Interesting comment from the atheist point of view, especially the historical “cross-pollinisation” you’ve identified, but I think most here have seen enough to know the world consists of more than the physical, and that the spiritual realm is real and impacts the physical.

This user is a known shill, please ignore unless he backs up his garbage with factual information

The issue isn’t the explosion it’s the presence of people who are either “surviving twins” of the “dead astronauts” or people with identical names who look identical. I’m not sure one way or the other the truth of the matter, but I know NASA lies about everything they do. No need to be so hostile, you can’t honestly think you have everything already figured out do you?

This is getting silly man. Unless he’s actually posting something super absurd/subversive, can we assume he’s just a person with strong opinions? I’ve seen him contribute to the discussion plenty of times (I’ve also seen him troll like a maniac, which is where I put the above comment of his)

To u/esuomyonana, I’m not convinced that “Christianity” (as it stands today, in the form of various Churches) is pure. To me, I can see trappings of a extremely intricate system of control. I also see plenty of “good” upon which the system of control was built. I think the gnostic strand of Christianity is what was actually practiced by Jesus and others who’ve incarnated the Christ(aka Buddha) Consciousness. Which would explain why the gnostics were utterly destroyed and covered up by the orthodoxies of the time.

IMO, if any writing had claim to be a Gospel that wasn’t chosen by the organizers of the Bible, it would be the following:

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

Not too long and I think it “fills in the gaps” left by the various consolidations of control the Church has gone through.

Those don’t really track in a 1:1 fashion. Is your reason for thinking this that somehow a flat earth proves the Bible “correct” which proves evolution “wrong”?

What part of this is so implausible it disproves anything other than the astronauts status as competent public speakers? If it’s the lack of delay at the between Nixon hearing the astronauts and then responding, that’s expected, since we are “listening” to the astronauts on Nixon’s end of the line.

Atleast he’s contributing to the discussion. Fuck off you myopic retard.

The phases of the moon aren’t the result of the earth blocking the light guy...

(((Maybe, just maybe, the topic is this post is related to your idle musings)))

In response to this, and your comment in the other thread including:

It is according to the laws of nature.

I would say, of all the strategies of existence, the first was the producer, who took the inanimate and made it animate through passing it through itself. The second strategy was the consumer, who preys on the producer. Further elaborations, such as subterfuge, camouflage, and other forms of {deception} seem less natural than the first two. Dunno how much this adds to the discussion but I thought it might do something, thanks for the kind words in other comments

If they can influence you, you can influence them.

I think one would have more success if they start with what is shared with others rather than perceived differences. For instance, for the most part we all love those who love us.

I welcome every single person you just described with open arms. However it is a known fact that there is a massive contingent of astroturfing done by people “trying to defend israel online, by any means necessary” including poisoning the well of sites that expose zionist crimes against humanity.

The answer is something akin to the tragedy of the commons, or game theory as summarized in the prisoner’s dilemma.

If every actor behaves as a parasite, the system collapses under its own lack of structure. This is why a virus requires a host to reproduce. Without a host, a virus is nothing. The parasite is the after thought of true life.

A short story titled p53 :

Thank you for making room in your life for another talking ball. Let me ask you a question.

In the three billion base pairs of your root species' genome, there is a single gene that codes for a protein called p53. The name is a mistake. The protein weighs only as much as 47,000 protons, not 53,000. If you were a cell, you would think p53 was a mistake too. It has several coercive functions: To delay the cell's growth. To sterilize the cell when it is old. And to force the cell into self-destruction if it becomes too independent.

Would you tolerate a bomb in your body, waiting to detonate if you deviated from the needs of society? However, without p53 as an enforcer, the body's utopian surplus of energy becomes a paradise for cancer. Cells cannot resist the temptation to steal from that surplus. Their genetic morality degrades as tumor suppressor genes fail. The only way to stop them is by punishment.

You now confront the basic problem of morality. It is the alignment of individual incentives with the global needs of the structure.

Patterns will participate in a structure only if participation benefits their ability to go on existing. The more successful the structure grows, the more temptation accrues to cheat. And the greater the advantage the cheaters gain over their honest neighbors. And the greater the ability they develop to capture the very laws that should prevent their selfishness. To prevent this, the structure must punish cheaters with a violence that grows in proportion to its own success.

My question follows.

Is p53 an agent of the Darkness, or the Light?

Good call, you never know which account his Bluetooth buttplug is set up to receive alerts from

Yes, to an extent, but I have similar problems with the actions of a wide array of (to varying degrees, related) groups, and their (to varying extents witting) actions.

The real issue is the vanishingly small portion of people who manipulate all these groups into acting against each other. Those who brought about Babel. That, and our own inadequacy in comprehending the reality of nature, resulting in our constant need to affix labels and brands to things which are naturally in opposition. In my estimation at least.

I have no problem with the group, as a group. My problem comes from the consequences of that group’s actions at the (un)witting behest of monsters.

Consumeproduct.win, I confirmed myself feel free to triple check

u/outro you never told me, how is the weather in Tel Aviv?

Damn, and I thought I was onto something with this post :/ lol

It’s a constant struggle between finding the words to best communicate my thoughts, what I perceive as the comments readability (I personally think I tend to overcomplicate statements (sometimes through things like nested parentheses)), and the desire to communicate and thus end the internal conflict, hit save, and begin the external conflict.

If you had to (for thought experiment purposes) describe your process of comprehension briefly, which words would you chose? Comprehension compiler? Motion mapper? What springs to mind as most accurate?

Oh hey, it’s that account i pointed out was likely a shill who then deleted his posts, back again to forum slide.

Never thought I’d see the day where I’d upvote a farkus post but here we are. This isn’t just 5D trolling right?

Sorry, I use quote marks for way more than actual quotes, but I was trying to express how I don’t really think there is “bulletproof” evidence, because if there were, it wouldn’t really be a debate any more.

But there literally is a way to account for it, he thinks you are the subhuman paid disinformation shill. Or specifically in this case he thinks ForThe is. And cole seems like a genuine user, even if we disagree on many topics. Just like you seem like a genuine user, just like (to a slightly lesser extent) ForThe seems like a genuine, if goofy, user

I’m not saying they faked it, they could have easily rounded up the distance across the lake and rounded down the height of their laser rig and “convinced” themselves while making their video. My entire point is that most people arent participating in this discussion out of bad faith, but there are groups trying to use this topic as a wedge issue between truth seekers. They don’t give a fuck which “side” you pick, because either way you’re still playing {their} game.