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forinfren 2 points ago +3 / -1

Says the guy going to a conspiracy sub to spew religious indignation at a freakin' holiday. Not exactly a standard for who's "defiling" what.

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forinfren 1 point ago +2 / -1

OP: "...there are ALL TYPES of cultish bull shit out there thinking to misdirect just to control."

Also OP: ""Choice" is not an option in a Creation ordained to FLOW to the TUNE of the Creator..."

Yeah, how about just letting people get a nice Sunday's rest and not telling them how to live their lives, okay? Not everyone needs to read from the same book, holy or otherwise. And never mind the Calvinist predestination crap that even most churches would rather avoid.

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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

Apparently it's from the show "60 минут" (literally the Russian "60 minutes"), aired on December 7 last year.

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forinfren 8 points ago +8 / -0

When your point is so weak, you need to post a picture of a tweet, rather than the tweet itself... because then everyone would see it's a news story from several months ago, reposted by a pro-MSM newsbot account. Zero points for effort here.

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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pictured: The face you make when a strategic opponent of your country practically demolishes the political power of your corporate sponsors by nullifying their copyright and patents, and setting a precedent for a few other countries to do the same - a couple of which having populations over a billion strong.

Remember how, just before the Ukraine crisis officially broke out, Putin pretty much said he'd go nuclear on anyone from NATO that interfered directly? Well, the suspension of foreign intellectual property rights is the nuclear option for businesses. And it's a painfully clear demonstration of what a major government can do to even the most powerful companies, especially the modern creatively sterile patent trolls, who kept expanding copyright well beyond its original purpose. So yeah, they're scared shitless right now, and the tune has changed rapidly... just not fast enough, I think.

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forinfren 2 points ago +2 / -0

Quite. Most people really can't imagine the power a national government has over corporate influence when it comes to copyright and patent laws. "Microsoft"? No, comrade, it's "Our-crosoft" now. Same goes for the chemical formulas and production methods for anything from Coca-Cola to Xanax, the fabrics for Adidas, the engine mechanics for luxury cars... It's practically open season on foreign IP right now.

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forinfren 1 point ago +2 / -1

They pride themselves in being able to suffer through shit. Like memoring text book passages

So, Eastern Europe it is, then. Only without the memorizing of anything from a textbook. Now, pop-folk starlets, soccer players, and moonshine recipes - that's practically genetic memory.

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forinfren 2 points ago +3 / -1

I'll have to consider that too. Officially, as of early February, Russia and China have a considerable gas agreement - meaning Russia has anticipated the western boycott and possibly plans to turn to China as a long-term trading partner. As for vice versa, I don't think the west has enough leverage on China as a manufactured goods exporter to try and force it to stop selling to Russia, even ostensibly western brands. Likewise, the other countries above are in a comfortable enough strategic position to continue doing business as usual with both Russia and China, without fearing any overt retaliation from the west.

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forinfren 1 point ago +2 / -1

Now you got me interested. Do you think this attitude is similar to the Finnish "sisu" or the Japanese "shikata ga nai" philosophies - so, more about stoic determination of sorts - or is it more like the jaded bitterness of Eastern Europe? I don't see many Chinese where I live, and most of them are China Mall employees who aren't too chatty to begin with, so I'm interested in getting a wider perspective.

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forinfren 2 points ago +3 / -1

Russia and China (and India, for that matter) already trade among themselves using their own national currencies and SWIFT-equivalent banking systems. Moreover, the western companies that dramatically clutched their pearls and proclaimed how they were leaving the Russian market, all have affiliates and production facilities in China, which are continuing shipments to Russia as usual. And on the flipside, China's gas demand keeps rising. The math is rather elegant - the Russians get all the manufactured goods they need, and the Chinese get all the energy and natural resources they need. And the west gets to watch.

Toss in India, Indonesia and Vietnam (which also either support Russia or maintain neutrality), and you get an economy comprising just about half of the world's population, in for the mother of all bull markets concerning everything from real estate to household electronics, and all without depending on the dollar as an exchange currency.

As for the ruble, the current freefall means the Russian government can buy up all the excess virtually for free, and since the EU shot itself in the foot with the sanctions, if it wants to continue buying Russian gas, it'll have to buy rubles first, with which to purchase it. For which it will use its precious metal reserves - another bull market opening right now.

All in all, I'm not sure if it'll be a Chinese century, but by the looks of it, it's definitely not gonna be western in any form or capacity.

by pkvi
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forinfren 2 points ago +3 / -1

It sounds even sillier when you couple it with the rest of the propaganda about how all the soldiers were confused, tired, scared, thinking they were on an exercise etc.

If anything, I'd say it's actually the Russians that produce false flag propaganda, aiming to get the western countries complacent about how they "weak" they are, and to get them to send otherwise useless weapons and equipment to Ukraine. The actual goal - quietly bite off Donetsk and Lugansk, while creating a Somalia-style situation in the eastern part of the country, so that the Ukrainian armed forces will be too busy fighting local marauders, and unable to retaliate.

To that effect, both sides are now also filling up the region with mercenaries, mostly of Middle-Eastern origin - people whose job will be to turn it into a permanent PVP zone, in turn preventing the goal of NATO - putting its nukes all over the place. In short, Russia takes Ukraine, NATO takes a walk.

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forinfren 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tell me you got banned from patriots.win, without telling me you got banned from patriots.win.

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forinfren 5 points ago +5 / -0

As far as option three goes, when Chernobyl blew up and tons of radioactive dust went up the sky, my country was downwind. So, been there, done that, can count all the Oscars of "Titanic" on one hand.

And I suspect the world will be returning to various precious metal standards now that the dollar is becoming defunct as a global reserve currency, so that's option one off the table as well.

Which leaves option two... and to be blunt, compared to the otherwise traditional regional causes like liver failure and heart disease (or getting stabbed over a fiver in a back alley), a nuke doesn't seem all that bad. Certainly won't ruin the local urban landscape any more than the 90s did.

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forinfren 0 points ago +1 / -1

Pretty much. That's the price of having an open registration policy and standing up for free speech. Though apparently he's quickly earned that reputation of overall unwholesomeness, which, fittingly, defuses his own point. Simply put, bullshit doesn't need to get banned in order to be seen as bullshit. It's truth and facts, however, that are frequently prohibited if they don't fit the party line, since their opponents have no legitimate way of countering them.

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forinfren 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aaaaand it's gone! See you in two more days... or weeks... or years, by the looks of it, so long as you voat hardur next time.

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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

Come now, what would be the odds of that? It's not like the country is run by a KGB spymaster with ties to global economic institutions, whose tenure as head of state was noted for his shrewd economic policies... oh, wait.

If anything, I'm more puzzled by the lower-scale operations of the conflict. To put it simply, nobody wages war like that. Nobody just dumps a bunch of equipment and vehicles, all of them evidently old and poorly maintained. My best guess is that they're trying to create a new Somalia in west Ukraine, that would serve as a buffer state between Russia and the EU/NATO, a veritable no-man's-land where anything goes.

And in turn, the EU is playing right into it (or secretly supporting it) by sending more weapons, specifically to be distributed to civilians. Again, nobody does that - nobody sends RPGs to conscripts and irregulars, since they're more likely to end up hurting themselves than the enemy. It's even more suspicious that a lot of these weapons have themselves turned out to be obsolete or barely functional models, adding more credence to the weapon dump theory above.

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forinfren 4 points ago +4 / -0

My take is that Russia deliberately got itself cut off from SWIFT and effectively detached its entire economy from the western world, in order to dodge yet another global financial crisis. Oh, and to eliminate the dollar as the global reserve currency, but that's more of a bonus.

Respectively, the current freefall of the ruble is also anticipated - at present, it would cost the Russian government no more than a pittance to buy up all the rubles available on the money market, so that when the EU demands that the gas and wheat shipments are resumed, it will have to buy rubles first, likely using its precious metal reserves rather than the dollar.

And of course, since China and India have their own banking systems using their own national currencies, they have so far been more than happy to voice neutrality or even tacit support for Russia, since they have a lot more to gain than lose from these developments.

Ultimately, we're due for an artificial Cold War, with the main purpose of keeping the major national economies separate and immune to further global financial crises. The side effect will be that the western economies, which are faster-paced but more unstable, may have to endure some controlled demolition, particularly in the banking and resource imports sectors. And globally, the WEF. Which, in turn, is a good reason why the heads of those entities, and their subservient media, are now waiving the Putin=Bad flag, since they have the most to lose from the situation.

by qbqb
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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

And then there's the black sheep of the family - begging.

When you're being conditioned by authority figures to always rely on the former, you'll easily be herded into only relying on the latter. Supplication is the virtue of beaten dogs and abused housewives.

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forinfren 0 points ago +1 / -1

Sometimes I wonder if it's not the other way around - that these grand theories about mass depopulation are a form of consensus cracking, meant to discredit legitimate criticism of corporate business practices. To put it in brief, company X has some shady dealings, mostly amounting to dodging taxes and cutting corners regarding quality, maybe doing some money-laundering on the side. Overall, nothing special.

However, in order to hide its activities even from nosy wannabe whistleblowers, the company also produces phantom documents and correspondence about some "great big plan" or other, and mixes them in with well-timed "leaks", so that if an otherwise mildly competent online search finds a thread to pull on, the "grand scheme" docs start spilling first. Only, they have no real trail within the company itself.

So when an accusation is leveled about said grand scheme, the company simply allows an inspection - that produces no evidence, because there simply isn't any - and the rest of the potential accusations are dismissed as part of the whole package - that is, a crappy attempt at slander by a malicious litigant. And the company walks away scot-free.

Substitute company for government, or NGO, and it's the exact same deal. It's gaslighting in its purest form, where people are intentionally made to chase paranoid delusions, instead of looking for practical goals and motives.

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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

You'll whine about it on social media and vandalize gas stations, scream at local retail workers, maybe do a couple of ineffectual protests or "rallies" for your favorite political talking head. After all, when you got your voting rights removed from you, that's all you did for the past two years. It took the freakin' Canadians to start a meaningful protest, so that you may copy their homework. Only it's so lame, even the non-mainstream media won't bother to cover it. And the virtually disarmed populace of Eastern Europe and West Asia has shown more of a backbone lately than Yanks ever will.

As for your children, the particular scenario will probably go like this: Mandatory social justice classes in schools, expanded boarding services, first for "disadvantaged" families, then gradually for the whole school-age population. A ban on diplomas for homeschooling, meaning if you decided to keep your kids safe and locked up, the only job they'll ever have afterward will be as janitors. Which will practically die off when they're replaced wholesale by the next Roomba model.

And since all this will happen without direct violence, it won't trigger your obsolete minuteman fantasy about defending yourself with your overpriced sporting rifle, from your homemade bunker. You'll whine and wail, and then you'll get bored and go watch the teevee as usual, where the few remaining pundits will rain verbal fire and brimstone on the government... from a station that's one of its major donors. The End.

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forinfren 4 points ago +4 / -0

Friday is the designated dead-end day for news the media doesn't actually want to air, but does so in order to claim equal coverage.

In this case, the fact the "whistleblowers" themselves chose it, means it's yet another nothingburger, that nobody in the mainstream will even acknowledge.

by pkvi
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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's exactly what I meant, see my other response for further clarification.

by pkvi
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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's the whole point - by important event, I mean something that will have actual consequences in the "normal" world - follow up articles, discussions, legislation etc. Hiding something in the weekend news cycle means it will be summarily ignored by the mainstream media and any other branch of authority with any real clout.

In this particular case, the fact that even the supposed whistleblowers are threatening to release info on Friday, means it's yet another "kraken" - the usual carrot random bullshit on a stick. That's why you can sleep it off, and be sure no real consequence will follow from it, like all the other grand habbenings and breaking revelations of the past two years, if not before.

by pkvi
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forinfren 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd love to be proven wrong, but normally, nobody makes a public announcement on a Friday (or the weekend, for that matter). Important events usually happen on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, since that's when the whole world has officially entered the work week, and is ready to watch and discuss them. The classic example is 9/11, but even last month, the Ukraine situation began on a Tuesday. Meanwhile, Fridays are where news pieces are sent to die, often intentionally with regard to the broadcaster's agenda.

So, whenever you hear about some massive "habbening" or some "breaking" story or grand announcement that's scheduled for a Friday or the weekend... feel free to tune it out, you won't be missing a thing.

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forinfren 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, that's how these things usually go.

Mind you, I'm pretty sure even the anti-Putin Americans nowadays believe the elections were rigged, but would never voice it publicly. Most of them simply value their professional status and social circle, over their independence of thought and freedom of expression.

And vice versa, even diehard democrats like Tulsi have had less than nice words to say about Ukraine, without automatically turning republican.

For that matter, the people skeptical of the election results, might overlap with the ones skeptical of the pro-Ukraine propaganda, for the same reason they overlap with those skeptical of the COVID narrative - because that's what skepticism means. It means not buying into whatever media hysteria is peddled at the time, without doing some basic research and checking alternative sources.

The very fact that both the Russian and the Western governments blocked any voice of opposition means that both sides probably have a lot to hide, and even when the dust clears, there probably won't be an unambiguous answer as to what was happening.

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