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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Earth not flat.

So you keep incessantly, and inanely, repeating - but you were supposed to be finding an example of something I said, which was a lie. I'll wait, while you utterly fail ... again.

No crimes can be committed against a bot.

On this, we agree.

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jack445566778899 -1 points ago +1 / -2

You posted lies

Yet you can't name a single one of them....

Curious. Almost like you can't read; a necessary prerequisite for potentially understanding and then formulating a cogent response.

Your canned responses are boring :(

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

refuses to publicly state otherwise

Again, you would have to be able to read in order to know what i publicly state. I have, of course, stated to you in the past - but you don't have much memory :(

No one will ever believe you.

And the penny drops. You care about (and are consumed by) belief, not truth. Personally, i don't want them to believe at all! Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and across purposes to objective study of any kind.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have no idea what i am or am not. You'd have to actually read and understand what i say, and then earnestly respond to/question it in order to do that.

Instead you stick your fingers in your ears (assuming you have them at all) and scream like a child, hurling vapid insult.

Unlike you, i care deeply about truth and the exploration and understanding of the world around us. I don't have your blind unwavering faith in lieu of it. A warm blanket that keeps you ignorant and blind.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don’t care.

You've made it very clear that you don't care about the truth. You don't need to keep repeating yourself. It's boring.

violating every goddamned rule

You haven't actually read the rules, huh. Color me unsurprised.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Do, though.

Then why do you utterly fail to mention them while mindlessly hurling vapid insult instead? This is a rhetorical question; please answer it for and to yourself.

No crimes can be committed against a bot.

Bot or not, i am a member of the community here and the rules apply to us both regardless of which one of us is a simple and boring program. Risk ban at your own peril by continuing to ignore the rules here.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

And yet, nobody ever has a good answer for why the constellations are different in the North and South

Answers are easy. That's the purpose of virtually all mythology. What matters is if the answer is correct! There are answers available while assuming a flat earth worldview - however, it doesn't change the fact that attempting to determine the shape of what you are standing on by studying the complete opposite direction of it is both unscientific and incredibly stupid. You don't determine the shape of the floor by studying the ceiling...

why we don't have a picture of the edge.

Perhaps because no one has reached it. Perhaps because there is no edge to reach! In any case, we have pictures of the loch ness monster and ghosts...

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yep, repeatedly proven tens of millions of times.

Except you have no idea who, when, or how. Just like essentially everyone else! You incorrectly think it was eratosthenes, a man who never once set out to determine the shape of the world - let alone prove it!

You can personally prove it with your own eyes.

So then you are saying the world is flat, because that is how it OBVIOUSLY appears to anyone with working eyes? Strange 180, but fair enough.

Many times what we see with our eyes is NOT what truly is. You'd know that already if you were also a fan of magic.

Preferably in that lake.

Encouraging people to kill themselves is against c/conspiracies rules. Try to behave yourself if you are at all capable of doing so.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

If it was real, you could prove it

And likewise with globe earth. In general, all anyone has - including you - is abject appeal to authority in lieu of proof. "Muh moon landing" and the like.

There are many "proofs" available - no matter what shape you think the earth is - but most people don't know them. Like you, they erroneously point to eratosthenes (and columbus) - neither of which ever proved or sought to prove anything about the shape of the earth.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +2 / -2

Because it assumes the sun is very far away

Worse than that! It assumes (and requires, for the calculation to provide meaningful output) that the earth is a sphere to begin with!

It is often misrepresented as a "proof the world is spherical", but how could you ever prove the world was spherical by merely assuming it was true? Eratosthenes was raised to believe the world was spherical from childhood, just like us today. He never doubted it or sought to prove it in any way.

Actually, there are MANY reasons the eratosthenes "experiment" is not an experiment.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Earth not flat.

If it were, you would choose death over learning the truth - which is sad.

No one faults you for reflexively spamming the same copypasta nonsense over and over again. Or being unable to have rational conversations about any of the "questions" on your gish gallop. We understand. You just can't change your programming :(

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jack445566778899 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's a good episode, and well worth a watch regardless of your opinion on the moon landing.

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jack445566778899 2 points ago +5 / -3

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME ... you spam the same copypasta nonsense

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jack445566778899 2 points ago +5 / -3

I'm intrigued by the documentary... Do you know its name?

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would you like it?

Two reasons. 1: they have one of the better wikis available and 2: the forums are reasonably run/administrated.

A pancake planet accelerating upward is literally put there to make people believe that that anyone who questions the globe must believe this stupid shit.

That is certainly true. However, in my view - this mathematically sound inversion of the standard view/equations only further makes plain how stupid and unscientific the original presumptive view is. I see it as something done "tongue in cheek" - although that may not be the creators intention.

It is certainly stupid and unscientific to assume there is a limitless energy source causing eternal acceleration of all things upwards - but it is equally stupid and unscientific to assume there is a limitless energy source causing eternal acceleration downwards for the exact same reasons.

Sorry, but, siding with FES is literally playing with the CIA.

Alas, i think it may come with the territory :(

I wouldn't say that i "side" with the fes, but that they - honeypot/limited hangout or not - have a valid resource for interested researchers to peruse. As always, it is up to the student (us!) to rigorously verify any and all claims/facts before accepting them as true.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

It could quite possibly be.

I like the fes site anyhow, and think it has one of the best wikis around on the subject. They do a better job than most, outlining the various views - many of which conflict.

The one promoted view there i get the greatest kick out of is the inversion of the standard, pervasive, gravitational belief. If you think about it, it makes the presumptive view all the more plainly silly, unscientific, and laughable when you consider belief in its inverse/corollary. (basically that gravitation is actually caused by constant and eternal acceleration upwards by all mass in the universe) I think it may be funnier if you enjoy physics.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

What does this even mean? FE just goes on forever?

Why not? Many educated think this about the universe itself, and it's thought perfectly rational.

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jack445566778899 2 points ago +2 / -0

Took me a little while to find this guy. He’s made some other good ones as well.

Looks like he finds people having a “hard time” and puts it in the appropriate constructive context - metal.

https://www.instagram.com/milkkomen/reel/DDzotGpP-9c/

He goes by Juan Valez, milkkomen, and metalkuku.

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jack445566778899 3 points ago +4 / -1

That was pretty badass.

I don’t get the sense that tallest knows/cares much about science, but I wonder where they stand on the “vax”.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you can't understand how mass and gravity work together to compress gasses

Lol. We still can’t understand any of it. We just take it on faith. Even with that faith, the compression force isn’t enough to make even a single star without yet further belief in “black holes” and other abstraction to further prop them up. Besides, the strength of gravity is nowhere near enough to compress gas against diffusion (entropy). This is trivially demonstrable down here at the surface where gravity is presumed strongest… The entire premise is moot if you understand it.

As I said, fiction is easy to understand - but demonstrating it in reality is quite another matter.

There is no demonstration possible of high pressure and low pressure coexisting for any significant amount of time. As I said, it violates the laws of physics and is trivially confirmable.

The belief that this happens “far far away” at the “edge of the sky” (because it MUST to prop up other beliefs) is just that - a belief with no scientific support whatsoever.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can’t rationally address any of my comment, and instead cry “retard” like a child to avoid admitting that - but sure, I’m the idiot.

Close your eyes, your ears, and keep crying. You’re sure to continue getting smarter that way…

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