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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Bible is the authority for contextual definitions of certain words for Christians.

Not disputing this.

Hypotheses are faith driven.

Correct(ish). This is a part of the scientific process I mentioned earlier. A hypothesis is not science but a possible explanation that requires further testing to prove and even once proven is only valid until potentially disproven by new evidence or knowledge unavailable at that time. A hypothesis alone is not proven science and I have never heard an actual scientist make a claim like that.

and says faith will be tested daily

YES! And are you supposed to adjust your faith when faced with new data previously unavailable? Of course not right? Nor do I believe you should necessarily. I am not saying faith is a bad thing or that anything you say is incorrect and that I have any more knowledge than you about the divine. We are finite beings and cannot understand the infinite as a matter of fact, but of faith only. Which even the bible backs up I believe. (not a scholar myself) .

I am also not claiming that science is the ultimate truth or authority about anything and isn't without flaws itself. Most of science is theory anyhow. Gravity is only a theory. Science cannot explain it, but simple observation can prove its existence despite our incomplete understanding.

My issue is with a bad comparison. Not pro-science or anti-faith.

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes Atheists BELIEVE there is not a god or deity or supernatural force outside of our understanding despite the fact that no actual proof could ever prove something DOES not exist 100%. Only that there is no proof for its existence that is 100%.

I am an agnostic and the only thing I know is that I DO NOT know anything for sure and either side could potentially be correct, however I personally BELIEVE that the truth is something than man cannot even remotely comprehend if it were laid out for us in power point presentation right before our eyes as it is so far removed from the only reality we know.

Let's say you are right about the hidden messages in the bible or whatever books and somehow you have *objectively *interpreted (not possible btw) words in a book that has gone thru translations after translation and interpretation after interpretation over the thousands of years.

It was written in Aramaic, Greek, and Hebrew and even between those languages there are words that cannot be "literally" interpreted just as certain things in modern languages do not literally translate into English even today.

Revelation 17:9 I don't know who you are speaking of when you say "you people" but I have not made any assumptions nor claimed to have any wisdom you don't have.

From this point until your final sentence I do not know what I am looking at or why. I don't get why you are formatting some statements with a - and some not, and it seems you go from quoting the bible to speaking as yourself with no quotation marks distinguishing between the two making it difficult to understand what you are trying to convey.

Do you people automatically assume you contain the wisdom to explain your book when you can't even explain why at the beginning GOD's days are in reverse. And the evening and the morning were the 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th

Who are you referring to here?? I have made no assumptions nor claimed any wisdom here. And you are correct that I cannot explain the claim you are making about God's days just as I cannot name even 1 of the 7 mountains and was unaware of this requirement. I would Mt. Zion and/or Mt. Sanai could be included but fail to see the relevance to our discussion.

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +2 / -1

The dictionary is usually the authority on defining words:

strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

And even your definition fits his simple definition if you boil it down to what it is. Your certainty of a thing unseen (cannot be proven) is saying the same thing basically as he was. We cannot see god (prove existence) or else no faith would be required if he was here in front of us. Faith spirituality belief none of those can be seen, roven or quantified in any way but doesn't stop them from existing.

Curious... If faith based groups don't fit here well, then you must not get along with the scientists and atheists either, right?

I see what you are trying to do here and it doesn't work with scientists at all and you lose credibility with this argument IMO. Here's why:

Atheists: YES! This comparison works for your point. Atheists absolute BELIEF there is no god is a faith of its own and cannot be proven.

Scientists: Nope. Comparison does not work. Science uses the scientific method and it by definition ever changing and evolving as new things are discovered and old thinking disproven.

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Turtlew0rk 2 points ago +2 / -0

We are swamped also unfortunately

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Turtlew0rk 4 points ago +4 / -0

Got a source for the quote? Seems a little off to me.

EDIT: Looks like it is legit. My mistake. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/322535-i-don-t-see-much-future-for-the-americans-it-s

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

No fooling this one

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Turtlew0rk 2 points ago +2 / -0

"These phones on my desk aren't plugged into anything and the squirrels out in the Rose Garden are digital holograms! Something is way off Jack but what it is I don't know, I just know it ain't this. They put too many lights in here and changed he address to 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue. Probably on account of the Covid. What do I know? I just work here. Can I have my ice cream now?"

-Joe Biden. Probably.

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +3 / -2

He has since been released on a federal bond and is confined to house arrest.

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Turtlew0rk 2 points ago +3 / -1

Stockholm syndrome is an emotional response. It happens to some abuse and hostage victims when they have positive feelings toward an abuser or captor.

Look at them

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because we aren't talking about how Wuhan was in fact the source of the virus are we? We are criticising the intelligence community as a whole and it will blow over.

They changed the conversation. Classic Intelligence misdirection.

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Turtlew0rk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know it is. Was it worth all this? No.

And yes, itis a possibility that I could contract covid and get very ill. Possibly die even. Maybe I already had it? Who knows? I am not going to stop living my life in order to be potentially safer from a disease that may or may not make me sick if I get, extremely unlikely it would be life threatening for me.

A bad flu any year can, and has for hundreds of years, (other than 2020 of course ) knock anyone on their ass anytime.

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude I think the universe wants me to do shrooms. Lots of weird synchronicities, long story.

I did shrooms once or twice when I was 18 or 19 and had fun but not sure I really ate enough and had no idea the spiritual aspect and all that time. Doubt I would even have been open enough to entertain them anyways.

Been listening to Terence Mckenna a lot. I think I need to do it.

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Turtlew0rk 8 points ago +8 / -0

Why do I still not know a single person that has died or that knows someone first hand who died. Nobody has been able to name a person they personally new and wasn't a friend of a friend of friend?

I have been taking zero precautions for the past year and a half, traveled to LA, TN and DC sharing joints with other people, and I think I have banged at least 12 sketchy broads and still I have not gotten covid? Am I the luckiest mother fucker on earth or is something else up here?

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can't ya just unplug the AI machine? Isn't that kinda checkmate for AI?

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Turtlew0rk 1 point ago +2 / -1

Some super secret shit our unilluminated common asses wouldn't be able to even comprehend if they told us.

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