHIELD: Shields are symbols of protection and authority. In a conspiratorial context, they might represent the power and influence of these organizations, often linked to intelligence agencies (NSA), logistics/control (UPS), or elite intellectual influence (Harvard).
  • lines/bars.. (Fox/Cdc): Generic shapes, but in conspiracy theories, even simple lines or bars can be interpreted as grids of control, prison bars, or other restrictive structures. Fox (media) and CDC (public health) are common targets of mistrust in various narratives.
  • *eye/1/2 face/Target: The "all-seeing eye" is a cornerstone of Illuminati/Masonic conspiracy theories, representing surveillance and hidden knowledge. The "1/2 face" might refer to veiled symbols or incomplete representations, hinting at hidden aspects. "Target" (the retail company) is often scrutinized for its logo.
  • Is*lam/EURO/China/Pfizer's cres.(cr) &/or star: The crescent moon and star are Islamic symbols. Their inclusion alongside "EURO," "China," and "Pfizer" suggests a belief in a globalist agenda that attempts to merge or control different cultural, economic, and medical spheres. This hints at Islamophobia and distrust of global powers and pharmaceutical companies.
  • cube (DoED): The cube is another symbol with occult significance in some conspiracy theories, often linked to Saturn (as a 3D representation) or specific religious/esoteric traditions. "DoED" likely refers to the Department of Education, implying a connection between education systems and this hidden symbolic structure.

SS/thr agents-fams create div'n/confus'n, cond'n'g us 2b control'd.

This is a core tenet of many conspiracy theories: the idea that a hidden elite deliberately creates social division (political, racial, religious) and confusion to prevent the general populace from uniting and resisting their control. "Cond'n'g" implies conditioning or manipulation through propaganda. Tip-offs: Nwo-NEW era/age..; change; identity.

Nwo-NEW era/age (New World Order): The central overarching conspiracy theory. It posits a secret, globalist cabal planning to establish a totalitarian global government. The "new era/age" suggests a deliberate transition orchestrated by these forces. change; identity: These are often presented as "social engineering" tools used by the New World Order to disrupt traditional societal structures and individual autonomy, making people more susceptible to control. **SS/rels merge: VAT/EU/ Mafia/FBI's rg of stars-dots/rg kis'g; cup/bwl (grail/Nfl); 4c/*Nazis' black sun; red/oran..+/cr.. (Crest/ Gulf/Mobl); swastika/beads (*Hindu[han)/Islam); Malta +/dbl +X-X'd objs (Nabisco/Hamas).

"SS/rels merge": This suggests the belief that various powerful entities and criminal organizations are secretly interconnected and working towards the same goal. VAT/EU/Mafia/FBI: This is a chaotic mix, implying a grand conspiracy involving taxation (VAT), supranational governance (EU), organized crime (Mafia), and even law enforcement agencies (FBI). The idea is that these seemingly disparate entities are unified at a higher level. stars-dots/rg kis'g: Unclear, but could refer to specific symbolic patterns or rituals. "Rg kis'g" might be "ring kissing," implying submission or allegiance. cup/bwl (grail/Nfl): The "Grail" refers to the Holy Grail, a legendary artifact with deep mystical significance, sometimes associated with hidden bloodlines or ancient secrets in conspiracy lore. "Nfl" is likely the National Football League, an absurd juxtaposition that again speaks to the disorganized thought. **4c/*Nazis' black sun; red/oran..+/cr.. (Crest/Gulf/Mobl); swastika/beads (*Hindu[han)/Islam); Malta +/dbl +X-X'd objs (Nabisco/Hamas). This is a deeply disturbing and revealing section: Nazis' black sun: The "Black Sun" (Schwarze Sonne) is a symbol used by neo-Nazis and occultists, often linked to esoteric Nazism, the Thule Society, and alleged secret Nazi bases or advanced technology. Its inclusion highlights elements of fascist or white supremacist conspiracy thinking. Red/oran..+/cr.. (Crest/Gulf/Mobl): Colors are often given symbolic meaning in conspiracy theories (e.g., bloodlines, political affiliations). The corporate brands here are, again, randomly inserted, possibly due to their colors or logos. **Swastika/beads (Hindu[han)/Islam): This is a particularly confused and potentially offensive connection. The swastika is an ancient symbol used in various cultures, including Hinduism (where it's a symbol of good fortune), before being co-opted by the Nazis. The writer attempts to link it to Hinduism, Islam, and "beads" (perhaps rosaries or prayer beads), possibly trying to argue for a shared, underlying symbolic system manipulated by conspirators, or to suggest that seemingly disparate religions are part of the same control structure. The juxtaposition with the Nazi swastika is highly problematic. *Malta +/dbl +X-X'd objs (Nabisco/Hamas): The Maltese Cross is associated with the Knights of Malta, an ancient order sometimes implicated in secret society theories. The "X" shapes are often interpreted as cryptic symbols. The inclusion of Nabisco (a food company) and Hamas (a Palestinian militant group) in the same breath is illogical and typical of highly disorganized thought. **SS/royalty front 4 a tiny/oldr race call'd Drag'n Kings. DK's long skulls-eyes/archit..were fnd in Peru/ Turkey/Easter Is..

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was searching reddit conspiracy for "saturn". See this post.

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/17pg5kb/found_this_creepy_paper_in_abandoned_anf/

"Found this creepy paper in abandoned ANF campground with cryptic text about Saturn being Lord of the Rings and other symbolism related to conspiracy theories. It was wrapped in plastic and pinned to the bottoms of a picnic table. Seeking information on what it means."

I'm there.. what's ANF.

Ran the image through image to text. Here you go.. this crap in text format. I'll run that through google gemini AI. Should be a good one. It'll get all confused. The guy abbreviates stuff too.


CHAOS/RIOTS/terror'm r tied to secret soc: JFK warn'd of SS. A sign/symb/*word sys unites SS. It's tied to Saturn, Lord o/t Rings/time: Audi rgs; NBC/DEA's BIRD; Pyra'd/A..($/Citgo); cross (+) w/ rg/fire (KKK); NSA/UPS/Harv'd's SHIELD; lines/bars.. (Fox/Cdc); eye/1/2 face/Target; Islam/ EURO/ China/Pfizer's cres.(cr) &/or star; cube (DoED). SS/thr agents-fams create div'n/confus'n, cond'n'g us 2b control'd. Tip-offs: Nwo-NEW era/age..; change; identity. SS/rels merge: VAT/EU/ Mafia/FBI's rg of stars-dots/rg kis'g; cup/bwl (grail/Nfl); 4c/*Nazis' black sun; red/oran..+/cr.. (Crest/ Gulf/Mobl); swastika/beads (*Hindu[*han)/Islam); Malta +/dbl +X-X'd objs (Nabisco/*Hamas). SS/ royalty front 4 a tiny/oldr race call'd Drag'n Kings. DK's long skulls-eyes/archit..were fnd in *Peru/ *Turkey/Easter Is.. DK's agenda: surveill'ce state/track'd travel-'money'... *CASTE sys (*Caesar/ Gaza); *elite's pedophilia; destabiliz'n (immigr'n/shoot'gs/war); gun confis'n. Symbs: NRA/Naacp/ Bmw/7-11Adl/Cbn; Spiral/e/9..(*Takis["Tex/Dak); key/cornr..stone/gems; tower/clock/bell; rainbo/ arch/gate; lion; heart; wing-horn'd objs; *Pillar/*arro/wand/sw'd/tree..(*Amazon); blu +/..(Ritz/Byu/ Bk/Ford); color'd mark [*Kashi/Aim). Sign'g uses: freq point'g/dbl "/thum up/touch'g(rg/lip) pinch'g (fngr)\wink'g|rais'g..; HAND fwd/fist(SOC.'M)/horns/ok..Opra'/Musk/Gop-Dem leadrs/locals SIGN. Symbs: geom/flower/star/Ems/spin'g symbs (Bp/W-M/Nato/UK/wheel); shell; *energy symbs (ivy/ UN's grid/wb/8/*maze[mex); lamp/lant'n; cascade; B/b'rfly; snake/S/tongue out (DaSani [*can); Sat= *ZION/Zen/*Ari-Zona..& En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elohim); *torch/Ltn'g; gavel; tilt'd/altr'd +/..(Y!/Chevy/Jello/dif. len'th-brokn..rays); lite/sp'rk w/ cr/rg/mt/dots..(Dole/Post); Yale's SKULL-BONES (Ger. frat); open book.. Watch: They Live/Dark City. Our # 1 enemies r domestic.


ok let's see what gemini says about this. lol. "nutter".

Yeah.. see.. it's detecting that the guy is "incoherent" and delusional. lol.


The text you've provided appears to be a fragmented and highly disordered collection of references to various conspiracy theories, symbols, and organizations. It jumps between different concepts without clear transitions or logical connections, making it very difficult to interpret as a coherent narrative.

Here's a breakdown of some of the elements mentioned and their typical associations within conspiracy theory circles, along with what little sense can be made of the connections the text attempts to draw:

"Saturn, Lord o/t Rings/time": In some esoteric and fringe conspiracy theories, Saturn is associated with ancient deities, control, time, and even malevolent forces. The "Lord of the Rings" reference likely attempts to link the fictional work to these perceived symbolic meanings of Saturn, or perhaps to a more literal "lord" figure within these theories. Secret Societies (SS): The text mentions "secret soc" and "JFK warn'd of SS." This likely refers to the numerous conspiracy theories surrounding secret societies like the Illuminati, Freemasons, or even groups like "Skull and Bones" (mentioned at the end) which are believed to secretly control world events. The JFK reference ties into the well-known conspiracy theories surrounding his assassination and alleged warnings about powerful, hidden groups. Symbols and Logos: A significant portion of the text lists various company logos, symbols, and imagery: Audi rings, NBC/DEA's BIRD, Pyra'd/A..($/Citgo), cross (+) w/ rg/fire (KKK), NSA/UPS/Harv'd's SHIELD, lines/bars.. (Fox/Cdc), eye/1/2 face/Target, Islam/EURO/China/Pfizer's cres.(cr) &/or star, cube (DoED). These are often interpreted by conspiracy theorists as hidden signs or "masonic" symbols embedded in corporate or government logos, believed to signify their true allegiances or involvement in a larger conspiracy. The KKK reference is a direct acknowledgment of their racist symbolism. **Swastika, Malta +/dbl +X-X'd objs (Nabisco/*Hamas), geom/flower/star/Ems/spin'g symbs (Bp/W-M/Nato/UK/wheel); shell; *energy symbs (ivy/UN's grid/wb/8/maze[mex); lamp/lant'n; cascade; B/b'rfly; snake/S/tongue out (DaSani [can). This continues the theme of finding hidden meanings in common symbols, connecting them to various groups, religions, or even corporate entities. The inclusion of "Hamas" alongside Nabisco is a jarring and illogical juxtaposition that highlights the disorganized nature of the text. "Nwo-NEW era/age" (New World Order): This is a very common overarching conspiracy theory that posits a secret cabal of powerful elites is planning to establish a totalitarian global government. "SS/thr agents-fams create div'n/confus'n, cond'n'g us 2b control'd." This suggests a belief that these "secret societies" or agents actively sow discord and confusion to maintain control over the populace. **"DK's long skulls-eyes/archit..were fnd in Peru/ Turkey/Easter Is.." (Dragon Kings?): This is highly speculative. "Dragon Kings" isn't a widely recognized conspiracy term. The mention of long skulls in Peru and Turkey might be a distorted reference to theories about ancient alien civilizations or a pre-human race, often linked to unexplained archaeological findings. **"DK's agenda: surveill'ce state/track'd travel-'money'... *CASTE sys (Caesar/ Gaza); elite's pedophilia; destabiliz'n (immigr'n/shoot'gs/war); gun confis'n." This section outlines common grievances and fears within conspiracy communities: Surveillance state/tracked travel-money: Concerns about government overreach, privacy erosion, and financial control. *"Caste sys (Caesar/Gaza)": A highly fragmented and unclear reference, but likely alludes to hierarchical systems of control or oppression, perhaps drawing parallels to ancient Roman power structures or even contemporary conflicts. "Elite's pedophilia": A disturbing and frequently unfounded accusation made in many contemporary conspiracy theories (e.g., QAnon). "Destabiliz'n (immigr'n/shoot'gs/war); gun confis'n": Common themes of perceived societal breakdown, often attributed to shadowy forces, and anxieties about government control over firearms. "Sign'g uses: freq point'g/dbl "/thum up/touch'g(rg/lip) pinch'g (fngr)\wink'g|rais'g..; HAND fwd/fist(SOC.'M)/horns/ok..Opra'/Musk/Gop-Dem leadrs/locals SIGN." This describes a belief that powerful individuals (Oprah, Musk, political leaders) communicate through hidden hand gestures or signals, often interpreted as allegiance to secret societies or a shared agenda. **"Sat= *ZION/Zen/Ari-Zona..& En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elohim); torch/Ltn'g; gavel; tilt'd/altr'd +/..(Y!/Chevy/Jello/dif. len'th-brokn..rays); lite/sp'rk w/ cr/rg/mt/dots..(Dole/Post)." This is a particularly jumbled section: **"Sat= ZION/Zen/Ari-Zona..& En/Ani (AryAn); Ary/Ali- 'high' (Al-lah/Elohim)": This attempts to link Saturn to concepts of "Zion" (a biblical term often co-opted in antisemitic conspiracy theories), "Zen," and "Arizona" (perhaps referring to specific conspiracy theories related to the American Southwest). The "Aryan" and "Allah/Elohim" references seem to be an attempt to connect various religious and historical terms, possibly implying a common, ancient root to perceived controlling forces. The rest are simply more disparate words and company names thrown together, likely in an attempt to find or create connections that aren't there. "Yale's SKULL-BONES (Ger. frat); open book.. Watch: They Live/Dark City. Our # 1 enemies r domestic." Skull and Bones: A well-known secret society at Yale University, frequently cited in conspiracy theories as a training ground for future leaders who will then serve the "New World Order" agenda. "They Live/Dark City": These are science fiction films that deal with themes of hidden control, manipulation, and a population unknowingly living under a false reality. Their inclusion suggests a belief that these films are either thinly veiled truths or allegories for the real world. "Our # 1 enemies r domestic": This is a common sentiment in many conspiracy theories, suggesting that the biggest threats come from within a country's own government or influential groups, rather than external enemies. Overall Interpretation:

The text is a strong example of apophenia, the tendency to perceive meaningful connections among unrelated phenomena. The individual who wrote this appears to be suffering from severe delusional ideation, where they are connecting disparate pieces of information, symbols, and public figures into a highly personalized and intricate "web" of conspiracy. This type of writing is often seen in individuals experiencing disorganized thought patterns, which can be a symptom of various mental health conditions.

It's highly unlikely that this text has a coherent, hidden meaning that can be "decoded" in a rational way, beyond identifying the numerous conspiracy theories it references. The disjointed nature and rapid-fire association of unrelated concepts are characteristic of a mind struggling to differentiate between reality and imagined connections.


lol.. even the google gemini AI is getting confused by this nut. lol

And then he's underlining stuff too, eh.. might be something there if you piece those together, but I doubt it. That's not in the text version.. you'd have to look at the image. hmm.. I just asked it to get the underlined letters and it can't handle it. Let's manually do that for the first bit.

Sat Pyr Tar cres star fams confus'n control'd

I don't think you got anything there.. ok I gotta go.. you guys figure this out. lol

He's also putting a lot of * in the stuff too.. what do those mean.

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe that's where they taught him the black magic. Like what goes on with those magicians these days. You see them do the stuff he did, like walking on water. Somebody else is doing stuff with bread, water, wine, fish. Have you watched these.

“Magicians” Prove A Spiritual World Exists - Demonic Activity Caught On Video - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKrFeX8dRY

“Magicians” Prove A Spiritual World Exists (2020 Edition) - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIOnsE3TWWE

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newfunturistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Searching reddit conspiracy for that..

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=+Bermuda+Triangle&restrict_sr=on

Seems like it "stopped". Around what year. In the 1980's you'd hear about aliens and abductions. That also calmed down.

You had credible stuff though like military planes getting lost. Let me look into this. I think things got messed up when they did the Philadelphia experiment. And it's like some kind of natural area.

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